The US soldiers should keep these packages, we hear they are running low on food stocks these days.
AAAAaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrghhh .... Yaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnn
Man its been a long long long time since I've been here .....
More American disregard for civilian lives in Iraq…
U.S. Using Cluster Munitions In Iraq - HRW](http://hrw.org/press/2003/04/us040103.htm)
One example of what an average soldier thinks about the war on Iraq or what they have been fed:
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On March 21, the day after American and British troops began their illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq, an “embedded” CNN correspondent interviewed an American soldier. “I wanna get in there and get my nose dirty,” Private AJ said. “I wanna take revenge for 9/11.”
To be fair to the correspondent, even though he was “embedded” he did sort of weakly suggest that so far there was no real evidence that linked the Iraqi government to the September 11 attacks. Private AJ stuck his teenage tongue out all the way down to the end of his chin. “Yeah, well that stuff’s way over my head,” he said. **
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Does the military know that firing at tires is more likely to stop ANY van be it "terrorist" laden or "civilian"? Assuming the "time" they spent in "trying" to stop the van, they had opportunity to fire at tires and stop it, NO? Or were they not confident enough to hit the target (tires)?
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Blame that on the kid that shot because they were afraid to die in a foreign country.
I don't think they want to kill Iraqi civilians as much as the Muhajadeen want to kill American civilians and they don't get any bonus money for it, nor do they go to heaven for it.
Shooting the tires of a car does not stop a car, it makes it harder to control.
Reuters is reporting another civilian masacre by the US-UK war criminals…
Witnesses: Dozens Killed in Hit Near Baghdad
Dozens of Iraqis, including civilians and soldiers, were killed in the village of Furat near Baghdad airport on Thursday evening in what witnesses said was a U.S. rocket strike, a Reuters reporter said.
He said more than 120 people were wounded in the attack on the village, which lies between the airport and the Iraqi capital. Iraqi officials put the total death toll at 83, but it could not be independently confirmed. “We saw a pile of dead bodies at one of the four hospitals where the victims were taken. Most of them appeared to be military,” Reuters correspondent Nadim Ladki said. U.S. forces advancing on the Iraqi capital launched an assault on Baghdad’s main airport on Thursday evening, military sources said.
Guess you're too dazed to even read the stuff you post anymore.
*"We saw a pile of dead bodies at one of the four hospitals where the victims were taken. Most of them appeared to be military," *
As to any that might not have "appeared to be military," we have certainly learned that Iraqis in civilian clothes are not the same thing as Iraqi civilians.
Yet more evidence of American disregard for civilian lives…
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/04/03/MN307348.DTL
Hundreds in Iraqi town’s hospital. Wards filled with many civilians, some apparently the victims of cluster bombs
This small city 68 miles south of Baghdad is virtually encircled by U. S. forces and is waiting for the noose to cinch. Hilla is the end of the road for Saddam Hussein’s government, the farthest south you can drive before reaching the U.S. lines. The bombs thundering in the distance leave no room for doubt. At least several dozen civilians are believed to have been killed in the area in the past few days, and the wards at Hilla’s hospital are filled with hundreds of bleeding, moaning patients. But the ones who may be remembered long after the war sweeps past this place are those who appeared to have been maimed by cluster bombs – the tiny, unpredictable munitions notorious for the toll they took on civilians in the conflicts in Afghanistan, Kosovo and the 1991 Persian Gulf War. The Pentagon admitted for the first time Wednesday that American forces are now using cluster bombs in the Iraq conflict – a new type that purportedly adapts to wind and weather conditions to improve accuracy. U.S. Central Command said it is investigating reports that cluster bombs killed at least 11 civilians in Hilla on Tuesday. Reporters who have visited Hilla’s hospital since then have left with the strong impression that cluster munitions may have been responsible for many of the injuries there – shrapnel driven into eyes, legs, breasts, brains and backs. Residents of surrounding hamlets described a rain of the tiny explosives, which detonated either in the air, upon impact on buildings and – most chillingly – later on when they were bumped into on the ground by people or animals. A 5-year-old boy named Nader whose right eye was bandaged was being given some candy by visitors when his mother insisted that he be left alone. “He has to undergo an operation at any moment now,” she said. “He may not be able to see again with his right eye.”
QUESTION ABOUT CHILDREN
Pointing at six other beds occupied by youngsters with bloodstained bandages and bruises, she cried, “What did these little children do to the Americans? What did they do to Bush?” Another patient at the hospital, Basem Hoki, a 38-year-old former construction worker, took a fateful bus ride south from Hilla toward Najaf last Thursday. His left arm now ends in a bloody stump, and his left thigh is wrapped in bandages.
HAZY RECOLLECTION
Hoki remembers the passengers spotting a tank in the distance and pointing at it. "It was about 500 meters away. I saw a U.S. flag on the tank. There was fire and smoke," he said through a translator, his eyes glassy as he lay in his cot. Hospital officials say Hoki was one of only five survivors among the 35 who boarded the vehicle. “Many of the people on the bus were decapitated,” said hospital surgeon Dr. Dhiya Sultani. Like scores of other victims of “collateral damage” interviewed in Hilla and Baghdad in recent days, Hoki was unable to say definitively whether U.S. forces or Iraqi troops were at fault. Iraqi officials blame the Americans, while U.S. military officials say that such injuries could have been caused by Iraqi fire. As a crowd of reporters quizzed Hoki, trying to jog his memory of events, he could nothing more than repeat over and over, “I saw the tank. I saw the flag,” looking blankly back and forth at his questioners. Up and down the ward, scores of patients who were injured in separate incidents also had imprecise stories to tell. Bombs fell, houses collapsed, there was fire and smoke. According to the Iraqi government, 425 civilians have been killed by U.S. air strikes. The only neutral foreign organization currently in Iraq, the International Committee of the Red Cross, has generally confirmed the government’s casualty numbers while declining to ascertain which side was to blame in specific incidents. Red Cross spokesman Roland Huguenin-Benjamin, who has visited the Hilla hospital and toured the region, said the casualties here are “horrific . . . the worst I’ve seen in Iraq.” The visit to Hilla was organized by the Iraqi Information Ministry in an apparent attempt to buttress its claims of U.S. war crimes against civilians. Yet ministry officials made no overt attempt to put their spin on the situation – instead, the visit was remarkably leaderless. Journalists wandered on their own, spreading through the wards, collaring doctors and asking questions at random. An elderly woman named Hamida Abed lay bandaged and still while a young boy nearby with severe bruises all over his body screamed uncontrollably. A nurse said 15 members of Abed’s family had died in a bombing: “She lost all her children, their spouses and her grandchildren.” Then the nurse’s voice dropped to a whisper. “She does not know this yet.”
A Thank You to Robert Fisk…the Truth About the Iraqi Market Bombing
Fisk reported on a market being hit and said a part of the missile found was had a number on it that could be tracked back by way of the internet as belonging to the U.S. What he forgets to say is the type of missile and how they work…
The HARM will home on a radar that paints a US aircraft. That the HARM ended up in a marketplace means that the Iraqi military has sited air defense radar(s) in marketplace(s), a clearcut violation of the Geneva Conventions. As the Convention states, the party that sites military equipment in civilian locations bears the entire responsibility for any resulting civilian causalties and damage. So, congratulations Robert, a journalistic job well done in nailing the Iraqi regime.
Hmmm. Could explain why Fisk has so far not revisited his story.
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Spin this one, it’s using the facts Fisk provided.
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Re: A Thank You to Robert Fisk…the Truth About the Iraqi Market Bombing
Fisk will probably be asked to leave Baghdad now that he is reporting on Iraqi war crimes.
Re: A Thank You to Robert Fisk…the Truth About the Iraqi Market Bombing
Is that the long awaited rebuttal that you have been promising us? I opened your link and all Mr Reynolds does is plagirise from other sites like blogsofwar.com, instapundit.com etc etc. 
Surely you can come up with better than that? 
Why don’t you just give us some authoritative and independent links from relevant authorities and organisations that blame Iraq for the bombings?
He was on CNN talking about this as well...the point is he used the facts Fisk reported.
That’s nice, but CNN interviews a lot of people, a lot who don’t exactly tell the truth. You could have found a more credible source than somone who plagirises from blogsofwar.com and instapindit.com etc to state his “facts”.
Now back to my last question. Why don’t you just give us some authoritative and independent links from relevant authorities and organisations that blame Iraq for the bombings? Thank you.
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UTD: I suggest you rely upon the same links that Malik used to support his belief that women and children were butchered by US forces in the maternity clinic. :rotfl"
The facts you have presented are unimpeachable and unopposed. Fisk should be a very credible witness at Saddam's war crimes trial. I hope he doesn't lose that hunk of metal that was given to him by his Iraqi minders.
The proof: marketplace deaths were caused by a US missile, Cahal Milmo
The Independent, 02 April 2003
An American missile, identified from the remains of its serial number, was pinpointed yesterday as the cause of the explosion at a Baghdad market on Friday night that killed at least 62 Iraqis. The codes on the foot-long shrapnel shard, seen by the Independent correspondent Robert Fisk at the scene of the bombing in the Shu’ale district, came from a weapon manufactured in Texas by Raytheon, the world’s biggest producer of “smart” armaments.
The identification of the missile as American is an embarrassing blow to Washington and London as they try to match their promises of minimal civilian casualties with the reality of precision bombing.
Both governments have suggested the Shu’ale bombing, and the explosion at another Baghdad market that killed at least 14 people last Wednesday, were caused by ageing Iraqi anti-aircraft missiles. Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, said yesterday it was “increasingly probable” the first explosion was down to the Iraqis and Peter Hain, the Welsh Secretary, suggested on BBC’s Newsnight last night that President Saddam sacked his head of air defences because they were not working properly.
But investigations by The Independent show that the missile, thought to be either a Harm (High Speed Anti-Radiation Missile) device, or a Paveway laser-guided bomb, was sold by Raytheon to the procurement arm of the US Navy. The American military has confirmed that a navy EA-6B “Prowler” jet, based on the USS Kittyhawk, was in action over the Iraqi capital on Friday and fired at least one Harm missile to protect two American fighters from a surface-to-air missile battery.
The Pentagon and Raytheon, which last year had sales of $16.8bn (£10.6bn), declined to comment on the serial number evidence last night. A US Defence Department spokeswoman said: “Our investigations are continuing. We cannot comment on serial numbers which may or may not have been found at the scene.”
An official Washington source went further, claiming that the shrapnel could have been planted at the scene by the Iraqi regime.
The American navy confirmed that one of its Prowler jets, which is used to jam enemy radar, had been over an unspecified area of Baghdad on Friday night. A pool reporter on the carrier USS Kittyhawk was told that the Prowler squadron had fired its first Harm on Friday evening in response to an air-defence unit that was threatening two F/A-18 Hornet jets. Lieutenant Rob Fluck told the journalist that the crew had not seen where their missile had landed.
More proof if needed that even the US military does not know for certain where some of it’s not so smart missiles and bombs land.
A heartbreaking piece by the Asia Times’s P. Escobar.
Cluster Bombs Liberate Iraqi Children
The horror. The horror. And unlike Apocalypse Now, there are real, not fictional images to prove it. But they won’t be seen in Western homes. The new heart of darkness has emerged in the turbulent history of Mesopotamia via the Hilla massacre. After uninterrupted, furious American bombing on Monday night and Tuesday morning, as of Wednesday night there were at least 61 dead Iraqi civilians and more than 450 seriously injured in the region of Hilla, 80 kilometers south of Baghdad. Most are children: 60 percent of Iraq’s population of roughly 24 million are children.
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More proof if needed that even the US military does not know for certain where some of it's not so smart missiles and bombs land.
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Technology is always immune to errors. No missile can ever, literally, be "smart". Those who pay the ultimate price for this type of warfare are always children.
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Technology is always immune to errors. No missile can ever, literally, be "smart". Those who pay the ultimate price for this type of warfare are always children.
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There will ALWAYS be room for error with anything humans are involved. But as tragic as stray bombs that kill children are, these 'smart' bombs are exponentially more accurate (read less civilian deaths if that is the miltary objective) than anything ever used or conceived.