The meat that the Maple Lodge Farm sells in Mississauga, Ontario… Is it halal? Many people say yes but there are some who say no. The ones who say no justify by saying that the chicken goes through a machine and a tape recorder is played in which the Muslim says the words that are said prior to slaughtering the animal in the Islamic way. Even if this is true, is the meat considered acceptable/halal? Can the tape recorder be enough for having the meat slaughtered in the halal way? I’ve been curious about the timing between the meat and the voice…
Can someone clarify this for me? I wouldn’t want to eat meat that’s haram…
The meat that the Maple Lodge Farm sells in Mississauga, Ontario... Is it halal? Many people say yes but there are some who say no. The ones who say no justify by saying that the chicken goes through a machine and a tape recorder is played in which the Muslim says the words that are said prior to slaughtering the animal in the Islamic way. Even if this is true, is the meat considered acceptable/halal? Can the tape recorder be enough for having the meat slaughtered in the halal way? I've been curious about the timing between the meat and the voice...
Can someone clarify this for me? I wouldn't want to eat meat that's haram....
Wa Alaikum Salaam,
Interesting... Hmmm well this is simple... The recorded msg cant be a takbeer for each animal..
on the other hand... Did the person who record it do the NIYYAT of slaughtering 1000 or 1 million chickens or an UNKNOWN NUMBER of chickens ??
and how can you do a NIYYAT for an egg that is going to be laid by a chicken a week later and then it will grow up as chicken after 30 days...
you dont even know that the person slaughtering the chicken is full of NIYYAT.. and 1 thing more... Non-Muslims do not believe on Takbeer... they just cut down the Shah-Ragg...
and at-last.. lets believe if the recorded takbeer is ok to prove it halal..but do you know that the person slaughtering it play it at the time ??? and if the machine is cutting them then no chance so it will be all HARAAM...
May ALLAH bless us with the wisdom of Islam and protect us from Haraam... (Amen)
Animals will be blessed by Muslims recommended and authorized by ISNA® or by its designated agent;
Any stunning shall be only to render the animal unconscious momentarily and is not to cause death. This is established by Agriculture Canada requirements and sworn to by the Veterinarian in charge for slaughter operations.
The animals are to be cut immediately after stunning to ensure bleeding time in excess of 90 seconds.
The Halal identification is to be monitored and strictly regulated to ensure it is affixed only to the products from the Zabiha animals.
ISNA® is to have the right of access to the business premises without prior notice to ensure that the requirements are being adhered to.
Any Halal certification shall be limited to only the Halal operations and not a blanket certification of all meat producing operations.
will terminate the Halal certification if the producer fails to make its products Halal.
Interesting... Hmmm well this is simple... The recorded msg cant be a takbeer for each animal..
on the other hand... Did the person who record it do the NIYYAT of slaughtering 1000 or 1 million chickens or an UNKNOWN NUMBER of chickens ??
and how can you do a NIYYAT for an egg that is going to be laid by a chicken a week later and then it will grow up as chicken after 30 days...
you dont even know that the person slaughtering the chicken is full of NIYYAT.. and 1 thing more... Non-Muslims do not believe on Takbeer... they just cut down the Shah-Ragg...
and at-last.. lets believe if the recorded takbeer is ok to prove it halal..but do you know that the person slaughtering it play it at the time ??? and if the machine is cutting them then no chance so it will be all HARAAM...
May ALLAH bless us with the wisdom of Islam and protect us from Haraam... (Amen)
**Thanks for graciously answering me, May Allah give you it's reward
Machine slaughtered meat should not be designated halaal. Its not just that the right words are being said. The method of slaughter makes a difference. Goal is to cut the jugular and let the blood drain, not an outright chopping.
Machine slaughtered meat should not be designated halaal. Its not just that the right words are being said. The method of slaughter makes a difference. Goal is to cut the jugular and let the blood drain, not an outright chopping.
Machine slaughter halal does cut the jugular only. The chickens are left hanging for the blood to pump out. Their website says
At the point of slaughter, a highly accurate, rotary knife blade precisely severs the respiratory tract, esophagus, jugular vein and arteries, leaving the head attached.
The spinal cord is left undamaged and the nervous system still unharmed to ensure that compete bleeding out takes place.
A backup Muslim slaughterer is always on hand, ensuring that there is never a gap in the live blessings, and that every bird is accurately slaughtered.
That's truly impossible for a machine to do all that exactly on each chicken. If that's the case then why do we need surgeons. Why not have machines operate on your neck?
You'd be supposing that the anatomy is exactly the same for every chicken, neck width the same, such that the depth of the incision would be exact on every chicken. With the neck being aligned in identical positions without the chicken squawking about. Sure.
You'd be supposing that the anatomy is exactly the same for every chicken, neck width the same, such that the depth of the incision would be exact on every chicken. With the neck being aligned in identical positions without the chicken squawking about. Sure.
The chicken isn't squawking about, Canandian law requires that both machine and hand-slaughtered animals must be stunned senseless first.
In most western countries, as far as I know machines are used for slaughtering animals (including halal ones). The biggest export market of Australian Halal meat is the Middle East. Wallah o Alam bisawab. If there is option between hand slaughter and the machine one, one should go for the former.