Re: Is RasoolAllah Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alehi wa Sallam A Man like Us?
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That’s true that both verses are addressing the disbelievers of Makkah Al Mukarramah.
The disbelievers of Makkah being very haughty and full of self-importance always derided the Blessed Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him). They used to taunt him for claiming to be a Messenger from Allah Almighty by saying: “You are just one of us, why does not Allah come Himself or send us angels as messengers directly to us”?
So the versed quoted before and below are confirming to the disbelievers that Allah Almighty has sent a Human (Bashar) just like them – or from them – as a messenger. And this will be a trial for them.
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Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala sent a kHAIRUL Bashar as A Prophet (and The Best of Creation)- yes, but not a 'Bashar just like them'. It is an error to think that even
Now that you have admitted it was addressed to the disbelievers. It can be proven to continue applying the 'like you' or the gross exaggeration you are making 'just like them' is not applicable. It would not even be applicable if they were Believers either
What is applicable of the 'like you' is that the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alihi wa Sallam has skin, is visible and is creation.
Whether you take from your misunderstanding of The Ayah the words 'like them' or 'just like them' both can be disproved with acceptance of 1 proof which proves to contrary. I will offer this:
*Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alihi wa Sallam is Best of Creation, not comparable to any other creation - A Physical evidence which carries the Stamp of Ahle Sunnat wal Jamaah
...and of course there is lots of other proofs for the Superiority of RasoolAllah Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alihi wa Sallam over the disbelievers addressed in the verse including his physical superiority. This all amounts to the fact that you need to stop using the understanding you have from that verse and think again
It just is not applicable in the way you have understood it
Here is my interpretations of the two Ayats
Qul [say to the disbelievers, munafiqs] I am a Man of Flesh like you [a Creation,, and can be seen, not a God, nor an Angel]. Has been revealed to me that your God is One God
Proclaim/Say to the Disbelievers! That I am Physically a human (Bashar, skin, visible) like you (like you in of what is apparent, like visible and have skin (not same Quality of skin mind you))
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And We have not sent before you any messengers but they most surely ate food and went about in the markets; and We have made some of you a trial for others; will you bear patiently? And your Lord is ever Seeing. [25:20]
And those who do not hope for Our meeting, say: Why have not angels been sent down upon us, or (why) do we not see our Lord? Now certainly they are too proud of themselves and have revolted in great revolt. 25:21]
Note: “but they most surely ate food and went about in the markets” in the above verse Allah Almighty confirms the Humanness of the Blessed Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him). Same words are used elsewhere addressing the Christians to confirm the humanness of Hz, Isa Ibn Maryum (as) and his blessed mother (ra),
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There is no argument about human(Best of), eating food, walking in the markets
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Refer the verses quoted below:
And nothing prevented people from believing when the guidance came to them except that they said: What! has Allah raised up a mortal to be a messenger? [17:94]
Say: Had there been in the earth angels walking about as settlers, We would certainly have sent down to them from the heaven an angel as a messenger. [17:95]
See again that disbelievers objected to a mortal (Human being just like them) being sent as a messenger!
In the very verse Allah Almighty says that if angles were residing on the Earth – He would have sent an angel to them.
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The disbelievers are deaf dumb and blind, they have belittled Prophets from the very first Prophet Salam Alaih
The very first mistake they make is to see Prophets as just Bashars. A theme you are repeating here
You can say that I am requesting more then a Bashar but the reply to that is that Allah Subhanhu wa Ta'ala always gave more, they just never saw it or recognized it.
Muslims see it, we see The Light, and The Miracles, The Angels We see the Miracles they missed
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A Human being as a messenger to Human beings and an angel as a messenger to angels (if they needed one).
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well Angels have been our Messengers, they appeared in front of Us in Human form, and to The Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alihi wa Sallam in other Forms
Allah Most Merciful sent Angels to us! I can see why Gibril was so Simple now, when Allah Subhanhu wa Ta'ala sent An Angel to US as A Messenger to Teach Us.
I can see what you are getting at but its incorrect again.
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Like to the like.
“Imam Ibn Katheer (rahimahullah) writes in the Tafseer of the verse (17): 94-95, 'Allah says pointing out His Kindness and Mercy towards His servants, that He sends to them Messengers of their own kind so that they will understand what he says and will be able to speak to him directly. If He were to send to humanity a Messenger from among the angels, they would not be able to deal with him face to face and learn from him, as Allah says, 'Indeed, Allah conferred a great favour on the believers when He sent among them a Messenger (Muhammad) from among themselves.' [Soorah aal-Imran (3): 164] Allah says here, 'Say, 'If there were on the earth, angels walking about in peace and security,' just as you do, 'We should certainly have sent down for them from the heaven an angel as a Messenger,' meaning 'one of their own kind. But as you are human, We have sent to you Messengers from yourselves, as a kindness and a mercy.'
Another wisdom behind the human origin of the Messengers is that all the Messengers had the same attributes as the other human beings to whom they were sent, including physical bodies which needed food, drink and rest. They had experiences similar to that of other human beings; they enjoyed health and suffered from sickness, they were exposed to trials and tribulations and they also faced death. They had no special divine qualities, power or strength. Thus, they could become a living example of the Deen they were sent with.
This also discards any possibility of anyone arguing that the nature of the Messengers was different from the humans and thus, they could effectively accomplish all the duties of the religion, which are unfeasible for the humans to carry out. Thus, the sending of humans as Messengers is a greater test
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This is not correct. Although A Khairul Bashar, Best of Creation Prophet was a Rehmat for Us, and could feel what we feel The Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alihi wa Sallam was Better then Us and Did More then Us. He did more then we could do, Psyah has already given some examples of differences on this as well, one more here:
- Thabit related that Anas said, "The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, fasted continuously* at the end of the month. Some people fasted continuously and the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, heard about that and said, "If the month had been lengthened for me, I would have fasted it continuously to the point that those who impose things excessively on themselves would leave their excessive imposition.** I am not like you**, My Lord feeds me and gives me drink."
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..."The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade continuous fasting. They said, 'You fast continuously'He said,** 'Which of you is like me?** When I sleep my Lord gives me food and drink.' "...
Both from Bukhari
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So, the disbelievers during the time of the Prophet (sallallahu alahi wa-sallam) rejected the message of Allah's Messenger (sallallahu alahi wa-sallam) because he was a human being from among themselves and their argument was, 'How could a human being be a Prophet?' for they had seen and touched the Prophet (sallallahu alahi wa-sallam) and knew that he was flesh and blood. So, they demanded an angel to be sent as a Prophet to them. Thus, asserting that an angel is more suitable for the job of Prophet-hood!!”
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This is the same line of thinking as previous.
We are free of this but those who say The Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alihi wa Sallam is just like us are not free from an attempt to lower the status (Astagfirullah) of the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alihi wa Sallam
Its undeniable that Our Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alihi wa Sallam is Best of Creation Bashar, and a Light (Nur)
Even Uthman May Allah Be Pleased With Him is referred to as Dhul - Nurain. Keeper of the Two Lights.
I cant understanding the thinking behind denying the Nur of the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi wa Alihi wa Sallam
Remember these two subjects are not one and the same
1. Impermissibility of referring to The Prophet Peace and Blessings be upon Him and His Family as just a Bashar
2. Prophet (Allah bless Him and Grant Him Peace) being Bashar and Nur (Best of Creation)