Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
Shay, to these guys we women are pieces of crap and celebrating anything we find beautiful is just an insult to their manhood - somehow they confuse this degenerated pathetic attitude with Islam, and voila, you get a list as long as Santa Clause's Naughty-Nice list on what is and isn't Biddah and Haraam. Fools are ridiculous. The friggin keys they type on are biddah, but they still type away.
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
most mehndis I have been 2 are woman only, with the only males being littel boys from the family.
If its a mixed mehfil its all abt ure intention, at 1 of my cuzns mehndi it was mixd with cuzns and male friends, every1 danced, at no point was i trying to be vulgar or anything of the sort, if its sum1's intention to turn a mixed mehndi into a mini disco then thts wht is wrong
As far as I c it , its abt celeberating with all the friends and family at a joyous occasion
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
Thank you!!- you summarized exactly what I was thinking.
I think I know why rasm e hina might be considered 'HARAM' here- women might get those awful diseases because "when a man looks at a woman with hungry desires, certain waves emit from his eyes with certain frequency and wavelength that can cause damage to her skin and body, which can not be seen by naked eye."
Shay, to these guys we women are pieces of crap and celebrating anything we find beautiful is just an insult to their manhood - somehow they confuse this degenerated pathetic attitude with Islam, and voila, you get a list as long as Santa Clause's Naughty-Nice list on what is and isn't Biddah and Haraam. Fools are ridiculous. The friggin keys they type on are biddah, but they still type away.
Re: Is “Rasam-e-Hina” allowed in Islam ?
Source: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=3&ID=3661&CATE=418
Question:
What is the ruling of men applying henna to their hands, hair, and beard?
Answer:
The relied-upon position in our school is that it is forbidden for a man to apply henna to his hands or feet unless there is a medical need for doing so. This is because dyeing these [h: parts of the body with henna] comprises imitating women. Imam al-Nawawi said in al-Majmu’: “Among the proofs of its prohibition are his (Allah bless him and give him peace) saying in a rigorously authenticated hadith, “Allah has cursed men who imitate women.” The rigorously authenticated hadith related via Anas who said that “The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) forbade men from applying saffron.” (transmitted by Bukhari and Muslim) is also proof [h: of its prohibition, since] that [h: prohibition] was only because of its colour, not its smell, for pleasant smells are recommended for men. Henna is just like saffron in this regard.”
It is permissible for men to apply henna to the hair of their head or beard. In fact, this is recommended in order to conceal white hair. Imam al-Nawawi said in al-Majmu’: “It is sunna to dye white hair with something yellow or red. Our [h: Shafi’i] companions have concurred on this. Among those who have explicitly stated this are al-Saymari, al-Baghawi, and others because of well-known rigorously authenticated hadiths in this regard. Among them is the hadith of Abu Hurayra (Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, “Verily, the Jews and Christians don’t dye, so be different from them.” (narrated by Bukhari and Muslim).”
However, the colour black is prohibited. al-Imam Nawawi said: "The proof of its prohibition is the hadith of Jabir (Allah be pleased with him), who said, “Abu Quhafa, the father of Abu Bakr, was brought on the day of the conquest of Makkah, and his head and beard were white like the thaghama. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, “Change this, and avoid black.”” (narrated by Muslim in his Sahih) Thaghama is a plant that has white fruit. Then [h: al-Nawawi] said, “There is no difference between men and women concerning the prohibition of dyeing [h: their hair] black.”
(Translated by Sidi Hamza Karamali)
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
Applying mehndi is the Sunnah of the Prophet (PBUH). I have read on various websites about how Huzoor PBUH used to apply it on his pinky finger. I don't understand how that makes it 'UNLAWFUL'.
I think you are mistaken. Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and the Companions did apply Henna on their heads not on their hands.
These are two ahadith from Sunan Abi Dawud:
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Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: When Hind, daughter of Utbah, said: Prophet of Allah, accept my allegiance, he replied; I shall not accept your allegiance till you make a difference to the palms of your hands; for they look like the paws of a beast of prey.
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Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: A woman made a sign from behind a curtain to indicate that she had a letter for the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him). The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) closed his hand, saying: I do not know this is a man's or a woman's hand. She said: No, a woman. He said: If you were a woman, you would make a difference to your nails, meaning with henna.
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No, I am not mistaken. Prophet Muhammad PBUH did apply henna to his small finger besides his head also. Not only I have heard this from numerous people including grandparents but also because there was a discussion last ICNA with Imam Zaid Shakir.
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what about segregated gathering of this type ...one for men another for women on seperate days that cud be a solution acceptable to both
although personally i dont see why some people are so hyped up about marriage ....that they need to have fun
also even this solution will not solve the problem of israaf
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No, I am not mistaken. Prophet Muhammad PBUH did apply henna to his small finger besides his head also. Not only I have heard this from numerous people including grandparents but also because there was a discussion last ICNA with Imam Zaid Shakir.
Did Imam Zaid Shakir make the use of henna on men's hands/palms permissible?
Can you provide the context he was talking about henna on Prophet(SAW)'s finger, may be Prophet(SAW) did it out of necessity.
This is the ruling of Imam Shafi on applying henna on men's hands and I'm sure Imam Zaid Shakir will agree with it as he's follower of shafi school of thought.
As for dyeing the hands and legs with henna for men, Imam ash-Shafi`i views that this is forbidden unless there is a medical necessity for using it, as Islam forbids men from copying women. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, “Allah has cursed men who copy women as well as women who copy men.”
(from Islamonline)
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
[quote="hareem01"]
Did Imam Zaid Shakir make the use of henna on men's hands/palms permissible?/quote]
^And I implied this where?
Did I say Prophet PBUH applied henna on his HANDS? He applied a tiny amount on his pinky finger. You can go with what you have read or believe.. I will go with what I have heard from people and Imam Shakir because I feel that an Imam of his caliber knows what he is saying, thank you.
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Maybe Mr. prophet personally just did not like henna at all.....why imitate him and convert it into an islamic rule and make your lifes hell.....You live only once and live it to the fullest.
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
^And I implied this where?
Did I say Prophet PBUH applied henna on his HANDS? He applied a tiny amount on his pinky finger. You can go with what you have read or believe.. I will go with what I have heard from people and Imam Shakir because I feel that an Imam of his caliber knows what he is saying, thank you.
So you agree that men aren't allowed to apply henna on their hands/palms?
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
Maybe Mr. prophet personally just did not like henna at all.....why imitate him and convert it into an islamic rule and make your lifes hell.....You live only once and live it to the fullest.
You don't know anything about Prophet Muhammad(SAW) so keep your mouth close.
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Did I disagree with it somewhere
Why do you keep asking me about the hand again and again when I have been talking about Prophet’s (PBUH) finger since my first post. Please read carefully.
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Your post wasn’t clear enough…
You wrote this :
In answer to this:
*It is unlawful for a man to use henna on his hands because it is resemblance to women.
*
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
Well if Prophet SAW used to apply it on his pinky then I don't see a reason why men can't. Hand/palm is another issue- I never even mentioned those anywhere in my posts. Thanks.
Your post wasn't clear enough....
You wrote this :
In answer to this:
It is unlawful for a man to use henna on his hands because it is resemblance to women.
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
Well if Prophet SAW used to apply it on his pinky then I don't see a reason why men can't. Hand/palm is another issue- I never even mentioned those anywhere in my posts. Thanks.
Well, you should have.
Anyway, there must have been a reason for Prophet(SAW) to apply henna on his little finger, I'm interested to hear the hadith and the context now.
And going back to the topic, I've seen on weddings men(groom) apply henna on their hands only in villages but in cities they don't, they use a paan leaf or a currency note and then women apply henna on that leaf or note.
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Ok so what I’m getting out of this thread and from my own knowledge is that the use of the henna itself is permissible however the ritualistic/traditional aspect of it is not. Correct?
ok good 
one less stressful event and more money saved for something more meaningful 
Re: Is "Rasam-e-Hina" allowed in Islam ?
Well, you should have.
Anyway, there must have been a reason for Prophet(SAW) to apply henna on his little finger, I'm interested to hear the hadith and the context now.
And going back to the topic, I've seen on weddings men(groom) apply henna on their hands only in villages but in cities they don't, they use a paan leaf or a currency note and then women apply henna on that leaf or note.
somethings dont HAVE to have a reason do they?
and yea I too have seen henna being applied on a leaf not directly on the mans palm...in fact in my family at least I have never seen it applied directly on a man's palm.
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I don't think so. Next time, read what I am talking about specifically.. and not what isn't visible anywhere in my posts.
*Well, you should have. *
Anyway, there must have been a reason for Prophet(SAW) to apply henna on his little finger, I'm interested to hear the hadith and the context now.
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somethings dont HAVE to have a reason do they?
and yea I too have seen henna being applied on a leaf not directly on the mans palm...in fact in my family at least I have never seen it applied directly on a man's palm.
exactly!!!!