Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
You don't know anything about Prophet Muhammad(SAW) so keep your mouth close.
Did the Prophet speak this way to people he disagreed with in a discussion??
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
Did the Prophet speak this way to people he disagreed with in a discussion??
Peace Sister
We are advised to retaliate with people in a manner that is better. Compare who Hareem01 was talking to and decide which of the two is talking 'better' ...
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
We need not compare one person to another. The Gold Standard is our religion, and that's what we should compare ourselves against.
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
We need not compare one person to another. The Gold Standard is our religion, and that's what we should compare ourselves against.
And do you compare yourself with that "Gold Standard" when you use "F" and "B" word in your blog enteries and when you use rude words for others in your posts?
Besides, I haven't used any bad words in my reply to Rocking Vibes nor I'm being rude to him, if you have any problem talk to the mod of this forum instead of start fighting as usual.
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I don't really compare myself with a Gold Standard, because I also don't go around making claims about Islam as if I am the most religious person ever. I am imperfect and I admitt it repeatedly everywhere. I am not walking around pretending to be some great muslimah who spews incorrect information and misguidance on the internet because of strongly traditional cultural biases.
I may not be a perfect muslim, like yourself, but I do see Islam with glasses untainted. You see it through a traditional Pakistani-esque lens, which fogs up the entire picture. Your cultural tradition has taught you that its okay for you to degrade other people when they do not agree with you WHILE portraying yourself as a wonderwoman of Islam. I on the other hand don't play that game. I don't degrade people who disagree with me AND who haven't been rude to me. You just jumped off on this kid and they weren't even making any rude statement to you. They simply made a point. I wouldn't even bother, Hareem, to criticize you, if they had actually insulted you or hurt you. But they didn't. They just spoke their mind, and for that you gave them a nasty response. So you have to pick. Are you a true muslim mohtarma or are you a poser? I don'tt need to hear your response to that, but I think YOU need to hear that answer for YOURSELF.
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
lolz... Girls Chill!!!
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
I don't really compare myself with a Gold Standard, because I also don't go around making claims about Islam as if I am the most religious person ever. I am imperfect and I admitt it repeatedly everywhere. I am not walking around pretending to be some great muslimah who spews incorrect information and misguidance on the internet because of strongly traditional cultural biases.
I may not be a perfect muslim, like yourself, but I do see Islam with glasses untainted. You see it through a traditional Pakistani-esque lens, which fogs up the entire picture. Your cultural tradition has taught you that its okay for you to degrade other people when they do not agree with you WHILE portraying yourself as a wonderwoman of Islam. I on the other hand don't play that game. I don't degrade people who disagree with me AND who haven't been rude to me. You just jumped off on this kid and they weren't even making any rude statement to you. They simply made a point. I wouldn't even bother, Hareem, to criticize you, if they had actually insulted you or hurt you. But they didn't. They just spoke their mind, and for that you gave them a nasty response. So you have to pick. Are you a true muslim mohtarma or are you a poser? I don'tt need to hear your response to that, but I think YOU need to hear that answer for YOURSELF.
I surely can't beat you in ranting and whining, please carry on.
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I surely can't beat you in ranting and whining, please carry on.
For a minute step out of your mulanigiri shell and try embracing human values first....Just for a minute, after that you are more than welcome to turn into a mualani again. During that minute, please read the above post again, I am sure you will find more than just ranting and whining......I am just trying to help here, nothing more......and you don't have to thank me for bringing out any sort of positive changes about the way you think....Chill out, and May Allah bless you !
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
For a minute step out of your mulanigiri shell and try embracing human values first....Just for a minute, after that you are more than welcome to turn into a mualani again. During that minute, please read the above post again, I am sure you will find more than just ranting and whining......I am just trying to help here, nothing more......and you don't have to thank me for bringing out any sort of positive changes about the way you think....Chill out, and May Allah bless you !
Please learn to respect the Prophets(pbut) and do not speak if you have no knowledge(even if your intention is to just help) of it otherwise you might ended up only offending others.
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
Where in my earlier posts have I disrespected any prophets or for that matter anybody ? Please explain and what is wrong in having a discussion or expressing what one thinks. I know my limits and I will not cross it and even after that if ppl(if you call yourself people) find me offending then may Allah give them little restrain to cool themselves down. If you have to be nasty to ppl to gain knowledge then I don't want to be knowledgeble. Thank you very much.
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Please learn to respect the Prophets(pbut) and do not speak if you have no knowledge(even if your intention is to just help) of it otherwise you might ended up only offending others.
wow. this thread is nuts.
i say, points of view that differ from your own are not automatically disrespectful- not everybody in the whole world feels the same way about religion and all its aspects, as you do, nor can you expect them to. this is an open forum and everyone is welcome to comment and express their opinions- just as you are. so lets everybody calm down :)
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Where in my earlier posts have I disrespected any prophets or for that matter anybody ? Please explain and what is wrong in having a discussion or expressing what a one thinks. I know my limits and I will not cross it and even after that if ppl(if you call yourself people) find me offending then may Allah give them little restrain to cool themselves down. If you have to be nasty to ppl to gain knowledge then I don't want to be knowledgeble. Thank you very much.
Maybe Mr. prophet personally just did not like henna at all.....why imitate him and convert it into an islamic rule and make your lifes hell.....You live only once and live it to the fullest.
I will be happy to make my short life hell by following Prophet Muhammad(SAW) rather than burning in hell forever in afterlife like idolators and animal worshippers.
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wow. this thread is nuts.
i say, points of view that differ from your own are not automatically disrespectful- not everybody in the whole world feels the same way about religion and all its aspects, as you do, nor can you expect them to. this is an open forum and everyone is welcome to comment and express their opinions- just as you are. so lets everybody calm down :)
Rocking Vibes is not disagreeing with my point of view, he is implying his own rules to Islam without any knowledge about Islam, ask him why doesn't he want muslims to follow their Prophet.
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For everyone, Larai larai muaf karo Allah ka ghar saaf karo.
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I will be happy to make my short life hell by following Prophet Muhammad(SAW) rather than burning in hell forever in afterlife like idolators and animal worshippers.
Sweet......Now you are talking, this post is a lot more polite than your earlier posts(Like asking ppl to shut up for no reason). I respect your desires about leading your short life and your immense respect for ppl of other religion, now everybody reading this post can paint a clearer picture in their minds and can associate it with your name. Peace out !
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Sweet......Now you are talking, this post is a lot more polite than your earlier posts(Like asking ppl to shut up for no reason). I respect your desires about leading your short life and your immense respect for ppl of other religion, now everybody reading this post can paint a clearer picture in their minds and can associate it with your name. Peace out !
I don't care what people think of me if it means I have to please Allah, and I hope you won't write the same thing again where you said that by following the Prophet(SAW) we're making our lives hell, you should be careful next time when you talk about others religion.
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Rocking Vibes is not disagreeing with my point of view, he is implying his own rules to Islam without any knowledge about Islam, ask him why doesn't he want muslims to follow their Prophet.
There are many ppl in this thread who feel that they shd follow the Quran word to word to be a good muslim, some additionally want to follow the hadiths word to word, some believe they should imitate the prophets actions to be a good muslim.....some grow beard for the sake of religion and some don't, some wear fancy clothes and some wear hijab. I am sure you have good muslim friends who may or may not pray five times a day......So the point what I was trying to bring out is.........Can't there be a faintest possibility of Prohet's personal choice...Maybe he did not like henna personally so why should it be banned in Islam when it's not even mentioned in Quran. Correct me if I am wrong, again why imitate his actions and make new Islamic rules ? And again where am I disrespecting the prohet here when posting my views which are shared by many good muslims?
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I don't care what people think of me if it means I have to please Allah, and I hope you won't write the same thing again where you said that by following the Prophet(SAW) we're making our lives hell, you should be careful next time when you talk about others religion.
you are freaking me out now, your first line in this post unfortunately sounds exactly like how ppl think before blowing themselves up....May Allah guide you to the right path.
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I don't see this as an insult to the Prophet (SAW). Following the Prophet(SAW) is correct but "imitating" may or may not be correct. Afterall the Talibans claimed to do the same thing and all they did was to oppress women and kill fellow Muslims.
Some people think that their duty as a Muslim is "proved" by compelling their women look like walking tents or like that cab driver in Toronto who killed his daughter because she removed her hijaab.
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
first and foremost is haququl-ibad...i dont really think that adopting such 'LarRaka' attitude towards people (no matter who they are or their beliefs) is beneficial as far as 'dozakh ki aag se bachna' is concerned.
'holier than thou' attitude is very disrespectful itself, and is infact disliked by Allah and his Prophet (and Prophets)
Allah likes down to earth-ness, and humbleness...which our 'ulma' .....after reading a few books on Islam...unfortunately loses......by become bitter, hateful, and patronizing...not sure why or where this 'akRu-ness' comes from...but it repels everyone around them...