I am new to this website. I am not that good in following Islam, but I try to follow as much as I can and ask people in my surroundings to follow Islam too.
I saw so many muslim brothers and sisters here in North America who eat Jhattkay ki Chicken / Beef and they don’t even live without wine and other alcoholic drinks.
My Question is “to eat non-Halal isn’t it Gunah-e-Kabira”. Or please give me the list of sins that come under Gunah-e-Kabira.
I tried googling it but I couldn’t find any thing.
Re: Is eating pork/jhattka Chicken/beef GUNAH-E-KABIRA
Firstly, morbid angel, thanks very much for your link.
Now, I am in the US for over 5 yrs and it's a still a dilemma to me whether to eat from outside like Wendy's or McDonalds and I eat chicken from there without any doubt. I'd eat beef too but I just prefer chicken but that doesn't mean as told in the above link that it's haram to eat in all those places.
Very good question and we need to get over it without any confusion.
I think Halal and Zabiha are two different thigns. Chicken from McDonald's is Halal bcz. we can eat it as it's permissible by Allah. Same goes for beef or turkey. But the question is that is it "Zabiha?" Which means is it slaughtered the way we slaughter it? Most probably no but it's not haram to eat bcz.the link provided by morbidangel has very specific details and it tells you that there's nothing wrong in eating the food of Ahle Kitaab.
If I'm wrong, plz. do correct me and I don't claim that I have extensive knowledge but I did ask the Imam at the mosque and he told me that it's ok to consume the meat but it's not preferrable. Simply, it means that it's not haram but you should always prefer halal zabiha meat.
Umer
Re: Is eating pork/jhattka Chicken/beef GUNAH-E-KABIRA
this means eat only veggies and fries …
what if you can find other food but not halal meat ?
me thinks the best course then is to avoid meat and live on a vegetarian diet
Re: Is eating pork/jhattka Chicken/beef GUNAH-E-KABIRA
my 2 cents.... i'v been taught that any meat that has NOT been slaughtered in Allah's name is considered haram - I don't see why it has to be more complicated than that...
come someone please define the following"
--> Gunah-e-Kabira
--> jhatka
--> halal
--> zabeeha
--> Ahle-Kitaab
Re: Is eating pork/jhattka Chicken/beef GUNAH-E-KABIRA
Chicken is halal. Fish is halal. Cow is halal.
Whether its zabeeha or not, depends on how it is slaughtered.
Pork is haram, no matter how you slaughter it. The only time pork is permissible to eat is if you are dying of hunger and there is nothing else to eat. Nothing means nothing. It doesn't mean, "I don't like daal and sabzi, so I'll eat pork, otherwise I will die of hunger".
Re: Is eating pork/jhattka Chicken/beef GUNAH-E-KABIRA
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Faisel, when i said - that Chicken from MCD or KFC is haraam is because the animal is not slaughtered in the name of Allah; also that Chicken or beef can be brought from a Muslim shop.
For example, infront of you, You have:
KFC chicken and Halal Chicken
—> would you eat KFC chicken, even though you have the choice of Halal Chicken?
Side Note: There is a Hadith (on top of my head): that Allah does not accept the prayers of those who eat Haram.
Re: Is eating pork/jhattka Chicken/beef GUNAH-E-KABIRA
For example, infront of you, You have:
KFC chicken and Halal Chicken
---> would you eat KFC chicken, even though you have the choice of Halal Chicken?
Side Note: There is a Hadith (on top of my head): that Allah does not accept the prayers of those who eat Haram.
You must have been taught by someone from sub-continent, as they often use the words "halaal" and "zabiha" interchangably. Keeps their views simple, regardless whether they are correct or not.
If you talk to an Arab or a middle eastern scholar, more than likely they will tell you exactly what I have told you. Chicken will always be halaal, because it is deemed halaal to eat in Islam. Unlike pork or dog, as these two will always be haraam, no matter what. Now, whether chicken is zabeeha or not depends on how it is slaughtered.
The hadith, that you quoted (on top of your head) is about eating haraam.
Now whether non-zabeeha chicken/beef (a.k.a. jhatka) is permissible to eat or not is another discussion. Most muslim scholars consider non-zabeeha meats to be prohibited. Yes, they are halaal, but they are prohibited from being eaten because they are not slaughtered correctly. Some other scholars consider them permissible as long as you take the name of Allah before consuming them. Both sides have evidence (dalil) to support their respective points of view. You can read through their arguments and decide for yourself.
Re: Is eating pork/jhattka Chicken/beef GUNAH-E-KABIRA
^ sure agree with that. Now lets put Quran in to perspective:
There is a Sura that says on this subject that it is Halal "as long as you believe", "again as long as you believe", "and then again if you believe" (looking up for verse and its exact translation) - This clearly states that it is OK to eat Non-Zabiha food as long as you are true believer (x3 times).
But are you? or me? or most people? - no
Staying on the same subject: There is no punishment described in Quran for eating Haram or drinking alcohol. However it is a sin.
Re: Is eating pork/jhattka Chicken/beef GUNAH-E-KABIRA
Sure. And thats a personal choice. Because now you are into the grounds of “better”, which is different from the black and white world of permissible or prohibited.
Is it better to eat zabeeha? Absolutely.
Given a choice is it better to eat zabeeha rather than non-zabeeha? Definitely.
Is it prohibited to eat non-zabeeha? Ask your imam.
Re: Is eating pork/jhattka Chicken/beef GUNAH-E-KABIRA
Is it better to eat zabeeha? Absolutely.
Given a choice is it better to eat zabeeha rather than non-zabeeha? Definitely.
Is it prohibited to eat non-zabeeha? Ask your imam.
Re: Is eating pork/jhattka Chicken/beef GUNAH-E-KABIRA
5:4. They ask thee (O Muhammad) what is made lawful for them. Say: (all) good things are made lawful for you. And those beasts and birds of prey which ye have trained as hounds are trained, ye teach them that which Allah taught you; so eat of that which they catch for you and mention Allah’s name upon it, and observe your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is swift to take account.
5:5. This day are (all) good things made lawful for you. The food of those who have received the Scripture is lawful for you, and your food is lawful for them. And so are the virtuous women of the believers and the virtuous women of those who received the Scripture before you (lawful for you) when ye give them their marriage portions and live with them in honour, not in fornication, nor taking them as secret concubines. Whoso denieth the faith, his work is vain and he will be among the losers in the Hereafter.
6:118. Eat of that over which the name of Allah hath been mentioned, if ye are believers in His revelations.
6:119. How should ye not eat of that over which the name of Allah hath been mentioned, when He hath explained unto you that which is forbidden unto you unless ye are compelled thereto. But lo! many are led astray by their own lusts through ignorance. Lo! thy Lord, He is Best Aware of the transgressors.
6:120. Forsake the outwardness of sin and the inwardness thereof. Lo! those who garner sin will be awarded that which they have earned.
6:121. And eat not of that whereon Allah’s name hath not been mentioned, for lo! it is abomination. Lo! the devils do inspire their minions to dispute with you. But if ye obey them, ye will be in truth idolaters.
give me a break.
goodness