Iran’s enrichment dilemma

Well, I am speaking for myself and the arguments whether flawed or otherwise are my own. I am not Masood Khan Anti so what I say doesn't mean that our government is going to do the same.

I am sure Pakistani government would never support Iran at the cost of antagonizing US. Even if the US is not in the picture, I somehow feel that they would not really encourage Iran. The case of Libya was different as Libya helped Pakistan a lot when it was trying to aquire the nuclear capability. Now what Ghadafi did and stabbed us is a different thing altogether.

khair, whatever...I just like ther resilience and nothing else. However, we cannot rule out the role played by the Europeans in this regard. And even if the case is referred to the security council, chances are that China or Russia might veto that...

The noose is tightening. Mullahs better get ready, this is Iraq all over again.


Arms Inspectors Said to Seek Access to Iran Sites
By WILLIAM J. BROAD, DAVID E. SANGER and ELAINE SCIOLINO

Published: December 2, 2004

his article is by William J. Broad, David E. Sanger and Elaine Sciolino.

VIENNA, Dec. 1 - International inspectors are requesting access to two secret Iranian military sites where intelligence suggests that Tehran’s Ministry of Defense may be working on atomic weapons, despite the agreement that Iran reached this week to suspend its production of enriched uranium, according to diplomats here.

The inspectors at the International Atomic Energy Agency base their suspicions on a mix of satellite photographs indicating the testing of high explosives and procurement records showing the purchase of equipment that can be used for enriching uranium, the diplomats said. Both are critical steps in the development of nuclear arms.

Iran has insisted that its uranium enrichment program is entirely for civilian nuclear energy production, but the areas the I.A.E.A. wants to visit are all located in secure military bases. Traditionally, such facilities are considered off limits to the I.A.E.A., whose primary mandate is to monitor civilian nuclear programs, unless there is strong evidence of covert nuclear activity at the military sites. Weapons experts cautioned that the equipment purchases and other activities could have non-nuclear purposes.

Mohamed ElBaradei, the director general of the I.A.E.A., said in an interview here on Wednesday that he has repeatedly asked Iran for access to the two sites, but that it has not yet been granted.

“We are following every credible piece of information,” he said. Understanding the exact significance of what is happening at the two military sites is “important,” he added. “We still have work to do, a lot of work.” He estimated that even with full Iranian cooperation, it would take at least two years to resolve all of the outstanding questions surrounding the country’s nuclear program.

“We’re not rushing,” he said. “It takes time.”

The deal the Europeans signed with Iran, which the United Nations atomic agency blessed on Monday, was designed to defuse the most urgent problem, Tehran’s enrichment of uranium at civilian sites, which could have given it quick access to the raw material for making bomb fuel.

With that problem at least temporarily under control, inspectors and the United States are now turning to the question of whether Iran has a parallel military nuclear program that it has not declared. Last year, the country admitted to inspectors that it had hidden critical aspects of its civilian program for 18 years.

The inspectors now want to examine the military sites to see whether secret nuclear work is under way. Much of the equipment needed for centrifuges - which spin at supersonic speeds to purify uranium for reactors and bombs - is “dual use,” meaning it could be used for peaceful purposes, as well.

Some officials close to the atomic agency said a last-minute disagreement over centrifuges in Iran’s civilian program, which emerged before this week’s accord was signed, may have been designed as a diversion by Tehran to take attention away from the agency’s request for access to its military bases.

An Iranian official dismissed the idea of opening up the military sites, saying Tehran had no responsibility to do so. “There is nothing required for us to do,” he said.

“They should have evidence that there are nuclear activities, not just 'We heard from someone that there is dual-use equipment that we want to see.”

The suspicions were aired here as an Iranian opposition group was preparing to release what it called new information that Iran was secretly developing a nuclear-capable missile whose range is significantly greater than what the Iranians have publicly acknowledged to date.

Diplomats and weapons experts here said in interviews that the intelligence on Iran’s military activities comes from several sources, including nations that are members of the United Nations nuclear agency.

One of the suspect military sites under investigation by the I.A.E.A. is a huge, decades-old facility southeast of Tehran, the Parchin military complex. Inspectors believe Iran’s military may be testing conventional high explosives at the site, of a type used to detonate nuclear weapons.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/02/international/middleeast/02nuke.html

The real problem is twofold:

The west realized long ago that the chaos theory applies to nukes. The more of them there are in the world the more likely they are to go off. That is why efforts at disarmament have been ongoing for 30 years. And frankly the US and the Soviet Union both had far too many nukes, and are actively destroying them.

The collapse of the Soviet Union also taught us about failed states, and having Nuclear weapons and materials lying about with no funds to maintain them or protect them. No one thinks this will happen to Iran, but I trust the stability of the Mullahs about as far as I can throw them.

The Muslim world somehow thinks that nuclear weapons means that they are safe, and it is a matter of some prestige in the world. I was dead serious when I suggested that the most likely eventual outcome of a nuclear blast is a Muslim state. The weapons created do not have delivery systems to attack the US, and Israel is so heavily defended it is doubtful a missle could get through. Muslims simply are not convinced that proliferation is a bad thing. You are 30 years behind the curve. Do I fully trust the ISI with the launch codes? I am once again comforted that your missles do not reach the West....

US is activly destroying its nuclear arsenal nice joke who ever said that one! :clap:

The more nukes for muslim countries the better it will stop the amerikkkan terrorists thinking about invading them!

As for israel being so heavily defended it would be difficult to nuke it yeah right hezbollah launching several unmanned airplanes day in day out and the so called superior IDF didnt have a clue :eek:

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As I said earlier: North Korean model is big with left leaning writers and their Mullahtic supporters. However they forget that NK hasn't gone out of its borders. Invasion of NK by US+Japan+SK will be quick and severe as soon as little kim kim violates rules of his area.

North Koreans one day will supply the cheep labor to South's industrial machine, just like the Easter Germans headed West for work.

Iran and other countries following Iranian model will remain poor and butt of jokes throughout the world.