Given the fact that it was propounded by people who had no knowledge of Islam and were merely trying to capitalise on the changing political situation. E.g. Maudoodey, who was a cheap journalist, knew feck-all about Islamic jurisprudence, and put together a jumble of ideas to form his ideology of Islamism. He opposed Pakistan’s creation, but once it was created he shifted office to Lahore to begin poisoning the constitutional deliberations.
How can we tolerate such people?
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Islamism was a good idea but probably not well-recieved.Trouble is muslims cannot overcome their cultural and linguistic differences to think like one ummah that is why we are in this situation.
Maulana Mahudoodi's book "khilafat aur malookiat" is a very bold revisionist account of islamic history,his opposition to pak was due to the fact that he did not want the muslims of india divided.
Iqbal was right to proclaim that the very concept of nationalism is the death of the ummah(or something like that i cant remember the exact verse)
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do you mean to discuss "Islamism" in subcontinent/Pakistan or as whole?
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mainly in subcontinent and Pakistan
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What exactly is Islamism?
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This should help
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism
also the differences b/w orthodox sunnis and wahabis are give in this article(scroll down)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism
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Thanks for the link. Quickly skimmed through some of it get the general idea.
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mod muslims only hate maududi because he said islam should be the ONLY source of law in a country for it to be called islamic. he said that on the earth of Allah, ONLY the law of Allah deserved to be implemented. he said that not ruling by the sharia of Muhammad SAW was doing kufr with the message with which he was sent with. and thats the only reason mod muslims hate him. the mod muslims want the law of kuffar to rule this earth because they actually detest islam and want kufr to become stronger. they want the law of allah to be shelved because they dont actually believe in Allah but just pay lip service because they fear if they say what is in their hearts, the people will recognize their kufr.
verily they are disbelievers because they have told the kuffar that they will follow them in part of the matter such as legislation and follow islam in part of the matter such as ritual prayers.
Verily, those who have turned back (have apostated) as disbelievers after the guidance has been manifested to them, Shaitân (Satan) has beautified for them (their false hopes), and (Allâh) prolonged their term (age). (Muhammad 47:25)
This is because they said to those who hate what Allâh has sent down: “We will obey you in part of the matter,” but Allâh knows their secrets. (Muhammad 47:26)
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Strong words indeed ! Maulana Moudaiudi should be respected no doubt but I dont think that those that disagree with his views are apostates!
A lot of opposition against implementing the sharia not only by the “modern moslems” whatever that means, but also from the feudals.The Pious caliphs used to lead humble lives and did not go to sleep until the last cent from the baytulmal was sent to the rightful owner.I donot think that is what our ruling classes had in mind when pakistan was created and that is why probably Maulana opposed its creation.
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Cheap journalist?
Have you read his work? Definitely not.
Tolerance is in islam.
Islamism is not an Islamic term. It is created by the people who have no idea about Islam and see islam from a distance.
What Islamic view close to this term is Shariah implemented by Khalifahs immediately after the prophet. (PBUH)
Off course Shariah needs some addition and sbtraction to keep pace with changing world but essentials must reamain same.
But thats not what the intent of thread is. Its about bashing people who wanted shariah in Pakistan being an Islamic state. (No its not created as a ‘secular’ country’ )
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far easier than tolerating ppl like u… 
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people like me rule Pakistan. believe me, the tolerance is one-way only.
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Maududi said that apostates from Islam must be killed. He also said that the Head of State or Government can never be a woman, that all political parties not conforming to Islamism must be banned. The result of Maududi is the MMA thuggery clan.
People should read his "Islam mein Murtadd ki sazaa" (Punishment of the Apostate in Islam) to see how evil this beast was.
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^ he just repeated what the Prophet (saw) said....
if u r hot happy with the above then u shud have issues with Muhammad (saw) and Islam more than maududi....
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so armughal what you say is Islam never advocates a women head of a state?
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or that it advocates killing apostates?
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^ if u dont reject hadith, u will find the above issues addressed by maududi very well to be in accordance with the teachings of Islam....
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you must have picked it up in Bahrain.
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i disagree with a lot of his theories regarding elections and politics too. so never did i mean that no disagreement with him is allowed. but those who disagree with him regarding islam being a total way of life that encompasses all aspects of a social life of a muslim those people are apostates because thats not from his own judgement, but agreement from all ulama throughout the history of islam. islam can not be seperated into rituals and social laws. islam is all or none. if you reject the obligation of salah all ulama agree you become kafir, and thus if some one rejects some aspect of islamic social law then they become apostates too. (like saying i dont think theives should have their hands cut, its too barbaric. its denial of allah’s laws and calling them unjust, which is KUFR akbar). wallah o alam.
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a begger who steals food because the govt has failed to bridge the divide between the have and have-nots and a wealthy person who steals money out of greed do they commit the same crime?
No punishment which was decreed by the Holy Prophet(PBUH) can be “barbaric” whether cutting hands or any other part.If people think that they are barbaric or primitive than it is their problem.