Iraq downs US Apache helicopter(s) / Choppers come down (merged)

More humiliation for the Anglo-Saxon illegal invaders…

Iraq downs US helicopter

The United States military has confirmed that one of its Apache helicopters has come down in Iraq. Iraqi television showed pictures of the helicopter, which it said was shot down near the city of Kerbala, 110 kilometres (70 miles) south-west of Baghdad.

Iraq’s Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf said: “A small number of peasants - brave peasants - shot down two Apaches,” adding that Iraq might show pictures of the pilots. While defence officials confirmed that one aircraft had come down in Iraq, they refused to comment on the claim that a second helicopter had been shot down.

‘Waving guns’

Iraqis waving guns in the air can be seen dancing around the helicopter which appears to be intact. The pilots are reportedly being held captive. Two helmets were shown at the scene but there was no apparent sign of the crew. Five US military personnel taken prisoners of war have already been paraded on Iraqi television. Britain and the US have condemned the showing of the pictures.

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Malik, I saw it on Al Jazeera LOL!
Seems some farmers brought down this flying killing machine. I saw at least one 80 year old farmer wielding some antique gun :p

This is the guy I was talking bout

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An image from Iraqi television shows what is purported to be a farmer being interviewed in front of a downed U.S. Apache attack helicopter south of Baghdad, March 24, 2003. A U.S. defense official confirmed that one Apache Longbow helicopter was down in Iraq, but had no comment on claims by Iraq that it had shot down a second attack helicopter. Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf appearing on Iraqi Television said "Farmers shot down two Apaches. We showed one today and might show the second and the pilots." Photo by Reuters (Handout)

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This is the guy I was talking bout

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An image from Iraqi television shows what is purported to be a farmer being interviewed in front of a downed U.S. Apache attack helicopter south of Baghdad, March 24, 2003. A U.S. defense official confirmed that one Apache Longbow helicopter was down in Iraq, but had no comment on claims by Iraq that it had shot down a second attack helicopter. Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf appearing on Iraqi Television said "Farmers shot down two Apaches. We showed one today and might show the second and the pilots." Photo by Reuters (Handout)
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Alhamdollillah, the ordinary and brave Iraqi people are defending their nation, and inflicting great humiliations on the illegal invaders. :)

Malik, I thought ZNN showed the imperial troops being cheered and greeted by the Iraqi people? Media propaganda, u reckon?

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Malik, I thought ZNN showed the imperial troops being cheered and greeted by the Iraqi people? Media propaganda, u reckon?
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Some truth behind it as some reports said that US soldiers have not been welcomed in many regions in south and thats even a big blow for them as they thought these to be the cities where they can show people around the world how happy IRAQIs are to see US troops "freeing" them from EVIL Saddam.
How sad, it didnt work quite as well as they have had planned it.

Apache helicopters face fierce resistance

** Objectives ‘not met’ **

Monday, March 24, 2003 Posted: 6:10 AM EST (1110 GMT)

SOUTHERN IRAQ (CNN) – U.S. Apache attack helicopters fought a fierce battle with units of Iraq’s Republican Guard units early Monday about 96 kilometers (60 miles) south of Baghdad.

Later Monday Iraqi television showed pictures of what appeared to be a downed U.S. Apache helicopter, intact and upright.

The report said the Apache had come down in a field near Karbala south of Baghdad, close to the site where a fierce predawn battle took place between Iraqi forces and U.S. forces. It did not comment on the fate of the pilots.

So far, the U.S. Army has not commented on the report.

CNN’s Karl Penhaul who was with helicopter regiment involved in the attack said the helicopters encountered a “heavy, heavy barrage” of anti-aircraft fire in the battle.

He could not immediately say whether all of the U.S. helicopters returned safely to their base at an airfield in northern Kuwait.

** Most pilots said they were unable to achieve the objectives of the mission – to hit the Republican Guard armored brigade, knock out its tanks and pierce its artillery. They spent a few hours in the air defending themselves and trying to get out of the area.

The attack force did not expect such strong resistance from what they thought were mostly civilian areas, Penhaul reported.

He added that pilots were “somewhat dazed, somewhat stunned” by the level of Iraqi resistance they encountered. ** :hehe:

Some of the elements the Apaches tried to strike were Iraqi T-72 battle tanks, the most advanced tank used by the Iraqi forces. The Republican Guard was estimated to have at least 90 of those tanks, along with “multiple” pieces of field artillery and armored personnel carriers, Penhaul said.

The attack started after midnight (4 p.m. ET) and lasted about three hours, said Penhaul, who was aboard a Black Hawk helicopter that served as the command and control craft of a unit of Apache attack helicopters.

The helicopter in which Penhaul was riding was about 15-20 miles from the scene of the strike.

The Apache unit went up against the 2nd Armored Brigade of the Medina Division, which is part of the Republican Guard, the troops most loyal to Saddam Hussein, Penhaul said.

They also attacked positions between Karbala and Hillah, which straddle the Euphrates River south of Baghdad.

Narrow escape
Some of the U.S. aircraft flying in the mission reported taking fire.

Helmets found at the site

** One pilot described the situation as “a hornet’s nest,” as small arms fire and anti-aircraft fire came from “all sides.” ** :hehe:

Most pilots said they sustained 15 to 20 rounds.

One pilot said his helicopter was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade, which took out one of the engines, Penhaul reported.

He managed to fly back to the air base in Northern Kuwait, with one engine intact. At one stage, the pilot said, his aircraft dropped down 15-20 feet above an urban area before he could regain control.

Penhaul is embedded with the U.S. Army’s V Corps, 11th Attack Helicopter Regiment.

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Malik, I thought ZNN showed the imperial troops being cheered and greeted by the Iraqi people? Media propaganda, u reckon?
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Yes, but did you know that as soon as the US troops were "cheered" in by ordinary Iraqi's, they have then been entrapped in towns and been attacked by those very same people. :)

Malik, it sounds like guerilla tactics to me. It isnt looking to be a walk in the park for the colonial troops now is it. I bet Rummy wants to carpet bomb Basra, Nasirya and Bag Dad at this point ;)

Here's the crew;

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Malik, it sounds like guerilla tactics to me. It isnt looking to be a walk in the park for the colonial troops now is it. I bet Rummy wants to carpet bomb Basra, Nasirya and Bag Dad at this point ;)
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This morning there are reports another British soldier has been killed, as British troops retreat from Basra. Now the British are talking about going back in and trying to fight the militia's practically hand to hand - that is guerilla warfare.

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This morning there are reports another British soldier has been killed, as British troops retreat from Basra. Now the British are talking about going back in and trying to fight the militia's practically hand to hand - that is guerilla warfare.
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You mean the goras have the stomach for body bags arriving in union jack and star and stripes... I don't think so.

Another Apache destroyed by Iraqi fighters

Jazeera TV Shows Downed U.S. Helicopter in Iraq
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DUBAI (Reuters) - The al-Jazeera Arab satellite television channel showed pictures of a U.S. helicopter which it said had been shot down over Iraq (news - web sites) on Thursday.

The Qatar-based channel broadcast footage of a helicopter with U.S. military markings surrounded by Iraqi men waving rifles. It also showed pictures of what Jazeera said was a downed U.S. pilotless drone.

Jazeera said the helicopter was an Apache shot down in the mid-Euphrates region of Iraq. It gave no details of the fate of the crew. U.S. officials had no immediate comment.

Iraq said Monday that farmers had shot down two U.S. helicopters south of Baghdad, and showed television pictures of a downed helicopter and its captured two-man crew.

The Pentagon (news - web sites) confirmed after that incident that one AH-64 Apache attack helicopter had gone down in Iraq. On Tuesday, U.S. military officials said the helicopter had been subsequently destroyed by U.S. forces.

The two crew of the helicopter that went down on Monday – Chief Warrant Officer David Williams, 30, from Florida, and Chief Warrant Officer Ronald Young Jr., 26, of Lithia Springs, Georgia – are now officially listed as prisoners of war.

According to this article, it was shot down by an Iraqi “peasant” with his “ancient rifle”. (Source).

Amazing what stories some people will believe and others they won't.

Pro Saddam true, Pro Coalition false.

This is another chopper that is brought down by peasants or militia. Teh first was shot down by a farmer and it came down perfect intact with all the bells and whistles. Latter US destroyed it so it don’t fall into Iraqi, Russkie or Chinese hands.

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Amazing what stories some people will believe and others they won't.

Pro Saddam true, Pro Coalition false.
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That is so true when Pentagon boys confessed the chopper was down they must have been high on Afghan stuff since NA are in business as usual.

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Amazing what stories some people will believe and others they won't.

Pro Saddam true, Pro Coalition false.
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And some people will only believe when Bush or administration will approve/admit it.

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Amazing what stories some people will believe and others they won't.

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So are you implying that the incident of the peasant who shot the Apache helicopter down, is false ? i quoted it from a British source.

i am more surprised that individuals would be willing to believe the rhetoric from either side - particularly after the US admin. stretched the truth over the "uprising", the civilian deaths at the residential marketplace yesterday, the "window of opportunity" on the first day of the invasion, the apparent control of Umm Qasr, and the assertion of thousands of Iraqis running to welcome US/UK forces with flowers in their hands.