Re: Is it not a good idea to reunite India and Pakistan and save poor Kashmiris
Within each of those those states, however, you don’t find large concentrations of millions of Muslims. Apart from small localities, Muslims live as minorities spread out in communities all over the states. They don’t form the dominant population of large areas of land.
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Oh shut it and move on. You left out the fact that memons are doing very well in Karachi and are leaders of not only business anymore, but other sectors as well. Like engineering, and medicine, etc.
Re: Is it not a good idea to reunite India and Pakistan and save poor Kashmiris
" Minji Bhen Ke Minje Mathe Hetro Gusso.. ". I am now really scared of you and thoroughly confused…Do I really deserve to be greeted with snappings and disliking like this for my distasteful idea? My long time Swedish email friend has always been modest to me and she would politely point out whenever I go wrong. My former memon girl email friend used to always address me “BHAA” despite having utter disagreement on various issues and always treated me with modesty. I wanted to sing this song, my all time favourite and a masterpiece of early sixties "DIL KHUSH HAI… AAAJ UNSE… MULAAAKAAT HO GAI…MULAAKAAAAT HO GAI… WO DOOR HI SE BAAAT HUI…BAAT HO GAI… ". But I am really sad. I wish I could send you this song and other such stuffs to make you more modest.
Just couple of days back, my two colleagues were asking me how I could tame that aggressive guy in a Canadian steel mill…I told them that I was capable of domesticating wild animals.
Finally you will one day remember me when you realize the power of modesty. Your, this poor brother, will never be wrong at least on this count.
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In Indian subcontinent nobody can claim to be pure Aryans. North Indians and Pakistanis are both Indo-Aryans and have mixed to some extent with Dravidians. All North Indians and Pakistani languages belong to Indo-European group. South Indians are all Dravidians and speak dravidian languages. I lived in South India for a decade but couldn’t pick up the Dravidian language.
Re: Is it not a good idea to reunite India and Pakistan and save poor Kashmiris
hey I have an even more brilliant idea, how about we solev kashmir issue by unifying india, pakistan, bangaldesh, sri lanka, nepal, afghanistan..all of europe, americas, australia, pacific islands, rest of asia eh?
but lets just not include mongolia, just to make them feel left out.
Re: Is it not a good idea to reunite India and Pakistan and save poor Kashmiris
No India and Pakistan shouldn't reunite... In the history of this world Pakistan and India have not always historically been part of the same Empire, besides even if they were nobody should be stuck with that they were thousand of years ago for ever and ever, Pakistanis now have a new identity seperate from India, they share a part of their history and heritage with India as they do a part with ancient Persia/Central Asia but that doesn't mean anything anymore beyond a few similar articles in the history books and similar artifacts in the museums... Today Pakistanis are known by their national idenitity not by whether they were part of Ashoka's empire, Mughals empire or Mohd Bin Qasim's empire, even their present (PETTY) ethnic groups and castes have no recognition in the wider world.
Kashmiri's look like Pakis anyway, Hindus/Indians have that other look to them, Kashmiri's from Indian occupied Kashmir are Pakistani anyway, they'll become part of Pakistan one day coz they're Muslim and don't look like monkeys so they don't go right well with India, the only other goodlooking people from India are Sikhs but they're going to get their own Khalistan anyway, all Sikhs I know put their Punjabi/Sikh pride over their Indian identity, whilst Pakistani Punjabis are just Pakistani now and that's the way it should be.. I feel sorry for Punjabis in India for having to be associated with the rest of that country man, some Hindus are okay looking like the Kashtri's and Marhatta's and stuff but they togther with Sikhs only comprise about 5% of India, if that, the rest are not my cuppa cha.
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I am really amazed by your corrupt thinking about the look. Nobody in the world can differentiate between upper caste North Indian Hindus and Pakistanis. Yes South Indians have a distinctly different look. Hindu Brahmins, whether from North India or South India almost always have lighter skin and constitute over 5 to 10% of Indian population. Only the lower caste Hindus and tribal people who constitue 25% of Indian population have a different look.
I have always been misidentified as Pakistani because of my muslim name and North Indian look. Westerners think that muslim name with North Indian look might be a Pakistani. But I always correct them by saying that I am an Indian and I am proud of my Indian identity.
If you talk of good look then I will say that slightly lighter skin doesn’t give a good look. Look at the film stars of Indian movies of 60s and 70s. They are far better looking than Pakistani film celebrities. Even I have a better look than most Pakistanis. Just have a look at my picture if you have any doubt:)
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I said some Hindu castes and people from northwestern India do look like Pakistanis but they’re a small minoirty in India…
North Indians are not all the same, I’ve come across enough South Asians to know, people from Punjab/Kashmir region look nothing like.. say somebody from Bengal or Gujarat even though all of them are considered north Indian.
Indians make it sound like their country is clear cut between a Pakistani looking north and a Madrasi looking south but we all know that’s not the case, it’s only a bit of northwestern India which is different from the rest of India (which will in the long run probably become Khalistan and rest of it part of Pakistani Kashmir), most of the time I can’t differentiate between a person from Kerala and a person from Madya Pradesh so it’s not clear cut.
Seriously dude, Bollywood is not a very accurate reflection of the real India, it is an over glamorisation… I don’t watch your movies, only a mad man would, they’re so cheesy they have me in stiches, look like clowns.
Some actors/actresses are goodlooking but they almost always have foreign blood (John Abraham is half Persian) in them or they are from northwestern regions. Typical north Indian men would be like Arjun Rampal, Abishik Bachan etc.
For an accurate representation of Indian people just look at the background dancers in a song because the main stars if they’re any goodlooking look as though they’re from Pakistan and westward towards the Middle and East and Central Asia…
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I still differ from you. I can give you the statistics. 30% of Indians are South Indians and they have a distincly different look than any North Indians. Then 25% of North Indians are lower caste or tribals and so that makes another 20% out. So 50% of Indians have a different look than Pakistanis but rest 50% are no different from Pakistanis. Just last week when I boarded a taxi, I thought the taxi driver to be from central part of India because of his dark brown skin colour and look. But he turned out to be a Pakistani from Punjab province. I have seen many Sindhi muslims to be dark skinned. I guess Baluchi to be dark too. My ancesters are from Gujarat (But originally from Sindh) and most of my community members are fair brown.
Just mix Indian Cricket Crowd in North India with Pakistani Crowd wearing an exactly similar dress. Can you exactly tell who are Indians and who are Pakistanis? I bet you cannot . But if you do the same with Iranians then yes you can tell the difference. Mix North Indian crowd with South Indian crowds then you can tell the difference.
People of Maharashtra, Orissa and Bengal are not considered North Indians. North India is beyond Vindhya Hills which is in Madhya Pradesh. So part of Madhya Pradesh is in North India.
Don’t go by Indian leaders. Lower Caste Indians are politically very strong and today’s Indian politicians come from lower caste background.
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Does it really matter if Indians and Pakistanis look alike or look different?
seperation should be based on religious ideology not ethnic or racial divide
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Yeah right, you don’t watch Bollywood but know quite a bit about it. Me being an Indian did not knwo about John being half this and half that, in fact umm, who is he in the first place? Name sounds familiar, I don’t watch that many movies and forget names immediately. But you even know which actors/actresses have foreign or north west blood in them! And you even study background dancers!
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Why are looks such an issue?
Sal35, I agree with you. I've watched Indian movies and Indian T.V. channels. And based on that observation, though limited, I can say that Indians and Pakistanis look alike. However, I wouldn't emphasize this point strongly because I have never visted India or met a large Indian Diaspora to affirm what I say based on a wider observation.
Price of Persia, Pakistan is only a political label. It is not an ethnicity or culture.
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Everything evolves with time. American culture did n’t exist 500 years ago as you see today, Indian “culture” took its time. Pakistan’s geographical area have their own culture but since it was part of Indian subcontinent so there was good chance of mixing cultures with neighborhood cities/states thats why you see so much common ground in the culture of now two countries “Pakistan” and “India”. India wasn’t born with its own culture on 1st day. Pakistan separated from subcontinent like 58 years ago so the effect of isolation of cultures cannot produce result in just few decades.