i am not asking whether secularism or sharia law is more appropriate for the country
my understanding of sharia law is that in order for a country to be called an Islamic state it has to be totally and completely ruled by sharia law. I don’t see pakistan nor afghanistan as being that.
i did do a search of old threads and most were related to which of the two types of governing styles are better for the country, which is not what i’m asking.
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
First, figure out the definition of a "republic" ..
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
is it islamic though?
don't be rude with me plz
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
Well I can't now with your second disclaimer, now can I?
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
Islamic republic is a middle path between absolute Shariah based govt and a republic, at least by definition.
Pakistan is neither republic nor Islamic, they should change the name to banana republic of Pakistan
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
Hey 
I think it was created to be an Islamic Republic and whilst that seems to be in paper only these days we must not let that go… It’s not like we are the only country in the World thats having a hard time either and people should not give up the dream. 
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
In name, and is required to be through the constitution. The clause about no law contradicting Islamic law is there. Ergo, Islamic Repblic on paper.
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Besides America is not exactly going in par with its own declarations of rights the early American revolutionaries would be sick if they saw the Imperialistic thug state that it’s become today… 
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
Islamic republic is a middle path between absolute Shariah based govt and a republic, at least by definition.
Pakistan is neither republic nor Islamic, they should change the name to banana republic of Pakistan
Agreed
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
It is an Islamic Republic - right now we are just busy settling the issue ' to adopt whose Islam' .... :)
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
Bingo
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
that was just in case you’re in a bad mood, some of you in WA and PA can get pretty down and dirty with the responses when discussing issues and just dis and cuss…i ain’t afraid:vivo:
meaning what…?
hey i just wanted to make sure i got it right about a country only being called islamic when complete sharia law is enforced. sometimes muslims themselves get ‘muslim majority’ and ‘islamic state’ mixed up
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
Muslims will never have a complete Islamic state because they can't take the risk of seeing half the nation with ONLY ONE hand...they want something on the lines of what India has...a Muslim 'Personal Law' whereby they opt the law that suits them in order to maximize their benefits. They routinely switch back and forth between Muslim Personal Law Courts and the Civil Courts whichever suits them more.
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
Not yet Rules are not implemented yet
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
hey i just wanted to make sure i got it right about a country only being called islamic when complete sharia law is enforced. sometimes muslims themselves get 'muslim majority' and 'islamic state' mixed up
No, a country is Islamic as per a particular ideological regime. It may be marxist influenced, it may be influenced by local political customs and norms. There is no one well defined notion of Islamic state that is shared across the world, contrary to what many think.
Muslim majority is typically used for those states that are avowedly against Islam in politics, and that probably means Kemalist Turkey, Baathist republics, etc. Even Egypt did not fit that bill, even though it fell far short of an Islamic state as per Iran, Saudi, etc. But it was probably much closer to Pakistan, in reality.
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
Pakistan by prevailing constitution does claim to be an Islamic Republic. But:
1) the fiefdom / zamindari culture (that it shares with neighbor India) negates some aspects of being a Republic. However it is more of a Republic than not (in the sense most decisions are taken within a framework of constitution and law - except when being under a dictatorship; the head of and members of the government are elected and there is separation of executive from judiciary...oh, and there is no classical monarch.
2) the ongoing atmosphere of violence gives raise to the terrorists saying it is not Islamic because government hasn't implemented Sharia and the victims saying it is not Islamic because the Islam does not allow such terrorist tactics.
So I can only conclude it is a very messy Islamic republic ....just like India being a messy democratic Republic of India!
My personal opinion is that it is impossible for any country to be Islamic because there are 1) too many Islams, 2) too many points in Islam (as a political system) that are incompatible with contemporary human expectations 3) it has limitations around rules of commerce that has been invalid for a long time now. Therefore I think instead of the 'way of life' thing it was, we see it surely moving towards becoming a religious choice for its followers.
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
is this written in sarcasm? are you serious? i know india has personal laws for all the citizens based on their religion but what did you mean by the blue part.
An Islamic state is a state that has adopted Islam, specifically Sharia, as its foundations for political institutions, or laws, exclusively, and has implemented the islamic ruling system khilafah (arabic خلافة)
i always thought pakistan’s judicia/legal system was based on the english system, am i wrong?
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
No, It's a Hindu state. Sheesh...........
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
Muslims will never have a complete Islamic state because they can't take the risk of seeing **half the nation with ONLY ONE hand...they want something on the lines of what India has...a Muslim 'Personal Law' whereby they opt the law that suits them in order to maximize their benefits. They routinely switch back and forth between Muslim Personal Law Courts and the Civil Courts whichever suits them more.**
Do you have any fraction of knowledge or you just read hate websites about Islam/Islamic states?
Re: Is Pakistan an Islamic Republic?
every nation with any influence or power does what is in its best interests, now what they can actually do is limited by their resources and capabilities. We find Saudi hands in Pakistan and in other countries…dont forget the saudi forces in bahrain, and then Pakistan in propping up Taleban because of self interests, or Iran supporting hezbollah and assorted groups all over the region. Even my birthplace, and your adopted homeland of UK has its own set of activities in the past and present. That is the reality of global politics.