Please qualify your statement! You say music is from Allah, then what is it that you are trying to say or is it an argument that you are trying to win?
Please focus and gauge the truth and attempt to understand what is it that people are trying to communicate to you.
Music as a culture is most definitely frowned upon by the righteous Muslims in history, this fact cannot be disputed. If people want to engage in things that are frowned upon then it is up to them, but to promote these things in society should and has been shunned in those times when Islamic principles were considered higher than personal ones.
To answer your insinuation more directly .... you may indeed be correct that all things come from Allah, but quite obviously you fail to realise that not all things are legislated or preferred by Allah for us to indulge in.
^yes....like Allah has created many animals but we are only allowed to eat the meat of some of them.......and in some religions people can't even eat the meat.
Music is now being compared to eating human flesh. I have heard it all.
I really feel sad for those who will never allow themselves to enjoy music, it is one of the most enjoyable (and innocent) pleasures we can experience while on earth. But I am sure there is beautiful music in heaven as well.
Peace Seminole
Music is not being compared to the eating of human flesh rather what is being compared is the nature of their permissibility based on the evidence in the hadith by explicit statement. We can see that they both do not have explicits prohibiting them, but we can also see that by the description of the culture and norms of Islam there is plenty of implicit evidence prohibiting music. Furthermore, to contextualise this basis, people may try to argue that music was not part of Arab culture and it was in other areas, but evidence is contrary to that, i.e. Makkans pre-Islamic were duped in music, but this was abolished and intentionally so, however, statements of it's prohibition seem not have been given an explicit nature and this may be due to the hikmah (wisdom) of these times.
Now I may listen to music unintentionally or not flee from it when it is played, or even smile when someone else dances to it, I may even make soundbytes for presentations, but I still think that music should be kept low profile due to the way our beloved fathers of Islam reacted to it.
There is music in nature. That is not from ourselves. Besides it's simplistic to say every good comes Allah and every bad from ourselves. What about cancer, plague, drought, retardation and brain tumors? Who are they from?
I hope to be there to see the look of awe on the faces of those who are anti-music who make it to heaven and are greeted with the glorious sounds of beautiful music.
Peace Seminole
Here is why music is not a good thing. It bends emotion, to a false state of being, it enhances what people are feeling, but this is an artificial state of feeling. It is found generally where things like intoxicants are found, it is intoxicating itself in that it releases endorphins which are natural but these create imbalances in mental state and people tend to do things that they would otherwise not usually do, such as loss of inhibitions similar to alcohol music provides the person the impetus to act without fully evaluating cause and effect, by overriding the faculty of reason. Music is also elite and seperates communities and status and people. Music itself provides no benefit in the material sense and people pay for it in the way of entertainment. Entertainment is a luxury and luxry according to Sun Zsu said, that if we get too much of a luxury then it will makes us lazy and arrogant.
So by subjecting oursleves to something Allah has created but has not preferred for us then we are causing the harm to come upon us also, this what Hareem01 means by her statement.
Allah (SWT) will test us with happiness and hardship for us to be thankful and patient but He will also give justice to those who have left this world in the state of injustice, but as far as making choices is concerned Allah (SWT) has given us the choice to seek His Guidance and Protection and quite appropriately given us the choice not to, but to seek our pleasure in music and hence choose to be subjected to more fitna' and ultimately more misguidance.
^yes....like Allah has created many animals but we are only allowed to eat the meat of some of them.......and in some religions people can't even eat the meat.
why killing of animal and eating their meat is allowed? dont they feel pain when their throats are slit.
how it feels when a mother goat is slaughtered infront of his kid?
Some people here are oozing of typical desi-ness by acting like they're the national Saudi mufti just to find a piece of evidence (regardless how authentic) to suit to their likes; I will just say what I know. It is very obvious that any kind of music that promotes a negative message (rap and metal fans, caution) is not allowed. Others say that any kind of music is not allowed, and a commonly quoted hadith is:
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Sayyiduna Abu Malik al-Ash’ari (Allah be pleased with him) reports that he heard the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) say: “There will appear people in my Ummah, who will hold adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments to be lawful” (Sahih al-Bukhari)
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Take notice of the "and" in there, it might have some importance; musical instruments that are used in any of these combinations are haram. And let me bring up some practical examples: there's almost always music playing in bars, silky dresses are the most popular with dancers (who bare body), and no brothel is complete without music. And please make sure that the transmission chain of any hadiths posted in here is strong and authentic.
Another case is where music becomes an addiction, and drives you away from priorities (religion included). I know of such a case in Dubai, where a young man was driving his car and had music playing (he was very likely an addict), and had a horrible accident. The police deemed his condition to be severe and asked him to say the shahadah; instead, swear words and song lyrics came out of his mouth, that was scary. Unlike many others here, I won't conclude whether music is actually allowed or not, although it is always best to stay away from what is suspicious.
belly dancing is very common in arab countries....why is this not haram?
Because we don't take our criteria of right and wrong from ' arab countries '...we take this criteria from Quran and Sunnah.
There is not a single hadith or verse which forbids the eating of human flesh.
No, but there are verse(s) which say something along the lines of: any flesh-eating species is forbidden. That includes humans, because humans are omnivores. Omnivores and carnivores are forbidden.
^yes....like Allah has created many animals but we are only allowed to eat the meat of some of them.......and in some religions people can't even eat the meat.
Only some herbivores!
Name me a carnivore or an omnivore which is permissible for consumption, in Islam.
not all herbivored are halal either. the criteria of halal and haram is not something we can understand. I mean we can eat cow but not horse. I dont think anybody can say i know why Allah declared cow halal and horse haram. or can they
theres a restaurant in kenya called carnivore where they serve all kinds of big game meat in their buffet. i tried bites of zebra, giraffe, deer , antelope, rhino and crocodile. It was quite interesting. Only deer and antelope was good the rest tasted quite horrible.
sorry not really relevant to the conversation but all the talk about herbivores and carnivores etc reminded me of that.
Yes, thats what i want to say…there is not a single verse or hadith say that eating human flesh is haram but there is a criteria for haram and halal…similarly there is not a verse or hadith that clearly says that music is haram but there is a criteria(based on other related ahadith) for declaring music haram or makruh.
