^^ That way we don't have to lend our weapons to Iran should need arise. We keep our toys they keep theirs.
Seems like Iranian Mullahs don’t quit boasting. What is with this idiotic statement that they “defeated” US. Mullahs had to cap their program under US-EU pressure. The only one defeated in the game so far is the Mullahtic bunch in Iran.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6956598
By Paul Hughes
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran boasted on Tuesday it had defeated U.S. efforts to send its nuclear case to the U.N. Security Council while warning that its uranium enrichment freeze would only last for a few months.
“The Americans have been calling for Iran to be reported to the Security Council for a year and a half, now the whole world has turned down America’s calls,” Iran’s chief nuclear negotiator Hassan Rohani told a news conference.
“Despite the U.S. propaganda Iran has not relinquished its right to the (nuclear) fuel cycle and it never will do,” said the cleric, who is secretary-general of Iran’s top security body, the Supreme National Security Council.
**His comments appeared to undermine European Union efforts **to persuade Tehran to permanently mothball enrichment facilities – which can be used to make atomic reactor fuel or nuclear bombs – and were likely to fuel U.S. concerns that Iran secretly plans to produce nuclear weapons.
Iran, which insists its nuclear program is solely for electricity generation, on Monday escaped possible U.N. sanctions after agreeing to suspend all uranium processing and enrichment activities.
The EU hopes Iran will make the suspension permanent in return for trade deals and other incentives. But Tehran says the suspension is a voluntary and temporary measure designed to gain international trust.
“The length of the suspension will only be for the length of the negotiations with the Europeans and … must be rational and not too long,” Rohani said.
“We’re talking about months, not years,” he added.
The United States, which already has a ban on trade and investment with Iran, OPEC’s second biggest oil producer, has voiced skepticism Iran will stick to the nuclear freeze and says it may take Iran’s case to the Security Council on its own.
POSITIVE SIGN
Western diplomats have expressed growing frustration with Iran, which reneged on a similar suspension six months ago and wrangled over each step of negotiations on the current freeze.
Madhanee why are you so keen on killing shias?
Antiobl: Well the US wanted to drop bombs or atleast have sanctions, whereas the EU dismissed these calls. I think the US being snubbed is always gonna be seen as victory in Iran.
ps- Mad_Sc, you best be living in brum then.
Just saw on the news, Iran said this is temporary.. It has refused inspection of most sites... Which means no matter what Iran says if the sites are out of reach of IAEA then the uranium rod is already there...
hallelujah
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Just saw on the news, Iran said this is temporary.. It has refused inspection of most sites... Which means no matter what Iran says if the sites are out of reach of IAEA then the uranium rod is already there...
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Seems like the rod is in your back pocket, at least the way you are overjoyed.
If they had balls, they wouldnt even enter into any negotiation. It appears that the rod is back in Ayatolla’s backpocket.
It’s only a matter of time when these Matoos are history, like their compatriots Talibooboos and Saddman.
Islamic states need to realize that Nukes are like guns. When you have a gun in your house it is much more likely that you will shoot a member of your own family, than a burglar. Irans missles can barely reach Israel, and certainly not the "Great Satan".
The likelihood that a nuclear war will break out within Islamic countries is much higher that most Muslims would want to believe. Never happen you say? Check wind directions for the fallout....
The sites may out of reach of the IAEA, but not from Tomahawk cruise missiles.
OG… it’s not how far their missiles can reach… some Jihandi Hijabi woman can hide one under her voting booth to smuggle it into the US. They must be stopped.
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Its called radio active rod just for amreeka....
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The sites may out of reach of the IAEA, but not from Tomahawk cruise missiles.
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Are we talking about same tomyhawks that SUCKsuccefully took care of kimy boys nukes....
hallelujah
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Islamic states need to realize that Nukes are like guns. When you have a gun in your house it is much more likely that you will shoot a member of your own family, than a burglar. Irans missles can barely reach Israel, and certainly not the "Great Satan".
The likelihood that a nuclear war will break out within Islamic countries is much higher that most Muslims would want to believe. Never happen you say? Check wind directions for the fallout....
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Hmmm Finally, it is clear to me why we went to Iraq; to shoot a member of our family.
They're just playing America at her own game. Had they not entered negotiation, they would not have had the support of the IAEA or the EU, and hence would be seen as a legit target to occupy. Smart move I would say, to get the IAEA on to your side, esp when your enemy trying its best to intimidate.
Can you believe it; even the EU is telling the US to put a sock in it.
See the ground realities in Iran are different from Iraq and Afghanistan. So, US would think twice before attacking Iran.
I am all for Iran retaining its sovereignty over its nuclear program because I believe every state has a right to acquire such a capabilty. Well, remember Israel is also in illegal possession of nuclear weapons but you would never hear US a word about it nuclear program.
OG, Iranian misslies aren't meant for the Great Satan. But I must commend you on your conspiracy theory. I think chances are remote that the Islamic countries would use this weapon against eachother.
^ You don't think Iraq or Iran wouldn't have used them in their war against each other or during the Gulf War? Your faith in "ummah love" and the stability/extremism of current and future Muslim governments is much greater than mine. But mine isn't based on blind faith but on history and reality.
What in the world does Iran need nukes for? Isreal is justified for it is surrounded by morons. Who is Iran worried about?
why does anyone need or want nukes?
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^ You don't think Iraq or Iran wouldn't have used them in their war against each other or during the Gulf War? Your faith in "ummah love" and the stability/extremism of current and future Muslim governments is much greater than mine. But mine isn't based on blind faith but on history and reality.
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Seminole: Forget Iran Iraq. You think that India or Pakistan would hesitate to use nukes if they are in a serious stand-off.
A nation acquires CBRNs NOT as deterrents but to use them should the need arise.
You don't put a condom on if you don't want to f*$k.
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What in the world does Iran need nukes for? Isreal is justified for it is surrounded by morons. Who is Iran worried about?
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Madhanee: Iran used to be the great Persian empire once upon a time. They were the badmash of the ma-halla, well the ma-halla became a big city and they feel left out.
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I am all for Iran retaining its sovereignty over its nuclear program because I believe every state has a right to acquire such a capabilty. Well, remember Israel is also in illegal possession of nuclear weapons but you would never hear US a word about it nuclear program.......
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Minerva: I agree every country should possess CBRNs. This way everyone is on the same playing field. "You will never hear U.S b#$ch about Israel" Thats right. When a midget (israel)holds the balls (tut*as) of a giant (U.S) the giant is rendered useless. They call that a Khassi in Punjabi. So U.S is a Khassi wherever Israel is concerned.
When a Gov of NJ can get a homo from Israel and put him incharge of homeland security and everyone looks the other way alone speaks volumes about these tut$aless citizens.
Well, Seminole...ah! I didn't take history into account and that is indeed a grave mistake but then we never learn from history. However, I was talking about the future when I wrote that the Islamic countries won't attack eachother (sweeping generalisation, eh) but my premise was based on whats going on in Iraq and Afghanistan. The blatant US aggression in a way has aroused emotions amongst the muslim populace across the Islamic world. So, now there is a bigger enemy to contend with, hence I rule out such a possibility of their nuking each other altogether.
As for Iran and Iraq, of course they would have nuked each other, had they been in possession of nuclear bombs. Didn't one of them use the biological weapons against the Iraqi citizens that reside in the border areas adjoing Iran? But I see a changed scenario now and for some strange reason I am utterly optimistic. My stance can be wrong altogether but rest assure, it isn't driven by the love for Ummah.
Had I been thinking about Islamic bomb, believe me I would never have wanted any other nation form Morroco to Malasya to acquire the capability beside Pakistan. As much as I am cognizant of the danger inherent in using these weapons, I must say the bigger powers also need to shun their double standards.
Iran is definitly taking the North Korean path but then US would never want to do another NKorea with Iran. I mean no engagement when it comes to Iran?? why?? I mean demonizing a country and stripping it of its right while alowing others to pursue their nefarious designs is just out right wrong.
I mean there is a need for consistent policy when it comes to the countries that are out of the league of those 5 +3 de jure and de facto nuclear powers, otheriwise, I see NPT going down the drain...
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..... The blatant US aggression in a way has aroused emotions amongst the muslim populace across the Islamic world. So, now there is a bigger enemy to contend with, hence I rule out such a possibility of their nuking each other altogether.
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You ain't seen nothing yet! Arabian Biddus were the first to attack Khalifas with the help of "big enemy" of yesteryears called "Great Britain". Islamic world is simply a metphor to help few people sit on sand and drink Gahwa (arabian tea). As soon as gahwa is finished swords come out.
Just another day the same Islamic Mullahs killed 63 FC jawans knowing fully well that "big enemy" is sitting right across the border. These butchers (proclaiming to be Muslims) mutilated bodies of our soldiers while the "big enemy" looked on.
The bottom line is that Islam hase never stopped people from murdering each other while a bigger danger lurked just on the other side of the sand dune. So let us not pin our precious hope on a bunch of Mullahtic idiotics.
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.....Iran is definitly taking the North Korean path but then US would never want to do another NKorea with Iran. I mean no engagement when it comes to Iran?? why?? I mean demonizing a country and stripping it of its right while alowing others to pursue their nefarious designs is just out right wrong.
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NK model is big with left leaning writers these days. However they forget that NK hasn't gone out of its borders. NK is dirt poor basket case utterly dependent on Western handouts for food and fuel. Invasion of NK will be quick and severe as soon as little kim kim violates rules of his area.
Iran however has different neighborhood so it has to follow a different set of rules.
I don't know how Pakistanis are describing this as Iranian birth right to possess nukes.
All of us have birth right to own 5 acres of land or 5000 sq foot house. However you have to have credit history in order to qualify for the loans (I am assuming that people who have the money already have the land or the house or both).
With Iran's checkered credit history, Ayatullahs should be happy that they have not been obliterated by now.
I know Pakistani Mullahtics will challenge me about Iranian credit score. Unfortunately I am not the one issuing those scores. Credit socres is maintained by big three (I'm forgetting their names right now) US companies.
Let me explain it further by example of my beloved country. Pakistan supported US for 40 years and got good scores. The result is obvious that Pakistan was allowed to have the toys.
Libya's score was bad but Gaddah-fi saw the light and transferred all of his toys to good ole toy-keeper. Iran better learn from Gaddah-fi and back off.
Well let's see who is smarter Gaddah-fi the shaven one, or Ayatullahs the bearded ones. Only time will tell.