Is Pakistan a "Failing State" or a "Failed State"?

Foreign Afffairs expers are divided whether to call Pakistan a Failing state or already a Failed state. Many are worried that it is a threat to the entire world and humanity.

“Musharraf is losing control,” retired Lt. Gen. Talat Masood, an independent security analyst, said in an interview. “This is a failing state, if not a failed state.”

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/world/4808010.html

Failing Pakistan

The mobs on the street are a threat beyond the country’s borders

The bomb that killed at least 24 people in a hotel in Peshawar is the latest sign of instability in Pakistan. The atrocity has been blamed on local militants in the lawless North West Frontier Province in retaliation for government strikes; others have pointed to Afghan Intelligence, after border clashes between the armies of Afghanistan and Pakistan, whose rapidly worsening relations are being exploited by Taleban militants to establish safe havens in Pakistan. At the other end of the country, tensions remain high in Karachi, where two days of violence have left 41 people dead and brought pitched battles to the commercial capital. Meanwhile, armed militants in Baluchistan are inciting a tribal rebellion, while North and South Waziristan remain no-go areas for government forces as al-Qaeda fighters, criminal gangs and antigovernment rebels plot further strikes with seeming impunity. Pakistan, fractious, violent and unstable, is stumbling towards the nightmare scenario of a failed state.

The violence is the biggest threat to President Musharraf since he seized power in a coup in 1999. And as a coalition of enemies plots an end to his authoritarian rule, his room for manoeuvre becomes ever narrower. He is, in part, to blame for this latest escalation: his ill-judged decision on March 9 to suspend Muhammad Iftikar Chaudhry, the Chief Justice, on trumped-up charges that he had misused his office for personal gain has united the opposition, galvanised the professional classes and transformed chafing at military rule into ugly street violence. Tensions are running high in Lahore, where Justice Chaudhry called for the “destruction” of dictatorships that ignore the rule of law. The explosion came in Karachi, where the MQM movement of families expelled from India in 1947, until now supporters of General Musharraf, stirred up violence.

The President faces a dilemma. He cannot quash the rebellions without the army. But it is his determination to remain head of the army that has alienated Pakistan’s politicians and was the real reason why he dismissed Justice Chaudhry, who was likely to rule against the President’s plans to continue in both offices. He has several options, all risky. He could ride out the crisis, hoping that the protests collapse – which is possible, but not probable. He could argue that he was wrongly advised, reinstate Justice Chaudhry and look for a scapegoat. It is probably too late for this. He could declare a state of emergency and impose martial law. But this risks provoking bigger demonstrations and more bloodshed, and would alienate crucial supporters such as the United States. Or he could do a deal with Pakistan’s ousted politicians in return for support for his presidency. There are signs that he is attempting to woo home Benazir Bhutto, leader of the still popular Pakistan People’s Party, with a promise to drop corruption charges against her. But so far the PPP has refused to agree that he should stay on as army chief.

The collapse of state authority or the bloody overthrow of President Musharraf would be disastrous – for the region, for peace with India and for the global struggle against al-Qaeda. Pakistan-based terrorism is already the greatest threat to security in Britain and the West. General Musharraf must move swiftly to assert authority, and then work quickly to make his Government more accountable. The mobs on the street are a threat to all the world.

Re: Is Pakistan a "Failing State" or a "Failed State"?

Ilay!

Re: Is Pakistan a "Failing State" or a "Failed State"?

Not yet a failed state yet, but the events of the past few days are taking it there rapidly.

It had a fantastic opportunity to turn things around, which it did to a great degree with growing economy, the largest FX reserves in its history, foreign investment, willing to deal with its neighbor on all outstanding issues peacefully.

However, it appears, Pakistanis do not like success. They need something to moan about or fight over

What a shame.

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So you blame the common people? Who is responsible people or politicians?

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In Pakistan, both have played a major part towards its destruction.

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What do you mean by failing state? It is a failed state in 1971 and this failure continued till today. Very recently MQM pointless killing also proved that as none has been arrested so far in these brutal killings. There is no security, no justice, no law and order. Are these signs of a viable state?

FARID

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It seems situation will aggravate becoming chaotic and bloody. CIA in a report back in 2000 had predicted that Pakistan will gradually plunge into anarchy with the rit of the central govt confined only to Punjab. This has already happened.

It seems Mushi is another Gorbachev.

Nevertheless, this state has created more problems, than solve any, for its own citizens, its neigbors, people of the region as well as the world at large. Except Punjabis, it has marginalized all ethniciies e.g. like Baluch, Sindhis, Pashtuns, Bangalis, and even Muhajirs. During partition large number of people were killed and you count it!

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Right now Punjab is the most peaceful state in Pakistan with better economic prosperity.

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Few years ago, Punjab embarked on a wide-ranging reform agenda.
This included improved fiscal management, promotion of devolution, and improving service education facilities and standards

The good thing is people running these improvement projects seem to be 'mukhlis' to the cause. Whereas in other provinces, well need I say more....

Re: Is Pakistan a "Failing State" or a "Failed State"?

This is hilarious at best, last time they used the earth-quake as the reason for a failed state.. What is it this time?

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lol this time it has to be the dysfunctional 'CJ'...

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For all those Pandits here having future news reporters.....must know that....Pakistan was came into being on 27 of Ramzan night...a night better than 1000 months...and many people saw Prophet(pbuh) in dream that Pakistan will be made ....so its quite ridiculous that....when someone says some crap.....that Pakistan will be and divided.....

Prophet(pbuh) said that...i can smell the fragrance from Hind...and inshallah..in Ghazva Hind....all indo pak will become the islamic powerful land...including Afghanistan...and then from here.. a large army will move towards West to help Imam Mehdi in armegadon....

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Source please for that "hadith"?

Pakistan was created by the land owners for the land owners...... if I'm not mistaken NWFP and Balochistan had to be forced to join in the first place, and it has already been divided once.....

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^^ tirmizi have quoted 6 ahadees..in a seperate topic....i think...

amana...have you taken primary course of Pakistan studies..????????

if you not know..who created pakistan...its better not to debate with you....i have not much time to debate with ignorant...!!!!!!!!!!

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by..the way...from which country you belong so that i will "post martum" your country history..then you will know...who created pakistan and for which !!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Is Pakistan a “Failing State” or a “Failed State”?

was the title of this thread changed? :konfused:

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she is a citizen of Lesotho currently residing in Benin. Please begin your post partum activities.

Re: Is Pakistan a "Failing State" or a "Failed State"?

it's failing day by day :)

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all nations have problems but look how the people in pakistans support thugs. if a pakistani is hel bent on supporting corrupt leaders - then thats what they get. some of them are die-hard benazir nawaz sharif supporters - and what ddi they ever do?

pakistan has sadly never done anything to get itself out of its problems. it has bad relations with its neighbours. it has violent and degenerate political parties. it has growing sectarian and militancy problems. its leaders are only interested in looking after themselves. the military, the intelligence agencies and those in power constantly meddle around in political issues which the should nt do and which often backfire in their faces - the creation of the mqm, the encouragement of the jamat islami, the encouragement of islamic militancy, the situation in kashmir and afghanistan too name but a few. not just that but the drug culture, alienation of minorities, the destruction of a clean healthy environment to live in.

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You are extremely mis-informed.

NWFP had a referundum and they chose to join.

Balochistan assembly voted for joining Pakistan.