I think men have to keep a beard to atleast a fist length.
talk about decency…posting links to nude pictures is not decency.
apple2005 just stated her opinion, she’s not forcing you to make your wife wear a niqab.
talk about decency.....posting links to nude pictures is not decency.
apple2005 just stated her opinion, she's not forcing you to make your wife wear a niqab.
sho .
talk about decency.....posting links to nude pictures is not decency.
apple2005 just stated her opinion, she's not forcing you to make your wife wear a niqab.
I am he not she... You made the same mistake what I made in my first post by calling you brother...
I don't know why there is no gender identification in this forum??
I am he not she... You made the same mistake what I made in my first post by calling you brother...
I don't know why there is no gender identification in this forum??
my bad.
Re: Is hijaab a farz?
So two police officer women in Nawbshah who have been just promoted to the post of Station House Officers should wear hijabs and not wear there uniform caps. They might as well go all the way and wear a burkha.
Re: Is hijaab a farz?
oops I just got in and see that some of you have had some misunderstandings already. Sorry, didn't mean for that to happen and I appreciate everyone's sincerity in trying to help.
You can bring other ahadith in favour of your argument but Still Qura'n doesn't say to common women to wear niqab.
I know it weren't salafis who came up with niqab and there are opinions for niqab in others schools except Hanafi.....but in Western societies it cannot be made obligatory and even in most muslim countries it cannot be made obligatory because of the norms where most women don't even dress up decently.
but in some places you have to wear niqab to follow the culture and norm so you don't attract the attention by showing your face where everyone is wearing niqab.
Also, the majority of muslims are hanafi and hanafis don't consider niqab an obligation.
This is my point.
Assalamalikum,
Careful with this assumption. I hope you have some facts to back this up? I am a devout follower of this school of thought. I have yet to come across an Ullema who has told me that Niqaab is not an obligation. Thats why I would like to hear your references first so I can assume some differences exist amongst the Hanafi Fuqahaa.
As for considering if Hijaab is fardh or not. Then one does not need to refer to anything else but the Quran.
Really the simplest way of understanding our religion is to look at what the Prophet pbuh propagated to the women of Mecca and Medina, and what his Sahabas' implemented as a rule in their own homes and cities.
Once you discover how important hijaab was for them. Then it doesn't matter what people say, what society tells you, you do what the Prophet pbuh and his Companions r.a. did. Its just that simple. Any advice we ask others is just a way to find an excuse from doing it.
If we don't do it, thats ok too, we should pray that we get the himmah to do so. Its not easy to wear a hijaab in today's day and age, however, if one has the conviction and firm faith in Allah swt. This simple act of modesty will go a long way inshAllah.
Assalamalikum,
Careful with this assumption. I hope you have some facts to back this up? I am a devout follower of this school of thought. I have yet to come across an Ullema who has told me that Niqaab is not an obligation. Thats why I would like to hear your references first so I can assume some differences exist amongst the Hanafi Fuqahaa.
As for considering if Hijaab is fardh or not. Then one does not need to refer to anything else but the Quran.
Really the simplest way of understanding our religion is to look at what the Prophet pbuh propagated to the women of Mecca and Medina, and what his Sahabas' implemented as a rule in their own homes and cities.
Once you discover how important hijaab was for them. Then it doesn't matter what people say, what society tells you, you do what the Prophet pbuh and his Companions r.a. did. Its just that simple. Any advice we ask others is just a way to find an excuse from doing it.
If we don't do it, thats ok too, we should pray that we get the himmah to do so. Its not easy to wear a hijaab in today's day and age, however, if one has the conviction and firm faith in Allah swt. This simple act of modesty will go a long way inshAllah.
Thanks! I agree with you.... But here people want to do everything on their will....They will give meaning to Quranic words the way they like disregarding what the learned Ulema told us or what our prophet(PBUH) has done..
Re: Is hijaab a farz?
Holy Quran says Laa Iqraaha fiddeen...there is no compulsion in matter of faith.
Re: Is hijaab a farz?
Niqaab is not fardh - because if it was then during Umrah or Hajj we would be asked to cover our faces but we are not .. infact it is clearly stated that we should cover everything except our faces (Wallahu-Aalam)
I found this on Shariahboard.com - hope it helps 
Holy Quran says Laa Iqraaha fiddeen...there is no compulsion in matter of faith.
Please explain what do you mean by that??? Do you mean that every one is free what ever he wants to do??? and call himself as Muslim???
Re: Is hijaab a farz?
I posted the ayat in context with the subject matter. So what I meant to say was wearing Hijab is your free will.
However on the other hand I am not denying that they should not cover at least what is guided by Quran and Hadith.
Saying that as far as I remember Quran clearly guides women what they need to cover at LEAST some areas. However women not doing PARDA causes a lot of problems in society. It infact it is good for their own safety and shows modesty.
Hence I am being neutral on the point. If someone wears it then good if not then it is between her and Allah.
Re: Is hijaab a farz?
This Ayat [La ikraha feddin= There is no compulsion in Deen] cannot be applied here. It is out of context here. This Ayat if for non muslims. That they will not be made to become Muslim by force. It should be their choice rather than compulsion.
If you apply here then it will mean that whatever anybody likes, he can do it disregarding any Quranic commands OR Hadiths.
Most scholars of today, don’t consider niqab an obligation.
Do i have to wear the niqab?
Thanks! I agree with you.... But here people want to do everything on their will....They will give meaning to Quranic words the way they like disregarding what the learned Ulema told us or what our prophet(PBUH) has done..
people here like me don't do everything on their on so stop making assumptions and if you're not aware of the majority opinion of scholars then you should gain more knowledge.
Yes it is mandatory. According to Sura Alnoor 24:31 which says: And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and protect their private parts(from illegal sexual act), and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent( like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands, one eye or dress like veil, gloves, head cover, apron etc) and to draw their veils all over* JUYUBIHINNA* (i,e their bodies,face,neck and bossoms) and not to reviel their adornment except to their husbands, or their sons, or their husband sons, or their brothers, or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (muslim) women i,e their sisters in islam, or the( female) slaves, whom their right hand possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.
Sura 33 Al-Ahzab Verse 59: O Prophet tell your wives and daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies(screen their bodies completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way).........
These are the guidelines laid down by our Lord Allah (SWT).
No. Juyubihinna means the cleavage. A literal translation means the "opening of the collar at the chests/between the breasts."
The Quran commands women to cover their breasts. Not cover their faces, or hair.
Yes it is mandatory. According to Sura Alnoor 24:31 which says: And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and protect their private parts(from illegal sexual act), and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent( like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands, one eye or dress like veil, gloves, head cover, apron etc) and to draw their veils all over* JUYUBIHINNA* (i,e their bodies,face,neck and bossoms) and not to reviel their adornment except to their husbands, or their sons, or their husband sons, or their brothers, or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (muslim) women i,e their sisters in islam, or the( female) slaves, whom their right hand possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.
Sura 33 Al-Ahzab Verse 59: O Prophet tell your wives and daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies(screen their bodies completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way).........
These are the guidelines laid down by our Lord Allah (SWT).
In surah Al-Ahzab it is talking about jilbaab only. Not the face covering. If you keep adding things in brackets () then you modify the meaning.
Could you please please exlpain the word "JUYUBIHINNA" some more withOUT the brackets?
I felt it is necessary to view full picture on the subject of Hijab.
The concept of Hijab is not something new or introduced by Islam only. All major religions of the world have had the practice of Hijab/Veil.
In the Old Testament we read about what Rebekah did before Isaac in the following passage:
When Re-bek'ah raised her eyes, she caught sight of Isaac and she swung herself down from off the camel. Then she said to the servant 'who is that walking in the field to meet us?' and the servant said 'It is my master' And she proceeded to take a headcloth and to cover herself.
(Genesis: 24: 64 and 65)
In the New Testament we also read:
But every woman that prays or prophesies with her head uncovered shames her head for it is one and the same as if she were a (woman) with a shaved head. For it a woman does not cover herself let her also be shorn; but if it is disgraceful for woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered.
(1 Corinthians: 11: 5, 6)
From the above, it is obvious that the Bible regards the veiling of women as a pious act. But the present day commentators of the Bible, in their efforts to prove that its teachings do not in any way deprive women of their freedom, have denied this fact because they thought that it is a burden on women.
The majority of Muslim women misunderstood the teachings of their own religion and they do not recognise its implications nor its benefits. Admiring the modern societies, they have followed blindly the false notions regarding the liberation of women and they have adopted some wrong ideas and consequently many of them rebelled against the teachings of Islam relating to the observance of the veil, and they went on indulging in the way of life of the modern society with all its false glitter.
The true concept of the Islamic veil can be understood and judged correctly by studying the source of all the Islamic teachings, The Holy Quran.
The Holy Quran has preserved the teachings of Islam in its original form and it does not only prescribe the correct commandments but it also explains the reasons and the wisdom behind them and it points out the benefits which can be gained by following them.
One of the verses of the Holy Quran which deals with the subject of the veil is found in Sura Al Noor where God, the All-Mighty says:
And say to the believing women that they restrain their looks and guard their private parts and that they display not their beauty or their embellishment except that which is apparent, thereof, and that they draw their head coverings over their bosoms, and that they display not their beauty or their embellishment save to their husbands, or to their fathers or the fathers of their husbands or their sons or the sons of their husbands or their brothers or the sons of their brothers or the sons of their sisters or women who are their companions or those that their right hand possess or such of male attendants as have not desire for women, or young children who have not yet attained knowledge of the hidden parts of women. And that they strike not their feet so that what hide of their ornaments may become known. And turn ye to Allah all together, O believers that you may prosper. (24:32)
This verse directs the believing women to restrain their eyes when they happen to face men and to guard their chastity and also not to display their beauty and embellishment, whether it is natural or artificial.
The believing men have already been given a similar commandment, from God in the verse that preceeded this verse where we read:
Say to the believing men that they restrain their looks and guard their private parts. That is purer for them. Surely, Allah is well-aware of what they do. (24:31)
So it is clear that both men and women share equally the responsibility of observing this injunction. They should both restrain their looks when facing each other or, in other words, they should observe the *Veil of the eyes.*
Women are by nature the delicate sex, and they need special care and protection. Thus Islam treats women as a precious treasure that should be guarded and protected from being startled at or molested or inconvenienced by other people in any way. So, far from depriving women from their rights or freedom, these injunctions show the high status of the Muslim women. Islam is even protecting the inner feelings of women.
The Holy Quran has summed up for us beautifully its teachings regarding the Islamic veil in the following verse:
O Prophet tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers, that they should pull down upon them their outer cloaks from their heads over their faces. That is more likely that they may thus be recognized and not molested. And Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful. (33:60)
In this verse God has given His commandment to all the believing women to clarify the fact that these orders must be obeyed by all Muslim women and not only by those who reached a certain stage of their spiritual development. The women of all ranks must obey this order.
The Islamic veil of a woman is a symbol of her protection from the external dangers that can affect her moral and spiritual advancement. The real Islamic veil is more than just covering the physical body. It implies also drawing a virtual curtain upon herself to protect her from all the evil surroundings.
If a woman is still taking the first steps towards purifying herself, her veil will act as a protector from any external dangers that can hinder her progress. And when a woman reaches a high moral state, it will be in her interest, and she will desire to cover herself completely lest she should be harmed or injured in her feelings in any way and so that she can develop spiritually and reach even higher stations. Hence, the outer garment of the Muslim woman is a symbol of the protection of her inner states as well. Her veil is a manifestation of the divine attribute (Ghafour) which was mentioned at the end of the verse which dealt with the subject of the veil in general. Though the word is translated as Most Forgiving, its full meaning is, One who forgives the previous sins and covers and protects a person from any weaknesses or shortcomings that might hinder his progress in the future. It is clear that this meaning matches what was mentioned earlier about the purpose behind the Islamic veil.
The Holy Quran has summed up for us beautifully its teachings regarding the Islamic veil in the following verse: O Prophet tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers, that they should pull down upon them their outer cloaks from their heads over their faces. That is more likely that they may thus be recognized and not molested. And Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful. (33:60) In this verse God has given His commandment to all the believing women to clarify the fact that these orders must be obeyed by all Muslim women and not only by those who reached a certain stage of their spiritual development. The women of all ranks must obey this order.
First of all the Arabic text of Quran doesn't say (from their heads over their faces).
And second of all "[The specific, time-bound formulation of the above verse (evident in the reference to the wives and daughters of the Prophet), as well as the deliberate vagueness of the recommendation that women “should draw upon themselves some of their outer garments min jalabibihinna)” when in public, makes it clear that this verse was not meant to be an injunction (hukm) in the general, timeless sense of this term but, rather, a moral guideline to be observed against the ever-changing background of time and social environment. This finding is reinforced by the concluding reference to God’s forgiveness and grace.]"(Muhammad asad)