Is pakistan better for studies for one shd go Abraod!

i am currently donig BSC(hons) in Computing from APIIT (asia pacific Institute of Information technology ) Lahore . APIIT is a Malysian Franchise. after completing we will get Degree from Stafforshire University England.Now i want to go abroad and study … theek hai…

Now can any one help me in this regard i want to know what is the process how to apply…etc etc

help me please


Yeh Dosti hum nahi Toray Gay, toray gay daam majar tera saath na choray gay!
JAAN par bhi Khalein gay , teray liye lein lein gay, saab say dushmani !
Yeh dosti …

what do you want to study IT? Do you want to study for another degree?

Be specific, then I can give you my opinion.

Ya! i want to study IT !!!!


Yeh Dosti hum nahi Toray Gay, toray gay daam magar tera saath na choray gay!
JAAN par bhi Khalein gay , teray liye lein lein gay, saab say dushmani !
Yeh dosti .....

Pakistan is better.

IT and business education has some very excellent world class outlets in Pakistan. They charge exorbitant fees, but then again, youd be paying that if you go abroad anyway. So why not study at home, and make the best of it.

10-15 years ago, it wasnt true, but over the past few years, things have changed.

I think no other country is better then America for studies once u got teh degree from here then you have a value all over the world get it ha


In Pakistan, if youre not in the following tech colleges, than you might be in trouble...

  1. NUST
  2. GIKi
  3. LUMS
  4. NED

FAST to some extent...

Well, there are three reasons to educate urself, namely

1) To get a good job.
2) To learn.
3) Amibition to know the subject.

What is ur reason?

If u want to find a good job then ... u need just a label .. then I would suggest .. pay the price of designer label & get education in some Western University.

If u want to learn .. then u can learn in any University regarless of what & where. Western Universities might have a little bit better technology but they teach commecially unlike Pakistani institutions.

If u have ambition to educate urself to the roots of the subject u like then, u need more than learning ... & u dont need Academic Education for that but that is something called self study & knowledge gained by practice.

Good Luck.

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“FAST to some extent…”

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Technically most strong ppl of Pakistan are from FAST. and you are not recognizing it as a good university of Pakistan.

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aap ne ek proud FASTian ka dil tore diya.

Relax man… I never said FAST was bad… However, its still lacks many things… Firstly, look at GIKi and NUST… They are offerring a wide range of disciplines. Look at Time/CNNs rankings (link is given below)for Asia… You will see that NUST is at no. 20 and GIKI at no. 23… I agree that programmers from FAST are pretty good, but trust me, programming in not the only thing a good computer scientist should have… However I am sure they will improve alot in the time to come and get better are much more experienced teachers…
http://www.pathfinder.com/asiaweek/features/universities2000/scitech/sci.overall.html

LUMS AND GIKI... these are the top class ones.

FAST etc. are second class colleges come after them.

And I would definitely prefer a Western University over something in Pakistan, just for the sake of a better job and higher pay.


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...so get what you like and like what you have.

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Originally posted by pakistan99:
**LUMS AND GIKI... these are the top class ones.

FAST etc. are second class colleges come after them.

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ok you say "FAST" is fine, what do you mean by that "etc"?

anyway, icesaadi! if you are ambitious and hard working, then institute doesn't matter at all.

I've seen a guy graduating from Royal Institute of Computer Science (The one on Jail Road with round about two class rooms) getting job in align tech.

youre right sherjeel... if youre a good student, then the instituition doesnt matter, and ive seen the hard working students at fast, nust, giki etc, Inshallah Allah will reward them with very good futures...

Giki has lost out on ratings to NUST in the last two or three years... They used to be Asias no.2 at one time, but now they are at 23 and nust is at 20th...

I've seen GIKIans dying to transfer credits to FAST in the past few months. But unfortunately FAST doesn't allow transfer of credits (except once when a student of MIT came here and studied one semester).

GIKI has everything but faculty. They've got the best labs, best resources, everything except good faculty. As last resort they started hiring fired faculty of FAST.

GIKI has always suffered faculty crises. Thats the major reason GIKI has lost its ranking.

HEY , THANKX PEOPLE FOR REPLING !!
CAN ANY NE TELL ME HOW TO APPLY FOR STUDENTS LOAN ,LIKE IF THEY GIVE ME LOAN FOR 1 YEAR AND I GE T INTO A UNIVERSITY IN CANADA OR AMERICA ! AND AFTER ONE YEAR I EARN MY SELF AND PAY FOR THE UNIVERSITY AFTER COMPLETING MY GRADUATION , I PAY THE LOAN.. BACK


Yeh Dosti hum nahi Toray Gay, toray gay daam magar tera saath na choray gay!
JAAN par bhi Khalein gay , teray liye lein lein gay, saab say dushmani !
Yeh dosti .....

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Originally posted by icesaadi:
**HEY , THANKX PEOPLE FOR REPLING !!
CAN ANY NE TELL ME HOW TO APPLY FOR STUDENTS LOAN ,LIKE IF THEY GIVE ME LOAN FOR 1 YEAR AND I GE T INTO A UNIVERSITY IN CANADA OR AMERICA ! AND AFTER ONE YEAR I EARN MY SELF AND PAY FOR THE UNIVERSITY AFTER COMPLETING MY GRADUATION , I PAY THE LOAN.. BACK

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You didnt tell us if you are a Pakistani or US citizen... If you answer some questions, I will help you out...

Do you have anyone in the US (a US resident) that can be your co-signiee, in other words provide a gaurantee?

Will you be willing to pay back the tuition fee with interest in installments?

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Originally posted by sharjeel:
**I've seen GIKIans dying to transfer credits to FAST in the past few months. But unfortunately FAST doesn't allow transfer of credits (except once when a student of MIT came here and studied one semester).

GIKI has everything but faculty. They've got the best labs, best resources, everything except good faculty. As last resort they started hiring fired faculty of FAST.

GIKI has always suffered faculty crises. Thats the major reason GIKI has lost its ranking.**
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Well, GIKi offers mechanical engineering, computer engineering, electronics engineering, metallurgy, engineering sciences etc, how can these students transfer to FAST which offers just one discipline... One thing is for sure, the atmosphere in FAST is not like a university, but in GIKi it is...

Please help me in this regard i am a Paki and want to go aborad for the sake of Better job and living!

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Originally posted by icesaadi:
**i am currently donig BSC(hons) in Computing from APIIT (asia pacific Institute of Information technology ) Lahore . APIIT is a Malysian Franchise. after completing we will get Degree from Stafforshire University England.Now i want to go abroad and study ... theek hai...

Now can any one help me in this regard i want to know what is the process how to apply...etc etc

help me please

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What is this myth that a better life standard can ONLY be achieved by living abroad. I guess you do not know what it means to “live abroad”.

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