Is their nuclear program soley to support a civilian energy program or are they developing nuclear weapons? This is differnt from Mr. Fraudia’s thread in that I’m not questioning their right to do so, just trying to determine if they are big fat liars or not. Many who are so enamored by this autocratic, oppressive regime seem to think they are telling the truth when they say they have no plans to develop weapons.
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I don't doubt it. According to Machiavelli, the logical thing to do is to develop a nuclear weapons programme at all costs even if it means lying through your teeth.
Indeed, most polls by European press in Iran reveal very strong support for an Iranian nuke.
Russia and China are not naive either. Their involvement and extensive support of Iran means that they are backing the Iranian bomb project as part of their stated aim of creating a multipolar world. Their claims and commitment toward Iran's "civilian nuclear energy programme" is also the correct Machiavellian action needed to achieve their goal.
I personally have full confidence that the current and future regimes of Iran are responsible enough to have nuclear arms. Ever since 1980 Iran's foreign policy has been conducted in a rational manner; with Iran taking no actions that could possibly lead to major retaliation against it.
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My guess is that they are not making Nuclear Weapons....
Making Nukes will bring them nothing but isolation even from Russia and China...
Iran cannot threaten anyone with Nuclear Weapons because its two great Enemies, Israel and USA also possess Nuclear Weapons and if Iran uses Nuclear Weapons it will mean the eradication of Iran.
If Iran gives Nuclear Weapons to Hezbollah, it will mean the same thing...
I think Iran is making Nuclear Power Plants for Energy to modernize it self but doesnt want to bow down to pressure.
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I disagree. Iran wants nuclear weapons to augment its military so as to enable it to become the dominant military power, and thus political power, of the Persian Gulf region. In doing so it seeks Shia leadership of the wider Muslim world.
Also, on a more sectarian note, an Iranian nuclear bomb would be a Shia nuke to rival what is effective Pakistan's Sunni nuke. Pakistan's extensive ties to Iran's primary Sunni regional rival cough*Saudi*cough necesitate this.
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Is Iran developing a clandestine nuclear weapons program?
YES, definately somewhere on the iranian agenda. Although this can be policed very easily without any major sanctions, wars or fuss.
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The question is not IF but WHEN, its just a matter of time. Iran has far more resources than India, Pak and NK plus a nation that is solidily united in its quest for noooclar power.
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yea...Iran having nuclear weapons is about as likely as Iraq having WMD's!!!!
All facts indicate that they do not!! have the tecnology to develop nuclear weapons!!! they are ages away from any such technology!!!
its war propaganda!!! much like the propaganda before the invasion of iraq!
hitler back in the days of nazi germany used to have a dept. in his administration for propaganda. I think either him or his propagandaist said something to the effect of....if u feed people a lie in small doses, at some point they will come to believe it as the truth!!
in any event! Iran is very committed to not proliferating nuclear weapons. Thats been thier policy, I think they are a great nation for it. I hope they remain committed to it, infact i highly doubt, given the facts, that they will have nuclear weapons anytime int eh near future!!
Please learn to see past the propaganda!!! the lies and the deciet! they do not have nuclear weapons! they are a party to the NPT! which niether pakistan, not india nor israel signed! they signed it b/c they intended not to proliferate, and i think they will hold true to thier committments!
so much is being spent on propaganda in Iran! the Us gov't has spent and continues to spend million of dollars for propagand in Iran! i.e. spreading propaganda through local irani organizations and medi etc. so be weary!!! of it!
i dont have any doubts that the US and its allies in these awful bigoted wars! are vying for Iran to breach its obligations under the NPT - so they have a reason to attack! not to mention having one nuclear weapons is retarded, and i think the Irani's are smart enough to recognize that. so its really not worth it at all!!!! for them to make nukes! not at all!!!
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There was "no doubt" that Iraq had WMD, now there is no doubt that Iran is trying to make WMD...wake up to reality!!!
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even if iran made a nuke so what?
unlike iraq, iran wants to preserve and spread shiaism....
they wont be able to do that if they give nukes to hezbollah or fire them at israel which would mean the end of shiaism because Iran will be turned into a cinder
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unlike iraq, iran wants to preserve and spread shiaism....
they wont be able to do that if they give nukes to hezbollah or fire them at israel which would mean the end of shiaism because Iran will be turned into a cinder
israel dont have the balls to stay in that heat! killing muslims is on the israelli agenda but if a barrel was facing them you'd see seriously wet pants and willingness to compromise like never before.
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yes, there is no need for an oil and gas rich country for nuclear power.
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Absolutely they want a bomb.
The real question is how long it would take them to threaten Israel with it. Days, weeks or months.
By the way, is Pakistan downwind from Iran? You guys would not mind say Balochistan being uninhabitable for a decade or two right? A few mutant Pakistani kids? A huge neighbor turned to glass should not hurt your economy any right? A decade or two of economic depression in your region is not nearly as important as Islamic Pride, right?
God bless AQ Khan for giving the Mullahs some buttons to press. A huge boost to the stability of the world. The more bombs the better right?
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It's impossible for Iran to even be able to make nukes for at least 10 years...I'm just going to with the democrat who wins the next presidential election...and see how he or she handles it, unless of course the same characters who were involved in the cold war and this war r still holding positions of power, you know Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld.
Israel is the number 1 terrorist country, I don't know why they don't make them disarm their nukes, and WMD's...O wait...the U.S. provided them with them. I mean if only Israel wud pull out of all the land thas not theirs, most of the problems wud be solved.
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killing muslims is not israel's agenda
but killing jews is on the arab and iranian agenda
as for Israel, you are right, they are not gonna sit by and let Iran make nukes
but the problem is only USA can strategically bomb Iran and its nuclear facilities and Israel lacks the naval assets to do that such as the US Air Craft Carriers and B-52 Bombers and even Tactical Nukes
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The real question is how long it would take them to threaten Israel with it. Days, weeks or months.
By the way, is Pakistan downwind from Iran? You guys would not mind say Balochistan being uninhabitable for a decade or two right? A few mutant Pakistani kids? A huge neighbor turned to glass should not hurt your economy any right? A decade or two of economic depression in your region is not nearly as important as Islamic Pride, right?
God bless AQ Khan for giving the Mullahs some buttons to press. A huge boost to the stability of the world. The more bombs the better right?
Ahmedinijad has a big mouth....
He is not going to risk the destruction of his country and Shiaism over the Palestinians
What USA should do is this.....
USA should tell China and Russia, you guys think that Iran is not making nukes, fine, but if it does make Nukes, USA, China and Russia will all launch a joint attack on Iran to disarm it....
If you are so sure if its not making nukes, then you wouldn't mind signing off to this agreement...
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but killing jews is on the arab and iranian agenda
as for Israel, you are right, they are not gonna sit by and let Iran make nukes
but the problem is only USA can strategically bomb Iran and its nuclear facilities and Israel lacks the naval assets to do that such as the US Air Craft Carriers and B-52 Bombers and even Tactical Nukes
keep your feet on the ground
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What USA should do is this.....
USA should tell China and Russia, you guys think that Iran is not making nukes, fine, but if it does make Nukes, USA, China and Russia will all launch a joint attack on Iran to disarm it....
If you are so sure if its not making nukes, then you wouldn't mind signing off to this agreement...
I agree....BUT the evidence for that shud be from joint intelligence not just USA, however I don't think USA or at least the current administration would agree to such a deal. I mean honestly the current administration has the mentality that whatever it says it must be true, I mean its makes more of faith-based decision instead of fact-based decisions, not to mention USA intelligence lacks credibility i.e. Iraq.
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who decides; who needs the bombs and who doesn’t ?
We have a UNO, the official world police (or negotiator - whatever) 
Go there and file a complaint. Dont take Qanoon in your own hands.
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Anyone who believes Iran should have the bomb is in the same school as the neoconservatives and we have seen their doomed policy in real life unfold.
Unfortunately any nuclear program from Iran that might have been at one time researching for peaceful purposes has evolved into a weapons program. The green light from Russia and China allowed this to occur combined with the declaration by W. Bush that Iran was a "axis of evil" in January of 2002, and the Muslim rally around Iran as the new savior against 'western oppression' has propelled them to go forward.
May diplomatic efforts be successful or the the later half of 2008 will be a devastating one and the year before it uncomfortable.
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Can anybody be bigger liar then america.? come on their own internal reports r not honest… Its not only Bush dishonest and liars its in the blood of the entire government.
Tell me one truth ful thing which have come out of their mouth in last 6 yrs.?