Faisal,
Normally yours is a voice of reason. But this time I have to agree with SheikhSahab and legbreakgoogly. Backing off at this time by Pakistan would surely be construed by the animals who committed this atrocity, as putting tail between legs.
I thin it might be a strain on the conscience a bit in the muslim world. I mean, how can on day these guys be freedom fighters and on another day be terrorists? Considering no one spell out what exactly makes a "jihadi", I am not surprised that the ostrich syndrome will prevail.
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*Originally posted by phoenixdesi: *
one thing that people should understand
that by condemning the violent acts committed by these brutal terrorist
organizations, we are not granting our support for American or Israeli
atrocities. What Americans or Israelis are doing in Iraq or Palestine
is State terrorism and that
needs to be condemned too but right now we Muslims should stand up and
finish our silence and start condemning these so called
Islamic activities from bottom of our hearts.
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How do you know that muslims are behind these crimes?
The amerikkan forces are prime suspects also behind such crimes are they whiter than white with there huge book of crimes against humanity.
You cannot take blame for a crime when you don't know who committed it for sure!
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How do you know that muslims are behind these crimes?
The amerikkan forces are prime suspects also behind such crimes are they whiter than white with there huge book of crimes against humanity.
You cannot take blame for a crime when you don't know who committed it for sure!
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*Originally posted by ak47: *
How do you know that muslims are behind these crimes?
The amerikkan forces are prime suspects also behind such crimes are they whiter than white with there huge book of crimes against humanity.
You cannot take blame for a crime when you don't know who committed it for sure!
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Get real, man!
Let these damn Arabs solve their own problems, let them burn. No need to send them any aid or help if they continue to act like bloody terrorists, that's what they are plain and simple.
I wanna see their egos reduced to nil b/f I send them a single penny.
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*Originally posted by legbreakgoogly: *
Sad man. As it is sad when any one is killed by these animals who are giving deen of Islam a terrible name.
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Some Iraqis have killed two Pakistanis to stop the government of Pakistan from sending their troops to Iraq. By chance both the victims and the perpetrators were muslims but it was the Iraqi nationalism that swayed the killers to commit this crime for whatever reason, not their religion.
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*Originally posted by underthedome: *
A pair of Pakistani workers are killed who were helping with the rebuilding of Iraq and all ak can do is blame the Americans. Ak enough with the BS, these deaths do not help further the rebuilding of Iraq thus it hurts America and its efforts so there is no reason for you to be upset, this was another victory for you and those who think like you
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wht rebuilding???kiling people,destroying mosques,abusing and raping muslim women...tht is ur rebuilding...u american guys even dont know sinngle abt human nature...actually u guys r worst..killed 12000 iraqis and u want them to love u...wht the hell u want to say.....
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*Originally posted by Matsui: *
Faisal, terrorists are like cancer. You don't let it fester in your body and hope that without interventional medicine, it siply goes away. You go to the doctor and get treatment otherwise it just grows. It is time for the world on the whole to root out his scourge.
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Iraq is just in the spotlight because of US military presence there, otherwise, this 'cancer' is actually all over the place, and most importantly it is spreading very quickly inside Pakistan. It is stupid to think we can go and help Iraqis, while the same jihadis are blowing up cars and killing innocent people in Karachi. We will do well to counter these first at home, and then worry about the other 50 odd muslim countries.
And for those who want Pak forces to go and help 'rebuild' Iraq... pardon me, but my sympathies are running a bit low for Iraqi causes at present.
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*Originally posted by oldexams: *
Get real, man!
Let these damn Arabs solve their own problems, let them burn. No need to send them any aid or help if they continue to act like bloody terrorists, that's what they are plain and simple.
I wanna see their egos reduced to nil b/f I send them a single penny.
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Keep your pennies iraqis don't want ur pennies ok.
They never asked for amerikka or even asked one US globocop to enter Iraq.
US wants to invade they caused the problems not as you say arabs which is broadbrush racist comment!
Fine don;t go to Iraq. Atleast do something in your countries. Instad of giving haars to the terrorists and letting them operate under different names, havng complicit insitutions aid and abet their terror inside and outside you land, do Something. Or someone else will..then there will be more bitching and moaning.
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Or someone else will..then there will be more bitching and moaning.
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and look what peace and prosperity it has brought in the past few decades to the ones who were subjected to the cancer treatment... may be it is time to treat the root cause not the side affects…
this is exactly what some ppl wanted to achieve
they wanted to create FITNAH among the Muslim ummah
Pakistanis against Iraqis
if today an Iraqi has killed a Pakistani and you are against the Iraqi nation, tomorrow if another Pakistani from another province comes and kills someone in your province you will start hating everyone from that province? and where will all this lead to?
who benefits from all this hatred and division among us?
As Muslims we are Muslims first and Pakistani later. Let me remind some people here that Pakistan was created in the name of Islam.
PAKISTAN KA MATLAB KYA? LA ILAHA ILLALLAH
why are ready to get divided so easily? is our faith in the Ummah so weak?
Shame on us. Shame on the whole Muslim Ummah for what happenned in Iraq. you, me and all of us are going to be answerable on the day of Qayamat for the tears in that mothers eyes.
Irem: Why don't you fight for women's rights in Pakistan?
Funny stuff Irem. 
Keep it coming. :k:
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*Originally posted by shawaiz: *
Irem: Why don't you fight for women rights in Pakistan?
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shawaiz why dont you stick to the discussion at hand?
Well Said Sister Irem :k:
**“Pervez Musharraf got my son killed,” sobbed the mother of Sajjad Naeem, one of the two dead men.
“Had he announced that he would not send troops to Iraq, my son would not have been killed.”**
Great reply irem. We will not let these Indians create disunity amongst us Muslims -Iraqis and Pakistanis. A thread is opened and these people jump in to enjoy all this with mirch and masala. They have no sympathy for those who died and let no chance go in calling it “islamic fundamentalism” . Their writings tell us so much about their hatred for Islam and the whole Muslim nation.
Shame on Musharraf who is not making it clear that we will NOT send our troops to Iraq. Sending the troops there would be like aiding the occupation.
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Keep your pennies iraqis don't want ur pennies ok.
They never asked for amerikka or even asked one US globocop to enter Iraq.
US wants to invade they caused the problems not as you say arabs which is broadbrush racist comment!
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Man, Arabs are like the Pakistan cricket team without the talent. They're full of egos, a superiority complex and perennial bickering. In the west, its not easy to see how racist some Arabs are towards brown people. Arabs are a failed nation. If it weren't for oil, they'd be in a worse situation that the worst of African nations. And that's exactly where they're headed.
It seems so retarded to me that these so called Iraqi "nationalists" terrorists think they're doing a service to their nation. They think it is better to prove the Americans are at fault by killing innocent policeman trying to bring civility to the nation and tryign to stabilize it. These so called nationalists would rather see a failed state, rather than a half-stable nation that undoubtedly the Amreicans would claim credit for. As long as such a twisted mentality exists, they can never succeed.
test
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*Originally posted by Faisal: *
To me it seems like a classic alarmist mentality. "O, the whole world will come crashing if we leave now!'
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whoa, hold up there pardner..
we are already noticing the problems created by the wrong choices made by leaving afghanistan to its own devices after the war with the soviets. Knowing that should the world repeat the same mistake.
it would be something if the mess of iraq stayed in iraq, but that is clearly not the case, it will become afghanistan part 2, being used to terrorist operations, and now being in an even more sensitive region..a bigger mess in the region and a threat to everyone.