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Kia fazool ki dramy bazi hai. You girls cannot talk logically and defend your feminism thus resort to emotional torture or victimization.
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its a tough world out there MWAP. if u dont victimize...u become a victim.
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Listen my feminist guppans,
its a tough world out there for everyone,
if you are not a victim as a woman, than you are victim in may other ways,
Be it Muslim, Pakistani or just a human being,
It is tough and we all go through it,
not just women, so
chill out, be thankful for what you have,
do not let it consume you.
:)
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listen my fiesty guppies
what we have today is thanks to the "feminists" that fought for this years ago
if they had been "just thankful for what they had" we would not have had what we have today
and since we want our children to have even better lives than us....the struggle must begin in our own lives
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in Quran o hadees All phases of life shows clearly
if u know islmaic point of views about the Namehram ..then there is no confusion about it that its Sin .
islam teachs us leagal and clear ways about marrige stuff ..
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she began to like him and made plan with him,
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as a muslim we beleive that big and perfect planner is only Allah ... n our all plans exist if we follow Sharya laws ...
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to be married to him and live happily ever after
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if our planings break shariya Law,s then how some one thinks that he or she live happily ever after ? didnt they belive on punishment day ?
Allah says to his ibaaad in hadees-e-qudsee
agar tu nay khilaaf kia us kay jo mere chahat hay
to main thaka doon tujh ko us main jo tere chahat hay
phir ho ga to wohee jo mere chahat hay
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listen my fiesty guppies what we have today is thanks to the "feminists" that fought for this years ago if they had been "just thankful for what they had" we would not have had what we have today and since we want our children to have even better lives than us....the struggle must begin in our own lives
No we don't....those rights have been talked about since biblical times. All major religions have talked about it. Just because a government does not care about its people, does not mirror into men hate women or men want to oppress women.
Struggle within lives is an interesting point, but you have to understand every life and person is different. Improvement can only be described in the sense of respect rather job or any sort of independence.
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No we don't....those rights have been talked about since biblical times. All major religions have talked about it. Just because a government does not care about its people, does not mirror into men hate women or men want to oppress women..
true. but that does not change what I said. Alot of the things we have (or dont have) is due to the struggle (or lack thereof) of our predecessors.
Struggle within lives is an interesting point, but you have to understand every life and person is different. Improvement can only be described in the sense of respect rather job or any sort of independence.
independence and freedom are very valuable. maybe you dont know its value because you are born into it.
yes there are different people out there with different priorities (that is the whole point!) and if someone is happy leading their life a certain way why should anyone else care?
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If you leave people alone they are not going to bother you, but if you are constantly blaming them just because a part of body than there is problem. We should be thankful to our predecessors who are both male and female, so why the anger just for one particular gender?
With Independence and freedom come responsibilities. I think all of us are born into it, however there are some unfortunates where government, laws and age old rituals bound them to slavery life. This is just not for women only, men go through them too. How about fighting for those rights as together rather blaming just one gender?
I have no problem if someone choose to believe what he/she believes. Live their life according to what they think and their rationality, but problem occurs when you put someone in a light of "guilty until proven innocent". How about judge everyone as a clean slate for a change?
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if our planings break shariya Law,s then how some one thinks that he or she live happily ever after ? didnt they belive on punishment day ?
because Quran and hadeeth for some people are only fairy tales and they fail to apply where it is needed by accusing others of double standard, just because a right thing was passed to them. What will Allah do? He will do what he has ordained or will He listen to the following?
& do not ever miscontrue Islam and its teachings, or quarinc verses and hadits, to take a hike from double standards of bad kind of males.
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If you leave people alone they are not going to bother you, but if you are constantly blaming them just because a part of body than there is problem. We should be thankful to our predecessors who are both male and female, so why the anger just for one particular gender?
With Independence and freedom come responsibilities. I think all of us are born into it, however there are some unfortunates where government, laws and age old rituals bound them to slavery life. This is just not for women only, men go through them too. How about fighting for those rights as together rather blaming just one gender?
I have no problem if someone choose to believe what he/she believes. Live their life according to what they think and their rationality, but problem occurs when you put someone in a light of "guilty until proven innocent". How about judge everyone as a clean slate for a change?
omg all these assumptions! i hope you meant that as a general statement and not an attack on me because Im really not those people that think all men are evil and all women are angels.
being a feminist has nothing to even do with hating men but trying to achieve a more harmonious state for both genders. i think many misunderstand to a great degree.
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I am not judging you. This is the premise of feminism. "Women are good, men guilty until proven innocent". That is the only beef I have with feminists and you know that is what they talk about. If they want to achieve rights than I am with them, but lately that is not their goal.
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shweetdreamz nay Farmaayaa:
**omg **
laikin apnaY hairaan honaY par koi smiley naheeN banaai
**all these assumptions! **
she assumed herself that he was talking about her.
i hope you meant that as a general statement and not an attack on me
attack on a member/team member? Trolling 
Warn him…
because
Wrong use of conjucntion.
** Im really not those people **
How many people are you? Are you a group on your own?
**that think **
Breaking News!!!
all men are evil and all women are angels.
kitni buri baat hai
**being a feminist **
Is there anything called musculinist? If not, why a word for females.. I object.. We demand equal rights…
**has nothing to even do with hating men **
Sub yehi kehtaY haiN
but trying to achieve a more harmonious state for both genders.
For example, giving birth to child and bearing monthly cycles?
i think many misunderstand to a great degree.
I guess so too.. otherwise, women need not to get married at all and so do the men.
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I am not judging you. This is the premise of feminism. "Women are good, men guilty until proven innocent". That is the only beef I have with feminists and you know that is what they talk about. If they want to achieve rights than I am with them, but lately that is not their goal.
you are wrong. women that fight for other women's rights are not all men haters. they are able to stay single or remain in happy stable relationships while holding strongly to their views.
at the same time some HAVE had bad experiences with men and therefore make the mistake of judging all men.
and then there are women and men out there who just cannot maintain stable relationships and that is due to their own inability to maintain a relationship. they might cling to feminism/masochism as their justification but they do more harm than good.
AQ: i see you're having fun playing "tear-the-sentence-apart". if i was talking in real-life and you interrupted me like that after every two words you'd have two missing front teeth.:)
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Feminism@WWE
Ask Nimko who would have front teeth missing at the end of the day 
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i think its fine as long as u only found him and have desire 2 get married 2 him n u r not actually having any kind of relationship with him b4 marriage...if u know what i mean....if it is done in a respectable way than thats fine but one shud definately let their families know abt it so they can arrange it for u guys or wateva......good luck!
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you are wrong. women that fight for other women's rights are not all men haters. they are able to stay single or remain in happy stable relationships while holding strongly to their views. at the same time some HAVE had bad experiences with men and therefore make the mistake of judging all men. and then there are women and men out there who just cannot maintain stable relationships and that is due to their own inability to maintain a relationship. they might cling to feminism/masochism as their justification but they do more harm than good.
I am sorry, but ONLY WOMEN do not fight for women's right. I can give you countless examples of men who shared numerous titles that helped shaped our humanity. Who basically help raising the status of women from just a "piece of meat" to an equal human being.
Feminists can not say that before them no one talked about women's right, no one asked for their well-being. They can also never claim to be the spokesperson for woman-hood. What I see them is they are mostly concerned writing articles and make sweeping statements and generalizations against men, culture, religion and anything or anyone that offers a counter argument.
People have bad relationships with parents, friends, growing up and other. Emotionally unstable is not a characteristic of gender rather psychological problem. We can not encourage or give a name for movement.
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we do not need countless examples anyway.. One example of Prophet:saw: himself is quite enough:)
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Agreed for all cases.
I myself am also trying but make alot of mistakes. May Allah bless us all with the wisdom and understanding of following the example of the Prophet (saw)Ameen
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for the first time in GS communication,
AQ, i feel extremely disappointed by what you said and how your thoughts reflected here in your embolded comments or sarcasm.
i did begin a talk on masculanism
perhaps you did not see it.
best,
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you are absolutely WRONG with this assumption.
I am not judging you. This is the premise of feminism. "Women are good, men guilty until proven innocent". That is the only beef I have with feminists and you know that is what they talk about. If they want to achieve rights than I am with them, but lately that is not their goal.