Iran's President says that Israel will soon be wiped out / misquoted (merged)

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USResident:

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Israel is one to come out of that fallout as well
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First rule of a discussion is that in order to convince someone, you need to be convinced yourself. If a speaker is not clear about the subject of his presentation then there is NO way that the audience will understand it either.
It's funny how people so easily forget these simple common-sense rules.

So British and French carved the border of various states after the fall of Ottoman Empire. That's true. But they did not displace the people of any land. Hence while they decided not to let Kurds a country of their own (was it because Saladdin was Kurd?!), they did not displace Kurds out of their lands.
BUT, rules change when it comes to Zionists. Here Palestinians, millions of them, are thrown out of their land in the name of "compensation" for some people from Europe. And who committed the crimes for which that "compensation" was about? It was the GERMANS. Why the hell should Palestinians pay for the crimes of Europeans?

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mercenary:

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The area on which Israel was suppose to be created had Jewish Majorities
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It was an artificial majority, created on purpose only a few decades ago, with the only aim of one day usurping the apartheid land in the name of religion.

Today, anyone who claims to belong to Jewish race (racism?) is allowed to immigrate to Israel, while the original inhabitants of the area are terrorized by state to accept the oppression.

Pakistan was created for Muslim majority, who were the original inhabitants of this land. Another difference is that no Muslim can automatically become a citizen of Pakistan just because of being Muslim. Yet another difference between Pakistan and Zionist Apartheid regime is that people belonging to every religion are the equal citizens of the country.

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I don't want to goto tangents but there is difference in the creation of two states. Lets just focus on Ahmedinejad's words in this thread.

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Correct. I wonder what this guy's been smokin!

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mercenary:

Some people have a very short memory. Tell us exactly how many nuclear bombs did the Daddy use to wipe out the USSR?

“Ahmadinejad: Israel to disappear like USSR”](Ahmadinejad: Israel to disappear like USSR)

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ok im not a big fan of Ahmadinejad but i have heard hes a very charismatic and sincere leader (sincere to his country i.e.) and there are stories about wherever he goes, his people gather up in HUGE numbers (i believe there was a recent article on time about that, someone might have the link here???), even the illiterate women who rarely step out of their houses travelled long distances, just to catch a glimpse of this great leader as they call him. He may be bold, brash and hated in the west, but hes quite a revolutionary politician if you ask me.

Say English Word , the other will say Urdu Word for it
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First you were calling Ahmadinejad “crazy” because according to you no country can be wiped out without nukes. And now that AHMADINEJAD gives you an example, you ask ME how he would do that.

Well, I am not Ahmadinejad. So I really do not care what is in his mind. I may or may not disagree with him. But his example DID prove that his thinking is BEYOND YOU. What you considered impossible without nukes, he shut you up by one little example, and proved that it IS possible, and that it is not as crazy as you think.

That was the point. Now you go beat the bush. Your point about his “craziness” has been nullified.

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He is a nut...but then, last I checked, he's not overseeing the illegal occupation and dehumanization of an entire people...go figure. Chalk one up for the nuts.

Talk is cheap...actions are not. He may talk trash, but it is in fact Israel that is dealing in it.

Israel has not supported Pakistan on Kashmir...some support from Arab states is much better than no support from Israel.

Pro-Israeli elements within the American media have been decidedly pro-India, and anti-Pakistan. India is the better ally, so don't anticipate any love from that crowd any time soon...unless of course Pakistan wants to be another Indian state. That, they can buy...

I shouldn't need to remind you that it was the Arabs that bailed out a near bankrupt Pakistan during the 80's. Not Israel. Go figure.

Pakistan has a beef with Israel because Pakistan is the result of an anti-Colonial movement; Zionism itself was a colonial movement. The origins of both countries have nothing to do with each other, and given the general anti-Colonial sentiment, and that sub-continental Asians in general were the victims of colonization, it would essentially kill the reason d'etre for Pakistan to exist.

The day Pakistan recognizes Israel without a peep about Israel's colonial nature is the day I hope India occupies Pakistan and makes Palestinians out of them. And the Indians can then, of course, cite "karma" as the reason for occupation....

translate urdu mahawarey in ungrezi!
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What a contradicting statement. Kurds not getting a country of their own implies no displacement of their population. When India and Pakistan were created there was a brutal population exchange.

Millions of Palestinians thrown out, there weren't even a million Palestinians when all this happened. You are right to say why should the Palestinians pay for the crimes of the Europeons, but then why make enemies with the Jews when they were only acting on a charter approved by the Major ruling powers of the world. They did not get up and land in there without the powers of the time agreeing to it. The Arabs leaders were trying to appease the British to get their own land and kingdom, hardly in a position to question what they did.

My point always has been there current plan of action is not of much use and you have to be blind not to see the results it has yielded.

I am not saying that Israel is justified in being there but the fact is that it is there. Can you tell me what harm could the existence of Israel have brought to the Arab world had it been accepted peacefully? Maybe just some population displacement at most, which happened anyway as a result of the wars and atrocities.

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I have never supported Bush and worked tirelessly to have him defeated in 2000 and 2004. I didn't say "fool and a lunatic" I said "denial, blind or a fool". That's a huge difference. It is your mischaracterizations and misquoting that is unreasonable, senseless, and haughty and only demonstrate the shallowness of your argument.

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Now you are saying that you personally did not support Monkey Administration, but how can you call Kofi, Russians, and Chinese the sensible and reasonable people in Iraq's case, but call the very same people fools and blinded in Iran's? Do you have multiple personalities or something?
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Because I didn't support Bush doesn't mean I think Kofi, Russians, and Chinese are reasonable, unbiased, honest or not looking out for their best interests. Your illogical line of thinking in extrapolating my beliefs further diminish your argument.

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you make a great reason for why america should double its israelli contribution, and clean up terrorist states which helped arabs. is it true pakis jump around ships like its monkey bars?

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The example that Israel will break apart like the USSR?

First Ahmedinijad pledges to wipe Israel off the map then he says that Israel will break apart like the USSR. He cannot wipe Israel off the map without using Nukes and then inviting his own destruction. 2nd, I ask, how exactly will Israel break apart like the USSR?

Not really. His example made no sense. How exactly will Israel fall apart like the USSR?

On the contrary, I think we can chalk up dillusional as well when describing Ahmedinijad

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Guys, I have moved 'why Israel created' and other similar un-related posts out, stick to the topic or open a separate thread for your discussions.

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mercenary:

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First Ahmedinijad pledges to wipe Israel off the map then he says that Israel will break apart like the USSR.
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What you are showing yourself incapable of understanding is that Ahmadinejad did not say that Iran itself will wipe Israel off the map. This is the propaganda of your Zionist masters in Yizrael. Instead he called for elimination of Zionist regime, and this is similar to Monkey Administration's attempts to eliminate current Iranian regime.

You have problem in very basic understanding of his statements.

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hurrah! cant wait!

:halo:

Last person to answer this post wins!!!!
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You sound as excited as I am at the prospect of Iran being wiped out!

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^ That comment is exactly the reason why the evangelicals and Zionists are as worse as Qaeda militants. These people will commit massacres and then justify it based on religion. This is why Zionists are another face of Nazis.

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No, that comment was demonstrate the hate mongering and ignorance.

So quick to judge my post as 'worse as Qaeda militants' when those against Israel are condoned as justified based on religion. This is why they are another face of Nazis.

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Oh yeah sem…watcha gonna do? ask google to erase out iran on their map again are we? :hehe:

you know, things must be real bad if you have to resort to google rubbing out map lines! :smiley:

** Iranians outraged as Google redraws map**

Monday, November 13, 2006

Google has provoked the wrath of Iran’s notoriously suspicious authorities by appearing to question the country’s sovereignty over the province of Azerbaijan in an entry on its Google Video website.

In a move tailor-made to wound Iranian patriotic pride and arouse a blizzard of protest, the Azeri provincial capital, Tabriz, is located “in southern Azerbaijan, currently in the territory of Iran”. To add insult to injury, the ancient city is listed as being in Azerbaijan, rather than Iran. Tabriz and southern Azerbaijan have belonged to Iran for more than 4,000 years.

The text of a tourist film on the site has drawn accusations that the US-owned search engine is deliberately trying to undermine Iran’s territorial integrity by fomenting separatist sentiment in the mainly Turkish-speaking province.

http://infowars.net/articles/november2006/131106map.htm

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Vroom Your comments need to be cleaned with a **broom* because they are very ill-informed and immature. Who do u think is occupying Arab lands and killing defenseless innocent palestinians. Also American support has always been there for Israel and it is based on Israeli demands. Israel gets what it wants. Pakistan has always supported the Palestinian cause, it is the indian monkeys who are jupmping the bars. In case you have Alzhimers and dont remember, India used to be the leader of non aligned movement and used to be a big supporter of Arabs But now they feel being in bed with the jews is more cozy and profitable for them. *