IS ISRAEL GOING TO ATTACK IRAN?

Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, is scheduled to arrive in Israel on Thursday for talks with Defense Minister Ehud Barak, Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz, and other senior defense and intelligence officials.
The visit comes as the United States attempts to coordinate with Israel on the issue of Iran’s nuclear capabilities, and to determine Israel’s intentions with regard to a possible attack on Iranian nuclear facilities.

MODS WHAT I WANT TO DISCUSS:D-Will israel attack iran?if in any case israel attacks iran,is iran capable to launch a great war like iran-iraq war?in my view israelis are afraid of iranian capablity to prolong a war for years…

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From long time they are waiting for a Green signal from USA and EU without that they are not even able to stay in region. War on iran may cause 3rd world war,it's seems Iran does not have a single ally but the region get wrost up down with this war.

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Yes, they will. and although the US does not have an appetite for another war, they will be dragged in to it. They are pleading (practically begging) with Israel not to attack (hence the toughest sanctions yet), but are planning for contingency plans all the same, because they know that they will most likely find out the next noon, like the rest of us...and then pretend they were in it all together.

hence the regular visits, to find out what tel aviv is up to, in a desperate attempt to 'co-ordinate.' Tel aviv on the other hand, is not satisfied with the sanctions, she wants blood and she wants it now..(2012). as the world is drastically changing, and it seems closing in on her.

The arab spring for example, closed many neighbourly doors for israel, that opened up for Iran. That is intolerable to Israel's long terms plans of occupation and expulsion. Iran is the biggest threat in her way due to their staunch support for palestine, hamas and hizbullah, both dire obstacles in their plans.

Recently however, they know that their game is almost up, as most nations and people are seeing through their lies. The UNESO vote on palestine was one of them, an eye opener to the fact that they are more and more isolated on the world stage.

Bibi's response was classic...paranoid and very bitter. They see those 'anti semites' (anti-israel) everywhere, especially in europe. Its probably on the rise in america as well, As no matter how big an influence they have on the media (read GOP debates and side lining of Ron paul). there's only so far their lies and americas veto can get them.

Yet as palestine is planning to join more UN agencies, america's influence will ultimately decrease. simply because of an Aipac sponsored clause, that passed straight through congress like a hot curry, resulting in the evident mess.

The motion detailed that any UN organisation that recognises or accepts palestine, will have US funding pulled immediately, even if going against US interests, and without any waiver power from the president. And that is exactly what happened! Americans officials were left wondering how they were to now wield their influence!

But as palestine aspires to be recognised by more and more UN agencies, as per the law, americas funding and influence will decrease simultaneously. Result? perhaps a more independent and balanced UN? perhaps the veto powers will diminish.

But Israel is not keen on that happening any time soon and believes she has nothing to lose at the moment in terms of international support. As i said, Bbi is seeing the world closing in on him.

On the other hand however, what most analysts and indeed intelligence agencies (CIA included) are saying, is that by attacking Iran and setting the region on fire, Israel has nothing much to lose, except that is, Israel itself.

With a high proportion of citizens with foreign passports as a safety net, and a higher proportion emigrating abroad than returning, it will not take much for them to up sticks and return to their respective countries.

If so, perhaps then, Ahmadinejaad's famous prophecy has become a self fulfilling one, albeit for Israel.

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I can't really see how any attack on Iran will escalate into WW3. IMO Israel will launch strategic air strikes on the supposed Uraninum enrichment sites, if they are successful this will setback the alleged Irani Nuclear weapon many years. Iran will not sit back and take that but a conventional war seems doubtful, simply because where would this war take place? Israel does not share a land border with Iran, and Israel or the West has nothing to gain by occupying Irani territory.
The way Iran will respond will be by increasing its support to anti Israel groups such as Hezbollah etc, and that in turn will mean the Palestinian Israel process will be set back further, and as a result the Palestinian people will suffer.

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israel got humiliated and lost to hezbollah which was a tiny militia in lebanon, you think they going to take on Iran hahaha nice joke.

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Xactly. Israel was humiliated in limited war with hezbollah so Israel has no chance. And attacking Iran would further escalate the whole region into full fledged war. So, Israel might attack Iran and drag US into this war with them. Because it would be stupid for Israel to take on Iran themselves.

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I very strongly suggest to read three part facts about how Hizbullah defeated Terrorist State of Israel.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/others/hezbollah.html

PART 1
The intelligence war
The Israeli government violated the first principle of war - it showed contempt for its enemy, Hezbollah, and the resulting intelligence failure during its July campaign was catastrophic. It meant that, after the inability of Israel’s air campaign to degrade Hezbollah assets in the first 72 hours of the war, a decisive victory for Israel became highly unlikely. This left Israel with no alternative but to invade Lebanon with ground troops in the hope of destroying Hezbollah’s will to prevail.

PART 2
The ground war
Israel’s call up of reservists was the first clear sign that its air strikes against Hezbollah had not been successful. Then came false claims of towns captured and battles won, and the indiscriminate use of cluster munitions. By any accounting - whether in rockets, armored vehicles or numbers of dead and wounded - Hezbollah scored a decisive military and political victory.

PART 3
The political war
The aftermath of the Israel-Hezbollah war will be felt for years, not months, and has redrawn the political map throughout the Middle East, not just in Israel and Lebanon. And the upshot of it all is that if and when the US attacks Iran, it will lose.

Since then Hizb has gone from strength to strength adding more deadly weapons to its arsenal… There is another great analysis, if Jews use WMD so close to home they will backfire and still not achieve their objectives..

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Though it wasn't a cakewalk like the 1982 beirut invasion vs. PLO, I don't think Israel completely lost as UN observers have been deployed which do monitor hizbollah and lebanon would be wary of another air war with israel.

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At the beginning of the way, IDF commanders had said tht it will be a week at max before the reach Beirut thru south Lebanon...........guess what......it was 5 weeks and a 120 Israeli soldiers and many civilians later they were only retreating back to their own borders in defense...........
As for UN deployment....it is Israel tht should be worried abt them (not that they care) rather than Hezbollah.........Israelis left behind cluster bombs tht r exploding and causing death until today.........another medal to their long tally of bizarre violations........

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Latest update: Us and Israel latest military games have been cancelled (postponed) because they cant agree to a plan on Iran... decisions, ..decisions

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Who would support Iran in such a war? Syria signed a cooperation pact with Iran some years ago but at the moment they have problems of their own. Any attack would be limited to nuclear plants.

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Even if Strait of Hormuz is closed?!

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Who will close that? Iranis? They are dumb but not that dumb but maybe they are nutcases to do that and destroy their country from within. Maybe they're sleeping with the zionists. Who knows.

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Only fools under estimate Israeli power. They are singularly superior to any country in the middle east. They are no push overs.

Also lol @ them losing the Lebanese war against Hezbollah.

Israel vs Iran. Clear victor will be Israel. Superior training and weaponry in every aspect of a war.

Iran is not strong enough to close the Strait of Hormuz. All they can do is attack shipping. Uncle Sams 5th Navy fleet alone could deal with whole of Iranian Navy.

Sorry to kill egos here but people please practical. The only way Israel can be defeated if the Muslim countries of the ME join together to attack with coordination.

However, who remember the Yom Kippur war or the 6 day war. Yes, Israel vs 5 Arab countries. Arabs were defeated quite easily.

Arabs = can not fight to save their lives = stick to building Palaces.

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u shud then ‘lol’ the commission tht was formed by the Israeli govt itself to investigate the war…u can read the summary of the report by NY time here…http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/world/middleeast/31winograd-web.html

“According to the Winograd Commission Report, the Second Lebanon War was regarded as a “missed opportunity” and that “Israel initiated a long war, which ended without a defined military victory”. The report continued to state that “a semi-military organization of a few thousand men resisted, for a few weeks, the strongest army in the Middle East, which enjoyed full air superiority and size and technology advantages”. Furthermore, Hezbollah’s rocket attacks continued throughout the war and the IDF did not provide an effective response to it. Following a long period of using standoff fire power and limited ground activities, the IDF launched a large scale ground offensive close to the UN Security Council’s resolution which imposed a cease-fire. “This offensive did not result in military gains and was not completed”.”

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Look these UN commisssion talk a lot of bubbles. Wow, it wasnt a full on victory. They killed 1000+ People in lebanon and lost 100+ Which in itself was a victory. It’s the same agencies which allow Israel flout international law.

Its quite clear you lack many things including historical knowledge, Do you really think Israel wouldn’t be able to defeat Hezbollah if it decided to fully invade Lebanon? Lebanese army were idol during bombing of Beirut albeit their power projection is lacking as militia are most powerful.

Point of the story is if Israel utilised its full resources it would wipe the floor with any country in the ME.

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no1 in their right mind will believe tht Iran has a chance against the US or Israel in conventional warfare…what Iran is capable of is powerful and effective asymmetric warfare…

As for ur comments on Iran’s ability of closing Hormuz, see the following article that quotes Editor of National Defense magazine, Igor Korotchenko, saying “Considering that the Strait of Hormuz is quite shallow and has only two narrow navigational channels, it would not be a challenge at all to block the strategic pass, especially with Iran’s experience in mine-laying operations.” Iran Wars Episode 1: The gulf menace — RT World News

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dude, that was a commission set by Israeli government b/c all the parents of dead ppl had camped outside political offices demanding inquiry into the war!!!!!! and nobody is saying it was a "full blown victory"......u r either seeing things or lost for concrete things to say......

Your 2nd point is not even worth commenting on........its akin to saying "wudn't US have been able to destroy the whole Vietnam/Afghanistan/Iraq by one press of a button, so they won the war".........results of military campaigns r not decided tht way but they r viewed in the light of objectives set VS objectives achieved..........

btw Israel had close to 30,000 thousand soldiers involved in the war by the last few days!..........please read the war analysis by the Asia Time someone provided above.......

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No country is dumb enough too have a nuclear war...

-DP

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Do you know even know what asymmetric warfare is? You seem to be taking quotes out of online links yet not understanding the overall impact of such a action could be!

Regardless of how shallow the waters are do you think the gulf countries are going to allow Iran to close it? Iran is surrounded by US backed forces. All the US needs to do is start shelling/bombing Iranian ports. The economic consequence alone with put Iran to it’s knees. You think too highly of an Iranian army that in my opinion got slaughtered by an Iraqi Army in the 80’s. There weapons are below grade or soviet produced which is mostly junk as the Russians won’t share high end tech with anyone. Aside from India perhaps.

IRAN HAS NO CHANCE. IT WILL NEVER RISK CLOSING THE STRAIT.