i agree with sadaf and amana....i too have lived in a hostel in pak...the girls there just transform there a lot...i think it has to do more with the freedom and liberty they have than staying at home (although some hostels are pretty strict)....and what amana is saying is also correct...wearing a hijab probably gives her more freedom and stuff...and hey, im jealous..i would love to go out with my girlfriends until 2am..sounds like fun....if ur having a problem with it, just talk to her and explain how u feel...it shouldnt be a big deal..ur lucky u dont have a gori girl making you spend nights in the hallway while shes busy in the dorm room doing god knows who...lol......
I wear hijaab. I laugh with my friends. I have fun. I dont drink, dont sleep around, dont go clubbing, go to the movies to watch a nice movie, stay out a bit late once in a while, didnt opt for arranged marriage and yet I am a practising Muslim without allowing anyone to judge me for being the opposite!
Being conservative doesnt mean one is a good Muslim. Look at the sunnah of the prophet saw. He saw had fun with the sahaba and he encouraged laughter and fun!
Maybe u shud start reading islamic stuff about how to live life instead of relying on conservative traditions telling u to limit urself more than necessary! :)
Saying Indians are more relaxed than Pakistanis is about as judgmental if you ask me.
However as far as this whole topic goes, &Passionate, I think you're judging the girl without actually knowing her . If you think watching a movie and staying out until 2 am is wrong, its alright to have that point of view . But I dont think it is right to judge the girls entire being on laughter and a 2 am movie.
You'll meet all sorts of people esp in school . get to know them. You might be surprised when you find out what they're really like.
wats this hype about i dont allow anybody to judge me? people judge wether u allow them or not dont they? u may not take their opinions seriously but saying ''i dont allow people to judge sounds a bit coocoo''.
Being conservative doesnt mean one is a good Muslim. Look at the sunnah of the prophet saw. He saw had fun with the sahaba and he encouraged laughter and fun!
Maybe u shud start reading islamic stuff about how to live life instead of relying on conservative traditions telling u to limit urself more than necessary! :)
*couldn't have said it any better. :) *
as my sign... "live and let live and have a bloody good time whilst your at it".
i think u have all put the wrong perspective on what the issue is here. As far as i understand it to be the topic the overall concept is concerned with how society would view a girl in a hijab in comparison to a girl who does not wear a hijab.
i can totally understand where she is coming from. I wear english clothes, i went to a school where the majority of students were english (in fact there was no other pakistani girl). And all my parents friend and family created a hoo-haa about how i would come under the influence of smoking, drinking and drugs, whilst they all sent their daughters to the asian schools. And in fact i now realise it is their daughter who drink, smoke and do alot more.
And, now at university...the ones' in hijab are the one who hang around with the desi lads. Basically, some of these girls (and i must stress not most of them) who wear hijab use it as a cover to hide their true self. Y are they partying whilst out at university, if they wouldn't at home? U should always be urself in every situations, and not let the situation decide ur actions. I don't go partying when i am at home and i would not go out partying whilst i am university. Those who are true frineds will accept u for u, not for wat u do!
People should not judge someone by their outer appearance, but by their personality.
Why even get stereotypical about Hijaabis on a first place?
She might be wearing hijaab but do u know that she is doing it because of her own will or pushed by her family/parents?
Hmm.. I don't think hanging out wiht guys until 2 AM , doing whatever, is right or shareef at all. As for the laughter, it has nothign to do wiht hijab or no hijab, its a matter of common decency n public behavior.. they sound like obnoxious lil grls who are excited they have so much freedom for hte first time.. maybe htey're not doing anything "unlawful" (like dating, partying, drinking etc) but they sure seem to be quite annoying, laughing every other second n no its not exactly wrong to laugh, but hey we're allowed to be annoyed at ppls stupid habits rite?: ;)
Eh.. u think hanging out wiht guys til 2 AM is fine, go ahead.. to each their own
but some things like laughing too loud aren't really a question of religion/morality/etc so its kinda annoying to c something like laughter turn into a religious debate
See my point starting this thread wasnt to attack hijaabis or anything. I admire girls who wear hijaab but i’ll admire em more if they keep up with it.
I agree with every single person who said, live and let live. And that is what i am doing. I am not forcing her to do things my way nor would I ever do that.
As you guys said, certainly giggling is not a bad thing bvut as I have been raised in an environment where common decency and public behavior is extremely important, I just found it alarming to see them act like that.
And another thing you guys need to understand is that the reason she’s my roommate is I wanted a muslim roommate. That way I could relate to her better and the whole diet issue etc. I am not saying that she’s a totally horrendous person but she’s not what I expected.
And sweetpip, you said exactly what I wanted to say in a much better way:
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Also, I am not saying that I wouldnt condemn this kind of behavior if the girl wasnt a hijaabi. I still would. I had a american born/raised pakistani acquaintance (not friend) at my JC, and she was the complete opposite of what a good muslim girl should be. I put the same criticism on her as I did with my hijaabi roommate. And my roommate comes from extremely conservative backgorund, mroe so than mine, then when they have been taught all their lives that this is what they should do, then why’re they doing something different. Ofcourse, there are some restriction that are just stupid but there are some that should be taken care of parents around or not.
Chameli420 - the thing is that my conservative traditions are not differentt that what Islam teaches us. I am not saying I am perfect. I am NOT and that is for SURE!
And ofcourse, this is not the only thing that bothers me about her
you guys will see tonns of threads by me about my annoying, dirty roommate
And now its midnight here and her boyfriend is sitting in our apartment, I am guessing in her room as I am in my room. But what the hell? I had actually told her before that it isnt okay with me if he spends time here. And now look at this!
Don’t assume i was assuming anything about YOUR morality 
