Is India a failed State? or India is a failed State?

Well, one of the key responsibility of a state is to meet the minimum requirements for its citizens… I leave minimum requirements to you howver you decide…

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Is India a failed State?

On almost all parameters, developmental and otherwise, and for all its modernisation pretensions, India falls into that shameful category, along with Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan-the faltering State

Mohan Guruswamy Delhi

The term “failed state” entered our lexicon, initially, in the context of Somalia, Afghanistan, and now, increasingly, for Iraq. State authority and power are often confused as being the same. Authority derives from constitutional legitimacy and respect for the institutions such as the judiciary, Parliament, permanent bureaucracy, and the press, whereas power is really the power to coerce and enforce the will of the State. Authority is abstract while power is physical.

This is not to say that in a failed state the power to coerce or enforce does not exist. In Somalia, there are more guns in the hands of the various warring clans than a legitimately constituted state would have ever required. Ditto for Afghanistan. Ditto for Iraq. In these countries, the symbols of statehood are much in evidence. There is a currency and people trade with each other. Goods are imported and exported. Services like electricity, water, and transport are still available. Schools and courts function. There is even foreign representation. Somalia, Afghanistan, and Iraq have embassies in New Delhi.

Yet, we call them failed States because the people who call the shots, or more often fire the shots, are without any constitutional, legal, moral, divine, or civilisational authority. They are in a state in which societies existed before the advent of the modern state. That they are nationalities or even States is not in doubt, but the point is that they have failed to be states where constitutional authority reigns and power does not grow from the barrel of a gun.

In mediaeval times, the State mainly existed to enrich the king and the durbar, and increase their power and area of domination. Not so the modern State, implicit in which is that the State is tasked with not only providing order, but also improving living standards and transform society. Thus, while the ability to provide order is important, to judge whether a state has failed or only partially passed, one has to judge it by the other broad parameters. India is certainly not in the Somalia league. It is not even in the Pakistan league, where the internal situation is so appalling that many western observers have taken to calling it a failed State.

Yet our own performance is not something we can be proud of. Jammu and Kashmir, Bihar, Jharkhand, Chhattisgarh, Nagaland, Manipur, Assam, and significant parts of Uttar Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh are anarchic. Even in the states where we consider there is some order, what is the record of the police? Recorded crime in Delhi was up by 55 per cent last year. In Mumbai and Delhi, the police have had to resort to extralegal methods, euphemistically called “encounters”, to curb criminals. The press and society, generally, laud this, not realising that such activities have a tendency to go out of hand and start devouring the innocent. Instead of exposing the essential criminality of a Rajbir Singh of the Delhi Police or Daya Naik in Mumbai, the media entertains us with stories of their unidirectional close encounters. We never hear of a policeman getting even a scratch in these encounters.

Only about a third of major crimes like murder and dacoity are solved, and less than 10 per cent end with convictions. On a more mundane level, not many people stop at red lights anymore. At the half-year point, nearly 800 persons have perished in Delhi from automobile-related accidents. It has been a steep descent from Sardar Patel I to Sardar Patel II, and then some more now.

The institutions from which our State should derive authority are in a poor way. The quality of justice, particularly in our lower courts, is suspect. Cases are routinely rigged. There is the case of Sanjay Dutt, a man caught with two AK-47 assault rifles, and he is set to be excused because his late father wanted it. More importantly, Shiv Sena boss Bal Thackeray wanted it. In Kashmir or Manipur, just the possession of such lethal weapons will invite an “encounter”. Not just this, Sanjay Dutt gets to have dinner with former prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee in New York.

The “party with a difference” had as a Member of Parliament (MP) a person who has been “acquitted” of the (unsolvable) murder of the husband of the woman he now openly lives with. Another Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) MP has been known to be an associate of the Dawood Ibrahim gang that set off the Mumbai bomb blasts.
One cannot turn to the courts for justice, although there is a growing tendency to do so. Several million cases clog the higher courts, which has had a devastating impact on orderly civil and commercial transactions. Delays in justice routinely lead to broken contracts and agreements. Even the State has joined in exploiting this. Witness the manner in which government departments and companies routinely hang on to properties where the leases have long expired. In fact, it is so accepted a practice that not to do it is to invite suspicion. We have created a system which encourages distrust. It is small wonder, then, that after politics, law is the most lucrative profession.

A friend who lives in Haryana was recently relating a harrowing story of how he had to pay an inspector of police to get a case of theft registered. It is not surprising that common people without the wherewithal to get expensive and slow justice seek other avenues. In Mumbai, they go to godfathers like Arun Gawli Member of the Legislative Assembly; in western UP, they go to the caste panchayat; in Bihar, they go the caste mafia leader; and in Telangana and Bastar, they go to the Peoples War. The supreme irony is that more often the quality of justice delivered by the informal system is considered to be superior to that offered by the Constitutional legal system. Even policemen seem to prefer them.

Corruption is so well entrenched and accepted that one is not required to dwell upon it. The phrase “to enjoy power” has acquired an entirely different dimension. The critical thing is that no action of the State, however highly placed the decision-maker, escapes suspicion. Corruption, as Indira Gandhi once self-servingly pointed out, is a worldwide phenomenon. Compared to the scale on which the Suharto, Marcos, and Bhutto families prospered, the activities of the Narasimha Rao and Vajpayee families, real or adopted, were small change. They can even be condoned as inevitable and a small price to pay in a country where sycophancy and flexible notions of morality are inherent cultural traits.

But the record of the Indian State in improving the living standards of the majority of its people is abysmal. India languishes among the bottom five of the World Bank’s annual Development Report. Almost 70 per cent of the Indian nation lives below a poverty line that would factor in balanced diet, shelter, access to education and healthcare, and basic civic amenities. Nearly 60 per cent of Indians are illiterate. Infant mortality is 137 per 1,000 births. On all infrastructure indices we are well below — forget China — even that failed State, Pakistan! The Central government earmarks less for health and education than the cumulative pay raise the bureaucracy got last year — Rs 9,000 crore.

The State spends much more on the bureaucracy — a whopping Rs 170,000 crore for all Central and state government employees each year. That is a good 10 per cent of the Gross Domestic Product and is growing. The service sector is doing so well because public administration is growing at 11 per cent each year. If we remove this growth from the annual growth of 5-6 per cent, about which all our sarkari and pink paper economists crow, you will get a real growth much closer to the Hindu growth rate of 3 per cent we used to deride.

The bureaucracy has a self-serving methodology to determine poverty — 2,200 and 2,400 calories, respectively, for urban and rural areas. Given the rise
in foodgrains production and the State’s ability to make much smaller food subsidy investments, every successive regime is able to crow that poverty levels are coming down.

In Dr Manmohan Singh’s last year as finance minister, the government reported that poverty was down to 19 per cent, and tried to make us believe that its industrial liberalisation policies were percolating down. An Oxfam report and studies by leading economists like Suresh Tendulkar revealed that due to inflation and contraction of the economy in the initial years of “liberalisation”, simple economic logic says that poverty levels actually went up.

At that time, the BJP said that it would use more parameters to determine poverty. Such a step would have resulted in targeting poverty alleviation differently. Rather than focus on providing foodgrains, the State would also have to focus on education, health, water, work, transport, sewage, and so on. We would see more investments in the rural sector, where the war on poverty has ultimately to be waged. On the basis of this parameter, after 57 years as a modern state and with very clear non-realisation of the Founding Fathers’ dreams of a modernised state, we are clearly a failed State.

The failures of the first 50 years set out the task for the BJP, India’s first truly non-Congress government. When the BJP came to power, the Congress truly symbolised corruption, venality, and an uncaring leadership. But, instead of change, we got five more years of the same, the same monumental corruption, the same concentration of powers, the same uncaring attitudes to the real problems, the same kind of statism. Only, instead of a doting father, we now had a doting father-in-law. Liberalisation became Suhartoism instead of an all-encompassing reform process.

The two United Progressive Alliance budgets have made no significant alteration in the general direction of the previous decade. There is a decline of spending on critical sectors. The Central government spends less on agriculture and irrigation than on civil aviation. About 70 per cent of our people are dependent on agriculture, which accounts for 23 per cent of the Gross National Product, whereas there were only 12 million air-passengers last year.

Today, Delhi has the highest level of air pollution in the world. The Ganga is so polluted that health experts say that exposure of even a small wound to it will lead to infection. All urban, human, and industrial wastes flow into waterbodies, and thence into the groundwater or rivers. All over the country, groundwater tables are falling alarmingly as the State has abandoned its responsibilities to provide for water harvesting and irrigation.

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hmmm.....good retaliation,

i will just say my opinion. yes, many things have to be done. our economic growth will be averaging atleast 7% annually GDP wise atleast. Till now the development was more in southern india, now it is going towards north india.

Besides, government has to do a lot.

and there are serious problems like malnutrition etc. There are more cases of malnutrition in india than some african countries because of big population. The same way there are more 'poor' people in china than those african nations. should it mean that china is a failure?...no. the same way india is also not a failure....

But, government has to look into seriously towards basic infrastructure like education which recently the government allocated more funds towards it in its recent budget. There will be even more huge gaps between rich and poor in future. But that's inevitable i guess.

I am from a place which is close to bangalore.

Let me add, even bangalore has become polluted and saturated i guess. So companies have started looking at other cities also. So every major city stands to be benifitted i guess.

failure?...no. Success?..no. partially i guess.

But there is a huge challenge ahead to tackle which is 'solvable' according to me.

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Jammu and Kashmir, Bihar, Jharkhand, Chhattisgarh, Nagaland, Manipur, Assam, and significant parts of Uttar Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh are anarchic. Even in the states where we consider there is some order, what is the record of the police? Recorded crime in Delhi was up by 55 per cent last year. In Mumbai and Delhi, the police have had to resort to extralegal methods, euphemistically called "encounters", to curb criminals.


Additionally, Maoist rebels are controlling a significant section of India from west to east, which the Indian government has admitted now it is worst security threat since 1947.

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Thirteen Indian states meet as panic begins to spread over Maoist rebellion

For above comment, get more information from the above thread else where running.

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No India is not a failed state. Some people do wish it was, and they have been trying to make it a failed state, but I am really sorry for them. Instead if they used their time to progress their own country/society things would have been different for them too.
But its never too late to start.

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Things are changing in india. The growth rate for the last 4-5 years has been good. imo india can reach a growth rate of 10% in the next 6-7 years. Infrastructure is improving. Like the metro system they made in delhi. It is more time efficient and cleaner then the metros that i been to in NY, paris and london. New metro projects have started in mumbai, banglore. Things are improving. We need more privatisation. This will lead to faster growth.

The IT, pharmacy, automobile and tourism are the four sectors that are really gonna help india imo in the next 20 years. India will be a R&D hub by 2020.

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The writter of this thread by mistake replaced India with Pakistan.....
Too bad

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Sardaar ji, doesn’t matter. They seem to be insensitive to our pain…

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This guy Guruswamy seems to write without even referring to the facts.

So let us first examine the facts:

So let me correct items of the article:

Infant mortality is :

total: 54.63 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 55.18 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 54.05 deaths/1,000 live births (2006 est.)

Literacy:

total population: 59.5%
male: 70.2%
female: 48.3% (2003 est.)

Labour force:

agriculture: 60%
industry: 17%
services: 23% (1999)

Population below Poverty line:

25% (2002 est.)

If the author can blunder so heavily in numbers then his facts are completely wrong.

However, I will agree the author about the lawlessness and corruption in the country and I am not sure what the central government does about it.

For any of the figures that I stated above, please refer to the following link:

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/in.html

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Whatever it is, I do think that there will be a total system collapse in India sooner or later.

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India is not a failed state. But yes, its behind the develped world by say 20 years. Its fast catching up there.
Please wait and see.

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Tahir Bhatti, tussi kisdi side ho jee? You are a blot in the name of great bhatti rajputs of Pakistan.. looks like you are shifting to Indian side.. India failed tay barbad country hai..

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**Malnutrition: India beats sub-Saharan Africa

India has the highest number of malnourished children in the world, with Madhya Pradesh being the worst-affected state. About 47% of under-fives, numbering 57 million are underweight. Even sub-Saharan Africa is better off, where 33% of the children are malnourished. **These shocking figures have been revealed in Unicef’s Progress for Children: A Report Card on Nutrition, released globally on Tuesday. The worst-affected states in India are UP, Rajasthan, Orissa, Bihar and Maharastra. Over 50% of children in some of these states are malnourished. However, some Indian states maintaining high rates of nourishment among children include Goa, Kerala, Mizoram and Tamil Nadu. The report says 27% of children in South Asian countries - around 146 million - are to be underweight, many to a life-threatening degree. More than half these children live in just three countries - Bangladesh, India and Pakistan.

And the reason for South Asia’s pitiful performance - poor food quality, low social status of women and early marriage leading to low birth weight, bad quality hygiene and high rate of illiteracy. Speaking exclusively to TOI, a day before the release of the India section of the report card, Unicef India’s chief of child development and nutrition programme, Werner Schultink, said no other country was worse off than India in the case of malnourished children. “The causes for this are many: bad quality feeding, population density, high rate of infectious diseases, high rate of illiteracy among women, high prevalence of gender inequality, low rate of immunisation and high rate of birth of underweight babies,” he said. Schultink said it the fact that malnutrition had fallen from 70% in 1970s to 47% now is testimony to India’s commitment. He added that policymakers must realise that it does not take complicated interventions to make an important impact. All they have to do is ensure mothers feed newborns on breast milk for six months from birth, reduce infectious diseases, specially diarrhoea and malaria, counsel mothers on better infant care.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a…47,curpg-1.cms

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^^:k::jhanda:

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I have not seen any images from India like they come from Africa. The images of death, bony children and somalian and Ugandan kids.

WHO or UNICEF check the daily calorie intake and maybe Indian millions may be less nourished but not starving like the Africans.

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Wishful thinking. :D

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Billy

Your link did not work for me. However you I find many of the times your data is inaccurate. Here is what I found on the UNICEF web site and your report comparing India with Africa is somewhat hard to believe. Get into the UNICEF web site and try to generate the data. I did it for comparison and see the results

Under-5 mortality rate (2004)

China 31
India 85
Pakistan 101

Infant mortality rate (under 1) (2004)

China 26
India 62
Pakistan 80

Total adult literacy rate (2000-2004*)

China 91
India 61
Pakistan 49

http://www.unicef.org/view_chart.php?sid=a6cac91c0fa9cb463acbabb1229620d2&create_chart=Create+Table+>>&submit_to_chart=1&layout=1&language=eng

else try this link and generate your own graph:

http://www.unicef.org/statistics/index_step2.php?

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The link works fine, and the UNICEF report mentions that malnutrition in India is worse than sub-saharan Africa - check it out yourself. The UNICEF sites says the following:-

The picture in India

Malnutrition is more common in India than in Sub-Saharan Africa. One in every three malnourished children in the world lives in India. Malnutrition limits development and the capacity to learn. It also costs lives: about 50 per cent of all childhood deaths are attributed to malnutrition. In India, around 46 per cent of all children below the age of three are too small for their age, 47 per cent are underweight and at least 16 per cent are wasted. Many of these children are severely malnourished. The prevalence of malnutrition varies across states, with Madhya Pradesh recording the highest rate (55 per cent) and Kerala among the lowest (27 per cent). Malnutrition in children is not affected by food intake alone; it is also influenced by access to health services, quality of care for the child and pregnant mother as well as good hygiene practices. Girls are more at risk of malnutrition than boys because of their lower social status.

Malnutrition in early childhood has serious, long-term consequences because it impedes motor, sensory, cognitive, social and emotional development. Malnourished children are less likely to perform well in school and more likely to grow into malnourished adults, at greater risk of disease and early death. Around one-third of all adult women are underweight. Inadequate care of women and girls, especially during pregnancy, results in low- birthweight babies. Nearly 30 per cent of all newborns have a low birthweight, making them vulnerable to further malnutrition and disease. Vitamin and mineral deficiencies also affect children’s survival and development. Anaemia affects 74 per cent of children under the age of three, more than 90 per cent of adolescent girls and 50 per cent of women. Iodine deficiency, which reduces learning capacity by up to 13 per cent, is widespread because fewer than half of all households use iodised salt. Vitamin A deficiency, which causes blindness and increases morbidity and mortality among pre-schoolers, also remains a public-health problem.

http://www.unicef.org/india/nutrition.html

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More on the same issue.

Little India as starved as Ethiopia

India can boast of the second fastest growing economy in the world after China, but in terms of malnutrition among children, India today found itself ranked with Ethiopia. About 57 million children in India are malnourished and make up a third of the world’s 146 million undernourished children, said a new Unicef report released today. India’s child malnutrition rate of 47 per cent is the same as that in Ethiopia, it said. The report said South Asia has “staggeringly high” levels of underweight children and India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan together account for half of the world’s undernourished children under five. “Malnutrition is the underlying cause of half of the 2.1 million annual child deaths in India,” said Cecilio Adorna, Unicef’s representative in India. “It’s not the lack of food, but lack of knowledge that is hindering progress,” Adorna said.

According to Unicef, half of all children under the age of three in India are underweight and a quarter are born with a low birth weight. The report also said that one in three women in India is underweight and is therefore, at the risk of delivering babies with low weight. “Correct breast feeding and complementary feeding could have a huge impact,” Adorna said. Experts say malnutrition could be reduced by making available good maternal care, ensuring that infants are exclusively breast fed for the first six months, and adding complementary foods after six months while infants are still breast fed. While most infants in India are initially breast fed, only 37 per cent of infants are exclusively breast fed for four months. And, Unicef said, less than half the population follows good child care and feeding practices in India. Adorna said that while there is evidence in India of “strong political will and commitment” to tackle malnutrition, “the slip between the cup and the lip is implementation and accountability”. Malnutrition in India declined by an annual 0.8 per cent between 1992 and 1998. While the report has acknowledged this as “modest improvements”, it warned that the progress was “insufficient”. But several community-based projects, including one in Bengal, show that significant improvements are possible through appropriate collaborative efforts involving state governments and international agencies. The “Ken Parbo Na” project in Bengal, for instance, spread across four districts — South 24-Parganas, South Dinajpur, Murshidabad and Purulia — helped reduce malnutrition from 59 per cent to 48 per cent in three years. The project involved teaching mothers of malnourished children techniques to prepare complementary food and how to breast feed.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/106050…ry_6179729.asp

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Blinded by the realities.

http://www.indiatogether.org/2005/oct/chi-malnour.htm