Re: Is government doing this all on purpose?
^You expect way too much from supreme court.
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we have the same problem too, probably worse. We just have learnt to live without electricity most of the day unless we live in Mumbai or Delhi I guess.
ironically we spend all our resources on buying/building military technology
My dear the whole question is how do you go about gettingthose 270 billion? ..
That's where the "collective focus and brain power" of Pakistani educated elite. Look around the world and see how other smart countries make 270 billion dollars (and many times that amount) and copy them if you can't figure it out all by yourself. However figuring out yourself is preferable.
.Its rather naive (to put it lightly) that by signing NPT, we'll be handed over that money yearly.
You are taking this out of context.
That comment was meant to point out the assertion in the OP's post where he equated "nukie bumb and nuclear power generation".
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^The top 30 richest countries of the world are doing it in very different ways from each other. How do you think we shud do it?
^The top 30 richest countries of the world are doing it in very different ways from each other. How do you think we shud do it?
That's a trillion dollar question. If it was easy many tribal societies in the Middle East and AFrica would at the top of the world.
However in Pakistan's case, there are good models that we can selectively copy their traits and methods and hopefully we'll start improving.
The models from other countries should be selected based on their current level of development, and where they were in the 1940s. Compare that to Pakistan's strengths and you will get few ideas.
I could mention exact names of the countries but then some posters may come back and start another accusation cycle.
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While I completely agree with your analysis of Pakistan's bad economy & solution, many here would agree how Pakistani economy had been slowly deteriorating since after 1991 and much more so since after 2004.
The latest rounds of severe load shedding is closing down all the small / middle & large sized businesses which is actually collapsing our economy further. There is no sign of reduction in load shedding in the near future so you can expect the economy to completely collapse soon.
The present government is dancing on the anti pakistan mafia's finger tips so they are promised lucrative financial benefits for doing their (mafia's) job (of destroying Pakistan's economy).
If people go back to read my posts, since last year I have been emphasizing the importance of being self sufficient at the least & have a much stronger economy to become a dignified & self respecting nation. But looks like instead of the sane patriotic pakistanis, my posts have caught special attention of the anti pakistan mafia hence what pakistani economy is going through is exactly the opposite of each & every thing I have stated earlier that Pakistan needs or needs to improve. I see exactly those things being carried out in reverse.
That's a trillion dollar question. If it was easy many tribal societies in the Middle East and AFrica would at the top of the world.
However in Pakistan's case, there are good models that we can selectively copy their traits and methods and hopefully we'll start improving.
The models from other countries should be selected based on their current level of development, and where they were in the 1940s. Compare that to Pakistan's strengths and you will get few ideas.
I could mention exact names of the countries but then some posters may come back and start another accusation cycle.
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To answer the original post, yes this crisis is being created deliberately by the government. There was a similar thread by hanibal a few days ago I wanted to respond to and so many more other topics I have so much to say but they have made sure to keep the pakistani people isolated completely from the affairs of our own country & the government is freely taking steps to destroy Pakistan in every possible available tactic.
As we all now how this & other Pakistani boards have been bombarded with indian agents like bees on honey, they filter all such information coming from patriotic Pakistani and using that powerful strong anti pakistan mafia, they carry out actions which are opposite of the ones suggested by pakistani posters for the improvement of pakistani economy, development, business, education, etc.
Yes, they are intentionally depriving pakistani people of the basic needs. There is no doubt about it.
we have the same problem too, probably worse. We just have learnt to live without electricity most of the day unless we live in Mumbai or Delhi I guess.
ironically we spend all our resources on buying/building military technology
That's so true AW.
Many Pakistanis have no idea about the terrible situation of load-shedding in India.
I agree that we are spending all our energies on conflicts and weapons and not enough effort on improving the infrastructure such as electricity supply.
Thanks for confirming my doubts. There should not remain any doubts now who had stomach pain seeing Pakistani people did not ever suffer so severely from being deprived of basic needs so they had to do something out of jealousy to make them suffer what indians have sufferred in the past.
Every new day, my doubts of indian mafia having total control of pakistan's internal & external affairs strengthens.
we have the same problem too, probably worse. We just have learnt to live without electricity most of the day unless we live in Mumbai or Delhi I guess.
ironically we spend all our resources on buying/building military technology
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I have not seen any Pakistani in the world other than burqaposh having itch & pains on the fact that Pakistani people have always been naturally blessed by God's rehmat. I saw his thread about comparing the eating habits & living conditions of pakistanis with people of other countries in the region to which (& many other topics) I wanted to respond to but could not due to the same power outage issue). I totally felt burqaposh was a perverted indian munshi (under a pakistani's disguise) sufferring from some kind of brain trauma on the fact that pakistanis have always had better lives compared to indians.
It is quite disturbing to imagine that government is trying too hard to drag pakistani nation's living conditions, eating or other habits down to the level of indians living in slums. It is extremely disturbing. And it is hard for me to believe that it originally is a pakistani government's plan to do that. It is definitely an indian plan being carried out and implemented in pakistan over pakistani people through using the power of anti pakistani mafia. Especially so because it also meets the agenda of the lucifier to bring the new world order where there would be only two classes.................... the masters.............. & the slaves............ They are successfully working on bringing pakistani nation down to the level of slaves. It is not hard to see.
They could not have been able to do that to pakistani people if pakistani leaders / government was any sympathetic or had heart to feel the sufferring of their own people. it is so easy for them to do this because Pakistan leaders are heartless barbarians when it comes to feeling the pain of their own people's sufferrings.
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Look pakistanis should say F off to the current leaders.... but the what next?
I have not seen any Pakistani in the world other than burqaposh having itch & pains on the fact that Pakistani people have always been naturally blessed by God's rehmat. I saw his thread about comparing the eating habits & living conditions of pakistanis with people of other countries in the region to which (& many other topics) I wanted to respond to but could not due to the same power outage issue). I totally felt burqaposh was a perverted indian munshi (under a pakistani's disguise) sufferring from some kind of brain trauma on the fact that pakistanis have always had better lives compared to indians.
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Like your sarcasm. Especially where you felt I am an Indian.
Because no Pakistani would praise Pakistan.
No Pakistani would sit down and say "Allah swt, how wonderful you are that you gave us the gift of our homeland our motherland".
.... It is quite disturbing to imagine that government is trying too hard to drag pakistani nation's living conditions, e...
May be may be not!
May be that us Pakistanis are being dragged to hell, because we never say "Shukar AlhamduLiLah" and thank Allah swt for all his mercy.
Many nations before us were destroyed because they never cared for protecting their homeland.
No government can cause damage to Pakistan if we the ordinary people love and cherish our country.
Not even Zardari!
usman, I agree with burqa's solution quite much. Apart from that we desperately need more and more educated, sane & non-corrupt, non-greedy Pakistanis to run this country. I understand the later is extremely difficult to bring about especially in a poverty stricken country the economy of which is declining very fast, but unfortunatrly, we are also getting rid of the pakistanis from important posts who can make it work.
That's why I have firm belief that this is being done delberately by the government which is under anti pakistan mafia's control.
burqa,
There is no question of 'maybe'. Definitely, that's what it is.
Another post of yours I found much distasteful was which was something along the lines of (not exact words but this is what the conext was):
"Since Pakistanis have always had better lives and living standards than indians and other nations in the region, they have no right to object to the corruption or ill ways or any ways the government handles the affairs."
I couldnt believe my eyes when I read that. I mean whatever happened to the sense of fairness, honesty and ethics? Regardless of the living conditions of pakistanis, any wrong corrupt activity done in the government or private sector is wrong. Wrong is wrong no matter in what circumstances it is carried out and by whom.
Reminded me of a very young lady I met last year who was proudly telling me story of a woman relative of hers. She proudly told me that the woman (her relative) had two jobs. One has a rotating shift duty hours (private company) and the other one (a senior government post) was a 9-5. I said. "Oh surely she is able to manage that because she is able to choose the evening / night shift (private job) to hold on to 9-5 (government) job." This lady tells me, "Oh no, she doesnt opt for the evening / night shift but 9-5 on the private job." I asked how that was even possible to have a 9-5 job in two different places? The lady tells me, "Oh because her boss on the government job is a real nice guy so he told her it is okay if she cannot come to work so she actually works 9-5pm on her private job."
I was left speechless. Wanted to tell her so much that was UNETHICAL but I could not say a word. I just watched her telling me hat so excitedly. I wondered if I was on the wrong to think what her woman relative was doing was wrong.
So if your argument was that when the whole system is corrupt, it is okay to behave that way yourself or not question the wrong because you have been given better life as compared with other people, I completely disagree.
usman, I agree with burqa's solution quite much. .
Thank you.
.... Another post of yours I found much distasteful was which was something along the lines of (not exact words but this is what the conext was):
"Since Pakistanis have always had better lives and living standards than indians and other nations in the region, they have no right to object to the corruption or ill ways or any ways the government handles the affairs."
I couldnt believe my eyes when I read that. ..
Not correct. Quote me and I may be able to discuss. Otherwise your assertion is incorrect.
Sorry.
burqa, looking for that particular post out of so many threads is impossible during the only almost 3 hours of time I am able to spare for this place due to power outage.
Since you do not recall posting anything in that context, I might have misunderstood your post. I would have preferred to have it clarified but it's okay.
usama, another immediate solution is demanding government to resign if they cannot resolve the power crisis.
Thanks for confirming my doubts. There should not remain any doubts now who had stomach pain seeing Pakistani people did not ever suffer so severely from being deprived of basic needs so they had to do something out of jealousy to make them suffer what indians have sufferred in the past.
Every new day, my doubts of indian mafia having total control of pakistan's internal & external affairs strengthens.
this makes no sense what you're saying. Do you really believe we have anything to do with Pakistan's electricty shortage? what do you think we are doing, running a cable from your grid?
I said we had even worse problems because it is true and thought it may make some feel a little better to know that they have company. You somehow manage to turn that into a hate message! please don't!
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every other day, there are demonstrations by the people protesting against the power-cuts.. funny thing is, protesters are demanding to not to do it unannounced.. but the govt. seems to have some kind of grudge against the people of Pakistan, specially against the people of Lahore/Punjab... 8-16 hours a day is announced and practice is 14-18 hrs.. and if i not wrong, situation will get worse as the traders in Lahore are looking forward to lay-offs because of power-cuts.. not to mention many small business are already closed and people are just wondering why is this happening...
Your posts revolve only hatred against one person or party. Have you ever thought of what %age of Pakis stealing electricity through kunda system or otherwise? When high officials whether military, police, or bureaucrate or politician steal electricity, koi maai ka laal un ko haath to lagaaay? Have you ever thought of it? Can you just come out of your limited thinking? When people like NS steal electricity do you have any rancor? You are only following shadows. No country in the world can prosper when people steal resources of country without any shame.
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^^ The person and/or party is in govt and least it can do is to provide me with the necessity and allow me to make my ends meet with some honorable ( i hope jiyala understand what honorable means) means... is that to much to ask? and after two years, the current govt have no clue whatsoever to provide me with the basics yet i can see that the incompatibility of the ministers will further increase the mess in the country... so my dear, i do not hate party or persons... i even don't know them personally... but yes when they take away my wealth ( by corruption and just for ur info, it is not their right) i have right to protest or do you think that the current govt have license to do whatever they want and blame others for their misdoings... ?
just to give u idea of govt & zardari's performance, last year short-fall was around 1500-1700 MW this year govt manage to increase to 5000 MW...enough said
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No new project, not even completing the on going projects. Guys do watch Hasbe-hal on Duniya tv and see how much corrupt governemnt is.