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Peace Gora Kala

If anyone wants to confuse it is the one whose name is Gora and yet Kala ... not I ... you say that you did not mention that "fear" was either good or bad ... however in your first post you make the phrase "skin humanity from their moral lives" ... is this not a phrase that bears towards you saying that "fear" is bad?

Yes I did say we are given fear, I also said that we should control fear, but those who have no fear in my opinion some of them are only "ignoring their fear" and taking it to be an error message ... to which I am not convinced they should be doing. The fear is there for a reason - often our reaction to that fear is disproportionate to the actual risk and sometimes using false forms of reasoning - often spiritually people teach themselves to ignore "fear" ... some people are exceptions - just like there are people who are born without limbs there are people born without the attribute of "healthy fear" as there are some who are born without pain ... in all this ... for me fear and pain are advisors to us ... we must use them to make our decisions, but the decisions must be ours to make ...

When a person is confident he should second guess himself, and when he is second-guessing himself he should have faith, when a person is afraid he should reassure himself and if he is too sure then he should let a slight bit of fear in ...

Thus in balance we decide to walk the walk and success should result ...

The condition of the believer is that he is not too sure of the Mercy of God that it makes him complacent and that he should not be in despair of the wrath of God that it makes him lose hope ...

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Bro,
I wish you had paid attention to the subject line as well, it started with “Is fear” and I wonder how a question be conclusive about the answer it is inquiring about, you tell me. Can it be?

Bro, read your post again, you are saying one thing and contradicting it yourself.

Thanks for your effort nonetheless.

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Peace Gora Kala

I made no contradiction ... and you left out the question mark ... and one can ask a question in a manner where the intent is inferred ... and that is what you have done.

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By this did you mean fear is god of devils?

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Peace diwana

Gora Kala doesn't make sense most of the time unfortunately.

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I am waiting for the answer from OP. :)

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You won Bro Psyah, I can see you carry a much bigger ego than I do. if you analyse people against that standards that you feel comfortable with no one but you will make sense all the times.

Please cut and paste the statements that did't make sense to you, I may try, in my own little senseless logic, to explain.

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yes, I did.

Do you believe in "figure of speech" or all is literal for you

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You must be very intuitive, insightful and rather telepathic to speculate about my intentions.

lol

And btw, what I believe in was not even something to discuss.

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Who is OP?

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don’t argue with some one who has some sort of a god complex :cb:

if he agrees with it and approves, it earns his “yes”, otherwise you get such nonsensical replies. like we are all lower beings with an ultimate goal of seeking approval from diwana the great. he knows all and he is always correct :wink:

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Interesting how something you feel is worth discussing is something you do not believe in.

Anyway, back to the topic. You said earlier that god of devils = root cause. Therefore, you are asking if fear is the root cause that forces human beings to skin humanity from their moral lives.

By the term. Skin I'm expecting you are intending that to mean 'prevent', so by asking this question you have also set a couple of premises that we might contest in order to answer the question effectively. Such as

A) is the god of devils and adequate illustration for the term root cause or not?
B) does fear always hinder or 'skin' whatever that means humanity from morality?
C) doe the main clauses of "force" apply in a consistent manner?

So even by asking a question one can indeed imply certain things, because the question itself can be based on a premise that needs to be questioned.

For example if someone asks, "what if God died?" AuzdubillahiminaSahaitaaniRajeem ... The question is wrong, because the questioner has entertained a fallacious premise about God so the answer in any case is not valid.

What we have been asking you here Gora Kala is to qualify your question.

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You sound as though you have history with the great diwana … !!!

:wink:

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^oh, here’s the other person the same post can apply to :cb:

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There is none worthy of worship except for Allah … I’m but a humble nobody. For something to be said to be true the other person has to be able to reason with it to agree with it. What you have stated about diwana is true about yourself and anyone who engages in discourse. We can’t just accept everything people tell us in order to avoid being perceived as authorities, the fact is the ones who see people who ask for justification as such are the ones with the problem.

In the same breath you say that diwana has to approve what one says, yet it seems to be you who disapproves of his alleged nonesensical replies - if that is the correct term for them.

Be perfect in discourse …

By their post ye shall know them …

Peace

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Jesus Christ. ROTFL

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If anyone reads these posts, the take home message will be that you said fear is bad. Glad you agreed later it was figure of speech.

First you wrote fear be bad. The God of devil, then you denied by saying how it can be conclusive. Then you said it was figure of speech. :)

I am not going to dwell on this contradictions in your statements. Maybe you did not mean to propose fear is bad but inadvertently did.

That would be you my friend.

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Saaf Chuptay Bhi Nahin, Saamnay Aatay Bhi Nahin
Khoob Parda Hai Ke Chilman Se Lagay Baithay Hain

:wink:

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Disagree with respect.

Just like hate is reactionary emotion, fear is too. Nothing 'ingrained' about fear. And you contradicted when said ingrained AND reflective in same sentence.

Now if you talk about pathologic state then any excessive emotion which is shown as 'ingrained' is sign of disease.

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Yeh Jo chilman hain…dushman hain hamare. ;)..(:rolleyes: )