Iraqi family shot dead by panicking US troops

Yet again trigger happy American troops murder almost a whole Iraqi family including three children in cold blood. I wonder what pathetic excuses we will hear now to excuse this latest American war crime?

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=432202

Family shot dead by panicking US troops

The abd al-Kerim family didn’t have a chance. American soldiers opened fire on their car with no warning and at close quarters. They killed the father and three of the children, one of them only eight years old. Now only the mother, Anwar, and a 13-year-old daughter are alive to tell how the bullets tore through the windscreen and how they screamed for the Americans to stop. “We never did anything to the Americans and they just killed us,” the heavily pregnant Ms abd al-Kerim said. “We were calling out to them ‘Stop, stop, we are a family’, but they kept on shooting.” The story of how Adel abd al-Kerim and three of his children were killed emerged yesterday, exactly 100 days after President George Bush declared the war in Iraq was over. In Washington yesterday, Mr Bush declared in a radio address: “Life is returning to normal for the Iraqi people … All Americans can be proud of what our military and provisional authorities have achieved in Iraq.” But in this city Iraqi civilians still die needlessly almost every day at the hands of nervous, trigger-happy American soldiers. Doctors said the father and his two daughters would have survived if they had received treatment quicker. Instead, they were left to bleed to death because the Americans refused to allow anyone to take them to hospital.

It happened at 9.30 at night, an hour after sunset, but long before the start of the curfew at 11pm. The Americans had set up roadblocks in the Tunisia quarter of Baghdad, where the abd al-Kerims live. The family pulled up to the roadblock sensibly, slowly and carefully, so as not to alarm the Americans. But then pandemonium broke out. American soldiers were shooting in every direction. They just turned on the abd al-Kerims’ car and sprayed it with bullets. You can see the holes in the front passenger window and in the rear window. You can see the blood of the dead all over the grey, imitation velvet seat covers. A terrible misunderstanding took place. The Americans thought they were under attack from Iraqi resistance forces, according to several Iraqi witnesses. These are the circumstances of most killings of Iraqi civilians: a US patrol comes under rocket-propelled grenade attack and the soldiers panic and fire randomly. This time there was no attack. Another car, driven by an Iraqi youth, Sa’ad al-Azawi, drove too fast up to another checkpoint further up the street. Al-Azawi and his two passengers did not hear an order to stop, as their stereo was turned up too loud. The US soldiers, thinking they were under attack, panicked and opened fire.

In the darkness of one of Baghdad’s frequent power cuts, other US soldiers on the street heard gunfire and thought they were under attack. They, too, reacted by opening fire, though they could not see what was going on. Soldiers manning look-out posts on a nearby building joined in, firing down the street in the dark. It was then that the abd al-Kerims drew up to the checkpoint. The panicking US soldiers turned on their car and shot the family to pieces. “It was anarchy,” said Ali al-Issawi, who lives on the street and witnessed the whole thing. “The Americans were firing at each other.” There was plenty of evidence lying in the street under the hot sun. Empty bullet casings lay everywhere. Bullet holes marked the walls and gates of nearby houses. Several parked cars were riddled with bullet-holes, their windows smashed and tyres shredded. From the spread of the bullet holes all over the street, it was clear the soldiers had fired in every direction. Sa’ad al-Azawi, the driver of the other car, was killed. The Americans dragged his two passengers out and beat them, still thinking they were resistance, Mr al-Issawi said. Watching from his house nearby, Mr al-Issawi did not know that al-Azawi was dead, and when the car burst into flames, he tried to rush over to help the young man. “The Americans did not let me,” he said. “A soldier came over and told me ‘Inside’. He pushed me, even though my eight-year-old daughter was with me. They didn’t let us get the young guy’s body out of the car until he looked like he had been cooked.”

Further down the street, Anwar abd al-Kerim, who was heavily pregnant and had somehow managed to escape injury in the car as bullets rained all around her, got out of the car, holding her wounded eight-year-old daughter Mervet, and sought help from her brother, who lived down the road. She had to leave in the car her injured daughters, 16-year-old Ia and 13-year-old Haded, along with her husband, Adel, who was bleeding badly and groaning. Her 18-year-old son, Haider, was already dead. A bullet went between his eyes. “I saw my sister running towards me with her daughter in her arms and blood pouring from her,” said Ms abd al-Kerim’s brother, Tha’er Jawad. “She was crying out to me ‘Help, help, go and help Adel’.” I put them in my car and tried to drive to the car but the American soldiers pointed their guns at me and the people shouted out to me ‘Stop! Stop! They will shoot!’ “We could see the other girls and their brother lying on the back seat of the car. They would not let us go to the hospital.” Ia was not as badly injured as the others. “After a while they released her and let her come to us,” Mr Jawad said. "But when they finally let us go to the hospital, Mervet died. The doctors checked her injuries and told us she would have lived if we had brought her sooner. "At 10.45 we heard the Americans had taken Adel and his other girl to another hospital. We went there at six the next morning, when the curfew was lifted, and they told us they both died in the hospital. “The doctors said they might have lived if they got there sooner: the main cause of death was bleeding. The Americans left them to bleed in the street for hours.”

what do you mean by excuse?
should one answer each of your yellow press call?

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what do you mean by excuse?
should one answer each of your yellow press call?
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almost they did it all the time :), perhaps they're tired of their own men's wrong doing and them covering up.

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"The Americans were firing at each other."
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Sounds like a lot of confusion, Americans firing on Americans, what it doesn't sound like is cold blooded killings. Sympathies go out to the families who lost someone, as this is a horrible accident. Those who reject reform within Iraq are the root cause behind these accidents.

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Those who reject reform within Iraq are the root cause behind these accidents.
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occupying armies are treated as trespassers.. not reformers.

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...Those who reject reform within Iraq are the root cause behind these accidents.
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How is this family murder a result of those people?

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How is this family murder a result of those people?
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When a car stops at a roadblock and a woman calls out for medical help and a soldier goes up to assist and then is killed by gunfire from within the car it dampens the trust. This has happened more than once and we now have the present situation.

The fact is supporting the Americas in Iraq supports Iraq itself. If America was not there civil war would consume Iraq and Saddam's thugs would retain order by punishing measurements. You can play politics or you can support what’s best for Iraq.

utd not everyone who wants the American's out of there is a 'Saddam thug' .. the resistance is natural.. it's their country and the US is an occupier.

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Shabaash. :k:

Imagine the uproar had an Iraqi man left an American family, including an eight year old American child, to slowly bleed to death on a street. Who can imagine what the next day’s headlines would be screaming? But hey, an Iraqi father is gunned to death with his three children leaving the pregnant mother to watch her family bleed to death - all in a day’s work for the new occupiers.

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Perhapes they drank their blood afterwards too?

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**Perhapes they drank their blood afterwards too?
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It would have been sufficient had they simply offered to take the family to a hospital. In Baghdad's sweltering +50 heat, leaving a pregnant mother to watch her 8 year old child, and husband, not to mention her two other children, bleed to death - how can anyone do that. Had someone done the same in Canada, it would be a punishable crime to leave a family bleeding to death. i am surprised she didn't miscarry.

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Perhapes they drank their blood afterwards too?
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humanity lies within USA borders only. :~)

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Perhapes they drank their blood afterwards too?
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Lol... Hey how about this take a dollar go call someone who cares, no wait here's $10 go call them long distance....

This post just shows how ill deciplined the US army is, i have no problems with the occupation but these civillian casualties must come to an end.

Cheers turn to jeers in Shiite slum, Gulf News, 17 August 2003

Time will prove us right](http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=17067)

Stars and Stripes, keep up the great work. Even on your worst day you’ll never be as bad as CNN (Constantly Negative News) is on a regular basis. Troops in Iraq, take heart! Time will prove us right. In the meantime, take cover. Blow away anything that looks the least bit out of place. Wish I could be there with you. Perhaps my chance will come soon! Master Sgt. Bill Farrar
Ramstein Air Base, Germany

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That was in the letters to the editor section of the Stars & Stripes (paper for US military overseas) yesterday. This the same day that news comes down that a cameraman was shot because his large, blunt, rectangular camera.. was mistaken for a shoulder-mounted rocket launcher (long, narrow, cylindrical)?? Ignorance is pervasive. The Stripes editors should be hanged for felonious stupidity for printing such a thing. The MSgt is just your run of the mill idiot (AF no less). But these kids on the ground in Iraq don’t know jack about what they’re doing. Sure, they’ve been trained.. but training these days is weak and not at all geared towards facing this kind of environment. The kids were burned out after a month. Now they’re dragging their asses jumping at anything that moves. This is where we’re going to lose things. Gotta treat the troops better, educate them.. don’t baby them with “Consideration of Others” programs. Teach them what they NEED to know. Gotta treat the Iraqis better.. This crap is completely avoidable. The reason you see things like this is because the military in Iraq is undermanned. Those little punks in DC need to suck it up and get the UN, or someone, in there. Mongolia aint cutting it.

That first line is so sad to read.

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:k: Well-stated, Spoon.

People are busy blaming sunnis and shias for all ills in Iraq. I wonder which of these religious factions US troops belong to?

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People are busy blaming sunnis and shias for all ills in Iraq. I wonder which of these religious factions US troops belong to?
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People who kill whole families in cold blood are murderers and terrorists, in this case that is the US occupation army. Just the other day these American terrorists killed a prize winning journalist, and then gave their usual pathetic excuses.

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People who kill whole families in cold blood are murderers and terrorists, in this case that is the US occupation army. Just the other day these American terrorists killed a prize winning journalist, and then gave their usual pathetic excuses.
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Malik, I suggest you learn to read. This wasn't done in cold blood but because they thought they were being attacked. Rational people see a difference between deliberately killing innocent people and making a mistake.

As I said in my opening post - pathetic excuses. :rolleyes:

The American terrorist army kills 6000 plus civilians, and still people are using the same pathetic excuse. There is no excuses for terrorism.