i was listenin to the radio.. there was this jerry sprinfer kinda show where ppl were coming clean to their loved ones.. telling them stuff that they were hidin all along.. and there was this guy who had to tell his girlfriend that he was seeing his own cousin.. ok besides the point he was cheating on her.. they were makin fuss about how he could boogi woogi with his own cousin.. that is incest.. and they were givin the dude a whole loada crap.. which was funny
is it true that gora ppl believe marriying cousins is incest
No it’s not incest because 1) Islam allows it 2) most Pakistanis are the product of cousin marriages.
A lot of gora people do marry their first and second cousins but not as much as us because they don’t have arranged marriages we do and our moms only like their nieces.
It was more common amongst them in the olden days especially amongst royalty before the scientists came out with rubbish about diseases, the chances are there if they have a disease in the family but not very high and not every family has serious genetic diseases.
To answer your original question.. yes, in most western families, cousins are considered like siblings, and they don't marry siblings. In fact, in many states within US, cousin-marriage is prohibited by law as a relationship of consanguinity (by blood).
As a gora myself, I can answer this. Yes, cousin-marrying is completely out-of-bounds. Except in the back-woods areas and here you will find genetic mutations and infertility abounds. Cousin marrying is extremely bad for the "genetic pool", just talk to any animal breeder. Or look at the Hasidic Jews. There are few of them and they can only marry hasidim and its been this way for so many generations that they either cannot produce anymore or they produce genetically damaged children. The gene pool cant handle inbreeding and thats a fact jack.
As you are a gora I am willing to accept your view that culturally, cousin marriages are no longer acceptable in some places in the West (it used to be ok in the UK but now its not) - maybe it will be “in” again in the future. However, unless you are a scientist, then I cannot accept the “weakening of the gene-pool” argument.
INDEPENDANT RESEARCH shows that there is no real medical evidence that marrying a cousin will lead itself to any weakening of the gene-pool. Islam also permits it. See these links which have not been written by anyone who appeard to be Pakistani or Muslim:
although islam allows cousin marriages and with respect i am not challenging oh why does it allow it astags'. but i c my female cousins as my younger sisters as i have grown up with them, i will not marry a sister? and don't any 1 say; "oh shaadi sai pehlai sab behenai hotain hain. basically i don't go for sisters.
now coming back to this thread, angraiz ppl find this "appalling" when they hear of it becoz simply they don't marry their cousins on a large scale like we do back home, there mite be a handful of em' who mite marry their cousins but the majority i would say find it disgusting. with us pakis 1st of all mazhab allows it and it has been customery in many families that cousins would marry each other, certainly many corners of pakistan will have cousins who have wed each other.
Islam clearly states who you can and cannot marry in the Quran. Cousins are considered non-mehrams and no matter what you feel inside, they are not your sisters they never will be.
Pakistanis are quite confused on this matter and as you rightly state, one moment you are told she is your sister so its ok to chill out with your cousins and then before you know it, you end up marrying one of them!
The concept of mehram and non-mehram needs to be understood.
Honestly though, I have to admit, I have a point. In my opinion, there is absolutely nothing wrong if a person wants to marry a cousin. It’s their choice, and they are cousins ,not brother or sister.All this cousin marriages being incest is bs.
BiB— Quit wasting your time with jerry springer and the likes. This is probably not the worst thing people have revealed about themselves on such shows anyhow.
Yeah. I'm sure, if done exclusively, it's not a good move. After all, the prevalence of hemophilia in the royal families of Europe is thought to be due to too many generations of intermarriages.
But, it is permissible by Islam and recent research has shown that the genetic risk is not as much as people thought (a study came out a couple years ago, I think).
Im not one to have any thoughts of marrying any of my cousins.However, I just think that I could end up with a guy (whos not related) who might have some defective genes.My cousins side could be healthier.
Its allowed in the Quran and the Prophet :saw: married his cousin.
If your muslim you shouldnt find it disgusting.
Actually Ive heard that in Pakistan something like 40% of marriages are between cousins. Even if the figure is wrong we all know it happens alot in Pakistan, so are there any adverse affects cause of this? Is there alot of genetic defects amongst Pakistanis?
Personally I havent seen any adverse affects to children born of cousin marriages.
since it is mentioned in the quran on what cousins u can marry.. there is no possiblity of not producing anymore or produce genetically damaged children or so on..
agreed with LUCs point of sari zindagi behan bhai tay hun biwi ban kay kithoon aai
i would by no chance be married with a cousin neway..
besides there are no Iman ali`s in my cousins
yeah i agree :k: i know wat u r sayin, i never denied that quran never allowed it, i know it’s allowed in islam fair play; but i was just stating how I felt about this issue and basically i have quite a few female cousins and no way am i marrying a sister, i consider them sisters as i said, i spent my childhood with most of them and as i was their elder {age wise} they referred to me as brother and ofcourse i always saw them as my younger sisters. cousin marriages r ok for some, nah not for me though.
In my opinion, there is absolutely nothing wrong if a person wants to marry a cousin. It’s their choice, and they are cousins ,not brother or sister.All this cousin marriages being incest is bs.