The god of devils that forces human beings to skin humanity form their moral lives.
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I think it's most likely the hatred rather fear.
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I think it's most like the hatred rather fear.
Hate is reactive in nature and slave to reasons. Fear is ingrained and reflective of what we have thus very fluid and relative.
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And what about fear being a catalyst for moral in a human's life???
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please define god of devils
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And what about fear being a catalyst for moral in a human's life???
Are you referring to fear of Allah?
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please define god of devils
root cause
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If you are strong minded person, and you fear something ... your brain will create the fear. Matlab brain will make the fear come true.
Have strong faith, clean conscience and dont fear anything.
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fear is derivative. If you asked 100 different people what fear is ur gonna get 100 different answers cuz everyone has had different experiences of fear and people associate those experiences with fear. Theres no textbook definition of what fear is
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Fear is the feeling we get when we are threatened in some way ... it is a self-defence mechanism ... how can it be something bad?
Sometimes we need to overcome fear - in those situations we call it "the struggle" - jihad.
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Fear is irrational. Why be fearful when you have the option of being content?
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When the creator is pleased with you and you are pleased with the creator, then you have peace and serenity. Fear and pessimism are emotions of the nafs, not soul.
But caution is a different thing, one has to be cautious.
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Fear is the feeling we get when we are threatened in some way ... it is a self-defence mechanism ... how can it be something bad?
Sometimes we need to overcome fear - in those situations we call it "the struggle" - jihad.
The perception of threat is inconceivable without the perception of "possession" , the perception of life is the reason for the fear of death a cadaver is highly unlikely to have fear of death. The more we possess anything the more we become fearful of its loss.
It is fairly simple to understand how it is bad. The idea or perception of "ownership" or "possession" is a mirror reflection of the fear that it can and will create, people will and do take measures to secure what they own. Ownership can be material or psychological. The self defense mechanism that you mentioned is not merely a mechanism to defend; it has been expanded to the limit of imagination. A person, a group of people or a country can take desperate measures to secure what they don't even possess. People can and do act upon their imagination let alone when threat is real.
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Fear is irrational. Why be fearful when you have the option of being content?
Fear is as rational as anything deserved to be called rational.
Option of being content with what?
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When the creator is pleased with you and you are pleased with the creator, then you have peace and serenity. Fear and pessimism are emotions of the nafs, not soul.
But caution is a different thing, one has to be cautious.
I wish and pray that we all attain the level of serenity you have mentioned.
Why you are still restless, sir?
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fear is derivative. If you asked 100 different people what fear is ur gonna get 100 different answers cuz everyone has had different experiences of fear and people associate those experiences with fear. Theres no textbook definition of what fear is
There might not be a text book definition of fear but is there a textbook reason for the fear? Did you think about it?
expression about an experience depends on more than many factors it, however, does not mean that underlying reasons are widely different too.
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Peace Gora Kala
You asked what fear was and I gave you that … I didn’t justify it … but at the same time I didn’t say it was bad … fear as you claim is not good, but I don’t claim it to be bad in the sense that I believe fear can be rightly placed and wrongly placed.
You talk of the sense of possession being the cause of fear and use an example of a cadaver to demonstrate that a cadaver has no fear because it perceives no life. Had this argument been cogent then it would apply to God - God being the most Aware of His Life should according to argument be the most inclined to be afraid … Auzdubillah!!!
Quite frankly your argument of the cadaver is a forced argument and it presents no value to this discussion that you have initiated. There are many people who do not have fear - such as a reckless person - but his recklessnes neither benefits him for his life in this world runs short nor does it benefit those around him - unless of course they learn not to do things that he did.
Your question was about “fear” and to me it applies specifically to “living” those who are not living can’t count … those creatures such as plants - don’t count …
I believe God gave us fear but He also gave us wisdom … I do not consider it bravery to do something that one is not afraid of doing … I consider it bravery to do something “noble” when “fear” is present … To say that is “fear” wrong is to say “bravery” is also wrong …
For me bravery/courage/fortitude is an aspect of morality … (this links back to your initial post)
It is one of the 4 cardinal virtues Cardinal virtues - Wikipedia
Fear may be part of the nufs - but our nufs is still a part of us - we are not required to extinguish the aspects of the nufs - merely to conquer them with wisdom. Fear itself is not bad, but how we react to it - is what is called “morality”.
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I wish and pray that we all attain the level of serenity you have mentioned.
Why you are still restless, sir?
Ameen :)
I was restless, when I chose this username. Now I am at peace with this username, I dont want to change it. Read it more like rest less heheh
You can call me Madam :)
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Option of being content with what?
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It just doesn't make sense though, at least not to me.
Why do we have fear? It is something in our surroundings that is causing us to be fearful, right? So basically we are allowing our environment to control how we feel. This is not how I believe we should live. I think we should always be in control of our emotions, as opposed to letting our environment control them.
Once we acquire that control over our own emotions, it is up to us to decide how we should feel. When you have the option, why would you choose to feel fear when there are other more positive emotions to choose from?
By content, I just meant in general, not with anything specific.
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Funny, I did not claim that fear is good or bad. I asked a question to see how people may respond to it and that is exactly what I am getting back. However I did talk about possible reasons for the existence of fear.
Yes I did, please do prove to me otherwise if you somehow believe that I am wrong. Fear of death is the strongest and most innate in any material living organism. The quest for survival draws its energy, negative or positive, from the perception of life. My example does prove that perception of having something is a reason for having the fear to lose it.
I would like to keep the discussion to the creations rather than to include and compare the creator with the creations. Allah is above and beyond besides the concept of life for a Muslim is not without the concept of Supreme Being imparting the “life” to a living and in that sense your argument is wrong. (I will not go any further on this)
“There are many people who don’t fear” is quite an extraordinary statement with virtually nothing to back it besides even for the argument sake if I agree that there are people who don’t “show” fear can neither be generalized to the extent of proving my argument being completely wrong nor it can prove that “showing” or “having” no fear can negate the existence of fear as a phenomenon. Kind of action under “fear” can generally be attributed to the personality trait, a reckless might be reckless because he is fearful of his own loss and tries to inflict loss onto any who he perceived as a threat, in that a person may fail to correctly identify threat.
Brother you said some people don’t have fear and now you say Allah gave us fear, what are you trying to say?