Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

Try telling that to numerous converts.

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

I think he changed his name to be closer to the Baath Party. Integration, my man ;)

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

I guess most great men feel the same way…I believe it’s Imam Shafii :rehm:'s way of saying that if you argue with a fool, the fool may be doing the same…

According to Ahadith there are a few pointers as to what constitutes a fool during an argument…

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

I don't agree with his lifestyle either, but his opinion does count. If you were joking I'm sorry, it's hard to know online whether someone is being serious or saying something in jest.

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Nothing wrong with saying it as Sara... there's alot of versions of it, and I've heard other goray call their kids SAara..... everyone like a change, since its becoming such a multicultural world. Plus it sounds 'exotic'

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sigh sigh… did u know the origin of the name Roxana…it’s chitrali but known more as greek…and the pakistani version of it is “Rukhsana” when alexander came to invade Asian continent, he came across a princess named “ROxana” in the kalash valley … so I was like Oooh since they can not pronounce the 'Khhhh" to make it sound conveniant its “Roxana”

Every name wheither whatever origin, its the same just different in every language. If one goes in search on a particular name, they’ll come to know how similar the entire human race and their names are

and u know what refrain from your petty ‘fun poking’ at ppl who may not share the same ethical or religious whatever as u. No one surpasses another… so what makes u think u are so above it all! :smilestar:

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Haaa now thats a brilliant lie. Guess u skipped or missed out on quite alot in schools then!!! It doesn’t matter what country or faith u belong to… kids always come up with something to bug u with. like as if a pathan kid wud have an easier time in a punjabi majority. or a sindi vs Mahajir etc etc… Stuff it man… . thats one lame argument… so keep ur guns where they belong. :rolleyes: Every place has it’s own gig to it… perhaps the ‘picking on one’ is always different. U see there was just this one ‘christian boy’ in our class, and that was convent, we always bullied him, he always got beaten up, and the boys always pinned him to the ground kay parh 'la ila ha illal la…!!!" Man puhlease… seriously u guppies need to open up ur mind and stop thinking only as wide as a gun barrel’s hole permits u.
Mamaof3, don’t even reply bothering to such blantant attempts of merely shouting for ur attention.

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For you to call me a liar implies guilty conscience from you…Are you lying about the Christian boy? Maybe telling half truths, exaggerating or maybe twisting the facts? Be honest now…

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

Here is what Islamqa has to say:

Question:
** Upon becoming muslim, how important is it to change your name?and what is the differance between an arabic name and a muslim name?. **

   Answer:

Praise be to Allaah. Names carry meanings, and every person will be influenced by (the meaning of) his name, in most cases. Man is required to call himself – or his children – by good names with good meanings, so that they will be influenced positively by their names.

Islam came to the Arabs and the non-Arabs, and it is not essential for a new Muslim to take an Arabic name, rather what is required is that he should not have a name that is ugly or carries a meaning that goes against Islam. Many Persians and Byzantines embraced Islam and kept their names, and did not change them. Indeed many of the Prophets had names that were not Arabic because they were not Arabs.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked: Does a person who becomes Muslim have to change his name like George or Joseph etc?
He replied:
He does not have to change his name unless it is a name that reflects servitude to someone or something other than Allaah, but it is good to change his name to something better. So if he changes his name from a foreign name to an Islamic name, that is good, but as to whether it is obligatory, no it is not.

But if his name was ‘Abd al-Maseeh = “slave of the Messiah”, a name common among Arab Christians; a similar name in English cultures would be “Christopher” – Translator] or something of that nature, then he should change it, but if the name does not imply servitude to anything or anyone other than Allaah, such as George and Paul, etc., then he does not have to change it, because these names are shared by Christians and others. And Allaah is the Source of strength.

http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=23273&ln=eng&txt=english%20names

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

In few words, sweety..... Our names can be as the rainbow. There are sahabas and prophets (pbut) from ahle kitaab.... So it doesnt make them "american or western".

It does make sense to have a name easily pronunced and NOT similar to any BAD or dirty word of the local language. It open doors for good job opportunities and might be the factor, of your "file" not getting piled up to the no no list.....Those who are selected as absolute wont do.

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I know a Noah and Adam- spelled and pronounced the english way.

I think it's ok as long as a decent name but personally would rather have a name that id's my child ethnically enough as muslim.

By the way- do you know Zareena is the Russian for queen? So some of our traditional desi/muslim names really aren't

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

I think it is totally fine.. I am Alhamdullah muslim but i have an italian name.. so don't think it makes a difference..

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

whatever reason he changed his name, it indicates that arab christians have used arab names which we consider muslim. I gave you other examples as well. additionally key arab christian theologists century after century have arab names and you would be unable to tell that they were christians and not muslims.

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Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

Why? How is Farsi anymore your culture than Arabic?

Why are you so narrow minded? No language is pure, every nation has names with foreign origins. I think you have a complex and are trying too hard create an identity for yourself.

Shut it pinocchio.

What do you mean by my lifestyle? If you think I live a gay lifestyle then you're mistaken, I might be bisexual but I'm non practicing, although I have found somebody else to add to my list of male crushes (anyone seen the billboard advert for motorola razr? The one with the dark haired girl and boy on it? Well I think the guy has fineee abs, shame you can't see his face).

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I see exactly nothing wrong with naming a child within the norms of the society that they will be living in. I DO see wrong in naming a child due to mis-conceived notions of religion. Islaam states that a name have a GOOD meaning - end of story. No need to make some big outstanding statement by naming your child with a name that sticks them out like a sore thumb. The very first thing that you're told in these kidnap-prevention seminars is NEVER NEVER make your child feel so very unique that the child feels isolated. Sorry to tell you hardliners but if you name your child Muhammad or Osama and send them to skool with a bunch of Bills, Sams and Harrys then the kid is GOING to get picked on, beat up and made fun of. No one is meaner than little kids, so wake up and smell the java. And dont make your children pay YOUR bill for your hardline beliefs.

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Or naming your kids Zarqawi or Saddam.

Try going to a school in Iraq that is all Shi'a with the name of Zarqawi and see what will happen.

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The day I see a joint fatwa by Maulana Frank Yamagato, Mufti Gianluca Silvestri with supporting work of Maria Conchita Gonzalez and Guo Ming, I would feel that the message has been heard :)

Re: Is it okay if you give ur child a english name: though u are a muslim/pakistiani?

The early muslims didn't invent names out of thin air to keep themselves apart from the Kuffar. Kuffars also took the same Arabic names that you found among converts to Islam. If this was the case, Prophet Muhammed would have renounced his name as given to him by his pagan parents and given himself a new name.

The ONLY reason why muslims take on Arabic or Farsi names is for the sake of unity and recognition. That if I name my kid Abdullah, I know that everyone else will know that they're muslim. If that's why you want to name your kid Abdullah, then go ahead, no problem. But if a person takes on a non-Arabic, non-Farsi name just because they like the sound of it and the meaning, then don't get so antsy about it. There is NO requirement in Islam to name your kid by an Arabic name. Its quite like wearing an Abayah. Do you need to wear one? No. But many women do, and often times, its because they want to be identified as muslims. That doesn't make it a mandatory thing.

I'd like to add that in Pakistan, you'll find Pakistani muslims with names that are very village-ish and come from Hindu orgins. Take for example, Chandni, or Kiran, or Neha, etc. So, then why is it inconeivable that someone can name their kid George or Harry or Isadore?

Its because its not very common, and we have a tendency to automatically think "Christian" when we hear a white name or "Hindu" if we hear a hindu name.

We're becoming a very global society. We need to start thinking outside the box. I might chose an Arabic name for my child, but I can guarantee you, its only because it sounds good, not because its Arabic.