Iraqi women, children die as U.S. troops hit car / civilian casualties mount (merged)

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There will ALWAYS be room for error with anything humans are involved. But as tragic as stray bombs that kill children are, these 'smart' bombs are exponentially more accurate (read less civilian deaths if that is the miltary objective) than anything ever used or conceived.
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That's a matter of debate. Though with the Anglo-American terrorists where "smart" missiles don't do the job they will just butcher innocent women, children and babies in cold blood, and then state it was "absolutely the correct thing".

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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
That's a matter of debate. Though with the Anglo-American terrorists where "smart" missiles don't do the job they will just butcher innocent women, children and babies in cold blood, and then state it was "absolutely the correct thing".
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There is no debate among educated individuals as to the superior accuracy of the bombs the US is using compared to anything in history.

And enough of the "absolutely the correct thing" quote interjected into every post. Repetition does not disprove the reality of events.

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There is no debate among educated individuals as to the superior accuracy of the bombs the US is using compared to anything in history.

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When "superior" American bombs land in numerous civilian places killing dozens every time in numerous incidents throughout this war and hundreds in the case of the Amirya bomb shelter in 1991 I think there is very much a debate about the "superiority" of this technolongy.

I know you want to forget how US soldiers murder innocent women, children and babies in cold blood, then say it was "absolutely the correct thing", but it is a statement of fact.

Contrast British Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon’s statements regarding cluster bombs with those of Carel De Rooy, head of Unicef in Iraq in this Gulf News article:

Just like landmines, cluster bombs should be banned from use in times of conflict.

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*Originally posted by underthedome: *
Shooting the tires of a car does not stop a car, it makes it harder to control.
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I see we have a smart ass under this dome.
Strange that all the US police usesnailed stripes to stop cars....hmmm...I think UnderTheDome you must be new to American TV ?

Heartbreaking is the only word to describe 10-year-old Maryam Nasr and her five-year-old sister Hoda. Maryam has a patch over her right eye where a piece of bomblet embedded itself. She also had wounds to the stomach and thighs. I didn’t realise that Hoda, standing by her sister’s bed, was wounded until her mother carefully lifted the little girl’s scarf and long hair to show a deep puncture in the right side of her head, just above her ear, congealed blood sticking to her hair but the wound still gently bleeding. Their mother described how she had been inside her home and heard an explosion and found her daughters lying in their own blood near the door. The little girls alternately smiled and hid when I took their pictures. In other wards, the hideously wounded would try to laugh, to show their bravery. It was a humbling experience.

something terrible happened around Hillah this week, something unforgivable and something contrary to international law. One hesitates, as I say, to talk of human rights in this land of torture but if the Americans and British don’t watch out, they are likely to find themselves condemned for what they have always – and rightly – accused Iraq of: war crimes. (Source).

More horrifying scenes of destruction to civilian neighbourhoods.. :disgust:

Nine civilians killed in Baghdad blast](BBC NEWS | Middle East | Nine civilians killed in Baghdad blast) BBC News 08 Apr 03

At least nine civilians are reported to have died when a bomb hit a residential neighbourhood in central Baghdad on Monday afternoon. Witnesses quoted by several news agencies said at least three houses in the Mansour neighbourhood had been flattened in what they said was a US air raid. Some reports have put the death toll at 14.

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Rescue workers are searching the rubble for possible victims

Nine members of a family - including at least one child - were said to have been killed in the attack, which occurred at 1500 local time (1100 GMT). The Iraqi capital has endured daily bombardment since the US-led coalition launched its war on Iraq nearly three weeks ago.

‘Breaking point’
Neighbours and rescue workers were said to be searching through the rubble of collapsed buildings in the Mansour area for other possible victims. Children were reportedly among the dead and wounded. The explosion left a crater eight metres deep and 15 metres wide, while the force of the blast broke windows and doors almost 275 metres away from the site A heap of concrete, mangled iron rods, ruined furniture and clothes could be seen where buildings once stood. The wounded were taken to the nearby Kindi hospital.

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Children were reportedly among the dead and woundedFull Article

DHP: Now that is a fascinating article. I see no mention in it that the crater is where the Ba'ath party leadership, including reportedly Saddam and his son(s), were having a meeting and discussing escape routes through which they could all skeedaddle out of town.

That attack may prove to be the most successful decapitation of the worst elements of the Saddam regime.

myvoice, whether sadam was there or not does not justify the US deliberately targeting residential areas which they know have thousands of civilians :disgust:. Im sure you are aware that under International laws and conventions the bombing of civilian areas is a war crime.

I think they deliberately targeted a single command and control site, complete with bunkers, that Saddam stuck in the middle of a residential neighborhood. They did not target “residential areas.”

I think you’re wrong. UTD posted a very fine recap of the Geneva Convention provision (in another thread) that addressed this situation. The war crime is committed by and responsibility for civilian casualty placed on the party placing the military target in the residential community. You may not like it or agree with it but that is what international law is.

Three houses in the Mansour neighbourhood destroyed in US raids, with 9 members of one family including a young child killed (some reports stating up to 14 civilians killed). .. this is clearly an attack on a civilian area and is considered a WAR CRIME under international law.

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this is clearly an attack on a civilian area and is considered a WAR CRIME under international law.
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It is a war crime. By Saddam. I hope he gets posthumously convicted for this WAR CRIME.

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Three houses in the Mansour neighbourhood destroyed in US raids, with 9 members of one family including a young child killed (some reports stating up to 14 civilians killed). .. this is clearly an attack on a civilian area and is considered a WAR CRIME under international law.
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Hey guys i see many smiling people in Iraq now...young children, mum dad some of whom are holding the US flag!!!!

Was it all worth it???!!!

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*Originally posted by Dil he Pakistani: *
Three houses in the Mansour neighbourhood destroyed in US raids, with 9 members of one family including a young child killed (some reports stating up to 14 civilians killed). .. this is clearly an attack on a civilian area and is considered a WAR CRIME under international law.
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This whole campaign was a war crime.

According to which regulation Fret. Give some concrete example rather than spewing anti-american rhetoric.