Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

Eventually as Islam continues to spread through North America, you will see more muslims named Adam, Aaron, Moses, and so on. 200 years ago someone was probably having the same debate about the name Pervaiz. We have a large community of Thai muslims here, and you wouldn't recognize most of their names, because they are Burmese. That doesn't make them any less connected to their faith than you or me. We need to stop assuming that anything Arab or Pakistani is Islamic, and anything else is not.

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The onus is on you guys to prove where it says in the Quran that we need to name our children using Arabic names. Then half the muslim world is sinning anyway, because so many muslim names come from Farsi. Persian language and Arabic language are two unrelated languages. Confuse the two in front of a Persian and they'll slap you.

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

That's rich coming from an Aleesha.

Ever heard of Alisha?

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

My parents must be some crazy conformist heretics, naming me "Sahar" (Arabic, Farsi, Hebrew, etc etc etc).

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Nope, cuz we take religious names, not cultural ones. The primary texts are in Arabic, so ta-da.

Persian, Turkish names are also floating around. But as a largely converted populous, we go straight to the 'traditionalist' names...whch most Arabs don't even keep, btw.

Muslims of China have regional names too...

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For all the "non-conformists" here, how many of you would dare to name your kid Saddam or Zarqawi?

And then send him off to a school populated mainly by Shi'as.

See what happens then.

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There's lots of converts to Islam who are proud to wear the hijaab, they don't mind that they stand out, and believe me they stand out more when it is white skin under the hijaab.
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That's because converts think they have something to prove lots of times. They even discard their native culture and start adopting trends native to Arabs and Desis. It's quite laughable.

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

alisha(aleesha) means "protected by god"..the name can be found in many MUSLIM name books.

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What if, what if.............. it is easy to bring up extreme examples. With the way so many in the West despise Muslims in the West you'd think Mohammed would be one of the most recognisable Muslim names possible. Some people might not want to give their child the name of the Prophet, but I bet you many others will give their sons that name.

I know a kid called Osama and he is living a normal life, the way some people have responded you would think the kid would have been murdered by other children or bullied to the point of suicide.

The last poster mentioned Muslim name books, there is a reason for these books, people buy them to give their children a name linked to Islam. That doesn't necessarily mean the name was designed specifically for Muslims but for various reasons many names have come to be used by Muslims.

Yet, I'm sure at least a few posts in this thread have stated there is no such thing as a Muslim name.

You could say the people giving their kids western names are the ones not conforming to tradition, if you look at it the way you have pictured it then everyone giving their child a 'Muslim' name is a non conformist. Are people who wear asian dress also non conformist, is visiting a masjid non conformist? As in not conforming to Western ways of life, if you don't go to the pub or to a nightclub are you a non conformist?

The west is supposed to be the land of freedom, as they paint it, so now you're saying it's best not to practice any freedoms which mark you as even a teensy weeny bit different? Should all rastafarians cut off their dreadlocks? Maybe the Sikhs should get rid of their beards and turbans, and not let their children have top-knots, since they might be teased.

I wish all the best to anyone naming their kids a western name, an African name, Chinese name, whatever. I just wouldn't do that myself, and I was trying to point out why I wouldn't. Some of the reasons given for not giving a child a Muslim name aren't really very good reasons at all.

Name your kid whatever you want but be honest, just say you like that name, but if you go down that road I bet you will name all your children in that manner, not just one, because then he or she will stand out from his/her brothers or sisters.

The reasons such as the kids will be attacked, tormented etc etc aren't very realistic.

At the end of the day no matter what you name your kid he will still have BROWN skin and therefore stand out to some degree.

Actually, maybe the cosmetics industry will invent a magic drug to make our skin white some day, and we'll dye our hair blonde and finally, we can truly fit in. That means only eating pizza, pasta and burgers, in case they spot you doing 'outsider' type things, and it'll be skirts for all the girls and strictly jeans for the boys, no asian/arab dress either.

LOL this thread was an interesting one, I'm off to get some sleep.

:)

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It's just that they do a lot of research and thinking before accepting Islam as their faith...And according to Quran, enter into it completely...Not like those born into Islam and yet have a deep sense of inferiority complex and want to shun everything Islamic...

Now those who enter into Islam with body and soul is a noble and laudable thing...But those born into Islam and wanting to shun everything because they think it's more to do with Arabization is indeed laughable...

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I know atleast 3 Osamas, 1 Saddam, 1 Qaddafi and 1 Musab, and they are scattered all over the globe, and none of their lives have been made hell by anyone.

Secondly, to make a point that arabic names are not important....Ibraheem, Ishaq, Ismaeel, Yaqub, Esa, Musa.... NONE of them are Arabic names.

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So why do converts like to become terrorists and blow themselves up?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070905/ap_on_re_eu/germany_terror

Case in point.

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Thats what percentage of converts bullehshah?

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

would you have an issue then if someone names their kid

abraham, isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Jesus, Moses, or Noah, Adam, Michael, Gabriel etc?

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Names dont just have religious significance. They should reflect cultural association also.

Jamal is a very Muslim name. So is Gamal. We go with first pronounciation in Pakistan.

My wife's name is Hina. In arabic countries, they write it Hena or Henna. But we accept Hina because of the way we pronounce it and consider it right.

Abraham, Isaac are OK but they dont have any association to our culture, thus should not be used for muslim-pakistani/hindustanni community

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WHat's in a name!!! it's on the inside that counts :)

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tariq

so at some point in time it will be okay then for ppl who are in the west? in a few generations when the links to Pakistan are very weak?

and what about people who are in the west and convert? since they dont have any association to Pakistani culture why should they pick a Pakistani name, or an arabic name .. they dont have anu association with arabic culture.

I mean after all if the arabic names gets written or pronounced differently because teh families using those names moved to teh subcontinent or were in subcontinent and accepted the faith. we pronounce names very differently..even names like Mohammad and ahmed get pronounced very differently. and then the case is of the spelling.

all i would say is if your name is jawad, please change it before you move to egypt :)

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Some english names should at least have a good meaning. Like, for example, micheal maybe after a prophet? Some Muslim names could be english as well like Sara, Micheal, Alyssia or something.

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Agreed with you Fraudia. In general, if the name does not have any anti-islamic meaning then it is OK to have that name.

Jawad would be pronounce Gawad in egypt. What's with Gawad

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Actually won't names change due to accents or anything?

Saa-Raa in america would become Say-ra