You called that little game? LOL. Put yourself in Musharraf’s position and feel that pressure. I bet if we had politicians incharge, their pants would have been wet.
Zaavia,
You have been listenin’ too much American Biased Media. Even in your home town, people are angry @ U.S Policy, not American people. Didn’t you see that on the streets of Sydney?
Iraq’s Army is less than it had in 91 war. You can’t count their Air-Force. Without, Army and Air Defence, how come you say Afghanistan isn’t Iraq? Not precisely but somewhat.
All Saddam gotta do is to put his people against American Troops, which he will does 'cause he ain’t got any choice.
Only if American troops are capable of fighting on the streets of Baghdad without civilian casualties, which I doubt. Couple of days back Ted Koppal(Nightline Anchor) had program how much Iraqi Civilian casaulities were back in 91, Gulf War. And it was enormous. Reference HRW.
Zaavia, are you okay? I firmly believe it was Indian Army who backed down after 10 months deploying at border.
BJP came in power with only one agenda i.e declaring Pakistan a Terrorist State since 97, which they have failed God knows how many times. You know why? Because, India itself, uses Terrorism against Minorities, not to mention.
Pakistan doesn’t even on the list of the State Department.
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You called that little game? LOL. Put yourself in Musharraf's position and felt that pressure. I bet if we had politicians incharge, their pants would have been wet.
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Why is it that all of the pressure is on Musharraf? When India is following whatever it wants. The pressure will make Musharraf do wonders for the Americans in the future, and they know it.
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Zaavia,
You have been listenin' too much American Biased Media. Even in your home town, people are angry @ U.S Policy, not American people. Didn't you see that on the streets of Sydney?
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Darn, I am back home! I guess I didnt change Sydney from my profile. As far as listening to the American media is concerned, I get that notion from your posts.
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Only if American troops are capable of fighting on the streets of Baghdad without civilian casualties, which I doubt. Couple of days back Ted Koppal(Nightline Anchor) had program how much Iraqi Civilian casaulities were back in 91, Gulf War. And it was enormous. Reference HRW
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They always find people from the countries where they fight to carry on their battles. They dont need to fight in Baghdad's streets.
Malik73, I dont think Musharraf can protect our national or nuclear assets. And I dont consider him to be mentally tough otherwise he wouldnt have been saying that, it would have been better off if Pakistan were not member of the UNSC. That coming from the head of state of the only Islamic nuclear state, pathetic. When the Americans ask him to disarm, he will do that too, in Pakistan's national interest.
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i dont think that any country will give up its nuclear weapons once it has acquired them. and america's calls for disarmament of pakistan will have lesser impact with the passage of time. all countries will accept pakistan as a nuclear weapon state with the passage of time.
but for this musharraf has to stop threatning the use of nuclear weapons against india. if the nuclear weapons remain out of the international spotlight for a sufficient amout of time, they will be forgotten.
Are you refering to same Nawaz who ordered a Pakistani plane with its COAS and 200 civilians with 10 minutes fuel to hell… Is this the same Nawaz who attacked the apex court… I think not coz this ganja who destroyed the economy and did other zillion holy deeds should be hanged by his balls along with other leaders.
Here read this thread for a laugh we will go in details about Ganja and cronies kartoots latter.
Abdali, thats what Musharraf has been telling us. When ever a plane flies, it always has enough fuel to take the passengers back from the destination it started. I personally dont buy his story. If it were so credible why hasent any passenger in the plane complained of what Musharraf is saying. Musharraf needed some thing to prove his innocence, and that he tried by that cooked up story. The politicians of Pakistan might be corrupt, but the army which spends more than 80 % of the budget hasent ever been evaluated, to find the kickbacks in them. What about the present government, that has all the corrupt ministers of the then Nawaz League and People’s Party?
i dont think that any country will give up its nuclear weapons once it has acquired them. and america's calls for disarmament of pakistan will have lesser impact with the passage of time. all countries will accept pakistan as a nuclear weapon state with the passage of time.
Munna
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They already have accepted the fact that India/Pak are de-facto nuclear powers. In case of Pak they already have tried from sanctions to threats and have failed. Paks bare bone nuclear program and industry has progressed to self sufficent industrial base. Its now almost 30 year old setup and has matured to a healthy extend.
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Why is it that all of the pressure is on Musharraf?
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Simple! He's a Pakistan's leader. Can you feel that pressure? It's easy to say, my dear, difficult to feel.
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When India is following whatever it wants.
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Crying Out Loud. Sure
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The pressure will make Musharraf do wonders for the Americans in the future, and they know it.
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Uff, abay meray bhai, all pressure scenerio I just mentioned and you still don't get it. Fine. It's not what you know. It's what you can proof. Did you find my scenerios wrong? Please say so rather than beatin' around the bush.
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They always find people from the countries where they fight to carry on their battles. They dont need to fight in Baghdad's streets.
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Zaavia chanda, do you even know what 91 Gulf War was about? Liberation of Kuwait from Iraq, okay. In 91, it was about keeping out Iraqis from Kuwait. This time, U.S forces has to go into Iraq. You understand what am sayin'?
You can have world class technologies to know whereabouts(geography, ahem) but when real time comes, it becomes harder.
i dont think that any country will give up its nuclear weapons once it has acquired them. and america's calls for disarmament of pakistan will have lesser impact with the passage of time. all countries will accept pakistan as a nuclear weapon state with the passage of time.
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A good summarisation. But only one or two supporters of the "courageous" Sharif family would disagree. :)
Zaavia chanda, do you even know what 91 Gulf War was about? Liberation of Kuwait from Iraq, okay. In 91, it was about keeping out Iraqis from Kuwait. This time, U.S forces has to go into Iraq. You understand what am sayin'?
You can have world class technologies to know whereabouts(geography, ahem) but when real time comes, it becomes harder.
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Good factual point. Do you know who was PM of Pakistan when Pakistan sent troops to aid the American effort in 1990/91?
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Abdali, thats what Musharraf has been telling us. When ever a plane flies, it always has enough fuel to take the passengers back from the destination it started. I personally dont buy his story. If it were so credible why hasent any passenger in the plane complained of what Musharraf is saying. Musharraf needed some thing to prove his innocence, and that he tried by that cooked up story. The politicians of Pakistan might be corrupt, but the army which spends more than 80 % of the budget hasent ever been evaluated, to find the kickbacks in them. What about the present government, that has all the corrupt ministers of the then Nawaz League and People's Party?
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First of all army don't suck up 80 percent of the budget. This is the story from the kinds of ganja and Budnazar for obvious reasons. And second the plane incident was reported around the world and I myself heard the conversation between the control tower and the pilot and musharraf..... May be it was Musharraf who also send gundas to attack the apex court and forced a supreme court judge out.
P.S: You don't know about the plane and fuel I do coz I worked for American Airlines. Planes do not carry enough fuel for round trip nor there is any such rule.
Listen up, guys! what our courageous leader is saying! Even though Syria which is also a UNSC member, and doesnt have nuclear weapons is sure what it will vote for.
Musharraf’s dilemma on Iraq war
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WASHINGTON, March 6: President Pervez Musharraf confessed on Thursday he wished his country had not been elected to the UN Security Council, as he wrestles with a dilemma of how to vote on war with Iraq. **
Zaavia Ji nuclear weapons are not every thing if that was the case N. Korea would be glowing green by now. Yes the poor fella is in a tight spot thanks to our great politicians who sold Pak for $38B… It won’t take long for uncle sam to drive us back to $400 million forex. Beggers cannot be chosers.
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Even though Syria which is also a UNSC member, and doesnt have nuclear weapons is sure what it will vote for.
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Do you know how Syria voted in the first UN Resolution (1441)? Go check...:)
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Malik I am talking about now!
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And I am talking abouts facts. What did Syria vote in the first UN Resolution even though it said all along it was against it? Do you know the answer...? :)
Zaavia, are you okay? I firmly believe it was Indian Army who backed down after 10 months deploying at border.
Yes he went for an operation in Dec 2000 after he fled Pakistan for the royal comforts of Saudi. Man what courage. 
Even though Syria which is also a UNSC member, and doesnt have nuclear weapons is sure what it will vote for.