Hey Matsui, you are not funny mate, you have to feel sorry for mem saab…
A recent British study point to a very different picture than what you guys seem to believe:
Major findings of the study are as follows:
Country of origin % children with related parents
India 5.1
Pakistan 68.7
Bangladesh 13.4
Results of 5 year Birmingham study of Pakistani immigrants to UK
Causes of disabilities and their rate / 1000
Europeans Pakistanis
Mental retardation and neurological problems 0.5 15.2
Severe mental retardation 0.5 3.3
Metabolic and haematol disorders 2.3 9.8
Do you still believe that cousin marriages are ok?
Sorry I cannot get the spacing right for some reason.
at the end of the day its destiny.
if you're destined to have a special needs child, you will.
regardless of who you marry
A study by Dr Mamoona Tahir:
Source:BBC News | HEALTH | Campaign tackles Asian child deaths
Babies born to Birmingham’s Pakistanis are most at risk
By BBC News Online’s Community Affairs reporter, Cindi John
The high rate of infant mortality among some Asians in Birmingham is being targeted by a campaign to alert people to the dangers of marrying close relatives.
**A recent survey by Birmingham Health Authority revealed that babies born to members of the city’s Pakistani community were three times more likely to die compared to other races.
The doctor behind the survey, Dr Mamoona Tahir, said around 40% of the deaths were due to genetic illnesses which were made more likely by the traditional practice of marriages between first cousins.
Dr Tahir said such marriages led to a 30-fold increase in the chance of children inheriting genetic disorders like phenylketonuria, a metabolic condition which can cause mental retardation, and thalassaemia, a blood disorder. **
Mamoona Tahir: “Issue must be addressed”
She said such problems were not restricted to Pakistanis in Birmingham and that marrying a first cousin was not in itself a problem but it raised issues which needed to be addressed.
Dr Tahir said: "It’s only if you’re carrying a particular gene and you’re married to a cousin who has inherited the same defective gene from a grandparent, then there are some conditions that you can be pretty sure would affect one in four of their children.
"People should be aware of what the risks are so that if they have alternatives or choices like marrying slightly distant relatives they can make that choice.
“Or if they are already married they can cut down the risk by accessing services early so that that a baby’s condition is picked up sooner so that something can be done about it,” she added.
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At the end of the day, don't sleep with your cousin.
Arvind, you're a hindu, in Islam it is allowed.
Arvind you hindu!!! Incest is not allowed in Hinduism. :nono:
Mem saab,
It isn't a question of religion permitting at all. Hindus are also allowed certain marriages of the type. It depends on the community. In Marathi community a boy is allowed to marry his mamu's daughter altho this is not very common. In Tamilian brahmins, a girl is allowed to marry her mamu and it is very common.
But forget what religion allows you. Read my three posts earlier. Studies conducted by muslims themselves in UK prove beyond doubt that there are significant genetic risks in first cousin marriages. Studies conducted by independent scientists in Norway and Finland point to exactly the same conclusion. If you want to ignore them, go ahead, be my guest but remember you are risking your children's future for no discernible benefit.
Mats,
I don’t care what religion says. Science says (as I believe I have proven beyond doubt by my earlier posts) that screwing your cousin (that is my cousin for me, not your cousin, she might be ok for me, please PM me her picture) is a genetic risk. So I didn’t make a move on any of my cousines (note the French use) even though some of them were quite good-looking.
I would also like to mention parentethically, that religion should kind of stay out of people’s bedrooms when it doen’t know the consequences of what it is preaching. Otherwise you have situation like Mufti Desai of South Africa exhorting the faithful to not look at their spouse’s genitals while being amorous. (refrence provided on request)
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Mem saab,
In Tamilian brahmins, a gilr is allowed to marry her mamu and it is very common.
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That's true. My college roommate who was from Madras, was really looking forward to marrying his niece, 12 years younger than him. He said, the word of mouth engagement has been done. It's a matter of time she hits puberty.
I was kinda shocked.
Arvind, thanks for sharing. I knew it but didn't want to bring it up on my own. I wanted an Indian to disclose it. Shame on Matsui.
Thanks for the articles, guys. They are really thought-provoking.
Anyone watching 20/20 on ABC?
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I knew it but didn't want to bring it up on my own.
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Hey don't be shy Fungo. Shy people don't have kids.
marrying your cousin is not incest u jerk!