Iran plans decency houses for prostitutes.:( :(

I think to legitmise an illegal activity deemed by majority of islamic people is a downward slide in the name of tolerence ,secularism & solving social problems in unislamic ways.

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If every body had the freedom to do whatever one can do in choosing the lesser evil arbitrily determined by him/her instead of shia & sunni we can have billin sects with its own interpretations

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http://headlines.sify.com/popwin.html

Iran plans decency houses for prostitutes

Tehran, July 30

After more than two decades of subjecting kerbcrawlers to the lash, Iran’s Islamic regime is thinking the unthinkable _ in the face of an explosion of street prostitution, it is floating plans to set up state-approved ‘decency houses.’

Conservatives, who still run the courts and security services here, have been quick to slam the proposals as anything but decent, making it far from certain they will ever be put into practice.

But the very fact that they are being openly aired in the press has shattered one of conservative Islam’s strongest taboos and is the talk of every cab rank and fast-food store in this city.

The proposals being floated take advantage of a peculiar tradition of Shiite Islam, the majority sect here, which allows for ‘temporary marriage’ or sigheh.

Street prostitutes picked up by the religious police or other security forces would be given a choice _ take the assistance of social services to give up their profession, or accept a placement in a state-sponsored ‘decency house’ where they could contract temporary marriages with their clients.

Customers would pay a dowry rather than a fee and would be able to set the duration of the ‘marriage contract.’

The ‘decency houses’ would not be open to any male _ only those with identity cards proving they were bachelors, widowers, or married to women incapacitated by physical or mental illness would be admitted.

Certain Tehran hotels have already been earmarked for possible use, the newspapers said.

The Persian-language media was coy about exactly which government ministries were behind the taboo-breaking proposals.

But Deputy Interior Minister for Social Affairs Ashraf Borujerdi told the BBC that her department had helped draw up the proposals.

“Some people believe that talking about such issues is taboo, but they are part of the reality of society, and turning a blind eye will not solve the problem,” the BBC quoted Borujerdi as saying.

And the rapidly expanding scale of the problem amidst Iran’s mounting economic crisis _ as many as 300,000 women are now reckoned to work the streets _ means that the proposals are finding some unlikely supporters.


Wohi Hota Hai Jo Munzoore Khuda Hota Hai … :nahna:

disgusting

well Im surprised that anyone is brave enough to try the idea in Iran .

I dont think it will work because prostitutes are trying to earn money and a lot of theyre clients are married men.

and I cant see meny people showing identity cards going to see them when there will still be prostitutes working the streets .

What an idea...surely it isn't likened to those that marry for money on divorce!


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Sigheh or mutaah, what a concept, basically prostitution with a claimed religious stamp of approval. Intruiging.

I might have to go to tehran now.

Madcon …what do you mean by marrying for money after divorce

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Dowry is downright equally despecable

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And above all those that reduce mariage to only SEX miss reproductive side ,Family rearing growing devloping …attachment ,bonds,stability ,above all divine ly accepted norm of life .If it aint broken Dont to fix it !!!

I dont want to boast but TEMPORARY abstinence (wait till u get married )isnt impossible ,nor that remarkablly difficult achievement .Sex isnt like water & fod that you cant livemonths years without .And few years of abstinence is free of any bad sideffects ,i can gurantee you

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Wohi Hota Hai Jo Munzoore Khuda Hota Hai … :nahna:


Johnny

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I am sorry if it seems i am putting down practice or concept in past hundred even thousand years ago.

How hard is it to wait for couple of years before you get married.

As you yourself suggested prostitution is not a NEED b/c then why would MARRIED MEN would go ,unless it was a vice or mental state of perversion which is not acceptable by society (all hindu christioan muslim jews)

Even if you are realist the most liberal you can be is what it is in USA ,that is regulated by license ,police monitoriong etc.I am not suggesting usa is the acceptable way to deal but as an example western permissiveness liberalism & loose callous & cavellier attitude towards sexual indescretions.
I know many shia who condemn temporary marriage just as other muslims dont like strict purdah ,chador /hijab/burqa/segregation of opp.sex.

Like everything ,practices 1500 yrs ago were quiet natural to social behaviour at that time.Since in order to be true adherent ,wew r afraid of not to deviate from exact replica fromm the 600A.D islam is to forget that islam allows IJTIDAD …which is some degree of interpretation, discussion & introspection.
By letting young girl believe that its o.k. to be used as prostitute in the name of long forgotten practice is not better than keeping the lid on the social garbage that prostitution is.Yes garbage has to be dealt with but not by just labelling it with fancy word like “BY PRODUCTS” and thinking otherwise .It may alleviate your mind from disposing the garbage like before but still Garbage is garbage and needs to be dealt with by DISPOSING it into a dump where it is best belongs for now.

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[This message has been edited by Gymnasophyst (edited August 02, 2002).]

The other thing that worries me is will there be an age limit for this.
I was reading on another site a post about temporary marriages and one girl was I think 14 or 15, and had been married to 4 old Arab men the age of her grandfather.
I think this was in India although IM not sure, And they had brought in a law to count the number of marriages that a girl could have.
It seems a dishonest solution in that at least in countries like Holland where you have this sort of thing legalised it isn't called a marriage, but what it is.

Weird right?
I thought one was to be happily married

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** Mu Hu Hahahahahaha!**:hoonh:
"Quote the Mu,“NeverMu!”
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Agar Pyar Maango toh Hasrat Millegi
Chaman Zindagi ke Hazaaron Killeinge
Magar Eik Dil ki Kali Nah Kiley Gi

You guys havent seen STD …sexually transmitted Disease And im not talking about AIDS HIv or more serious Syphillis ,…
It would scare the hell just to see the the picture not to speak of the sufferings of the patients

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In countries where you have state controlled prostitution you don’t have high levels of STD’s among the prostitutes.
And I personally don’t see why we should interfere between consenting adults.
I just don’t like the hypocracy of useing the term marriage

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“The big difference
between sex for money
and sex for free
is that sex for money
usually costs
a lot less.”

i READ YOUR URL.

I am not talking of curtailing any bodies rights.But as muslim & if majority of a country want a LAW it CANNOT assure all the wishes of single & individual rights .
AS TO MUSLIMS OR ANY OTHER INSTITUTIONS REASONS some othr day later..need to go …


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[This message has been edited by Gymnasophyst (edited August 07, 2002).]

I didnt really understand your reply :0)

ghalat baat ghalat hai.. weather it be legal or illegal..
but since it is one of the tragic part of the world..shudn't the government try to decrease it instead of making it lawful..especially in the country like iran where lesbians and gays are stonned to death and where there is actually a "religious police". wudnt prostitution encourage such things as well?


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I don’t think anyone buys this plan (not even the Iranian themselves). Checkout the site http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2156975.stm


There are no stupid questions…but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.

I read recently that a Iranian islamic cleric was arrested for transporting young girls into a arab country for prostitution .
it doesnt seem to be working all this stoneing people .
I just feel Iran is like russia was like before the berlin wall came down .
people telling you how great commonism is and killing you if you disagree.
and the people not likeing it but to scared and brainwashed to say anything .
and I think its going to go the same way

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Johnny

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Johnny besides what already wrote which was ambiguous.

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Muslims majority countrues have mostly laws influenced if not direct copy of sharia.

Hence majority pass laws in country X to ban this .Now a minority say 10% of the people in country X is hindu .It is not religous right of hindu to practice prostitutions .So as part of oprotecting Hindu & there religous freedom ,Country X has full right to IMPOSE there law on every body in the Country X …IRRESPECTIVE OF INDIVIDUALITY …One person dont constitute importence ./

In christiann countries
Europe it is legal & yes they get health services but still MORAL PART cannot be acceptable b/c Islam doesnt ask state to raise the family as in all socialized european & to some extent north America.

If ppl. use sex only for pleasure what sanctity of reproduction father mother family will remain…Wait a minute we havent conquered all sexually transmitted diseses & side effects …AID is incurable as of now


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you bring up some very interesting points if the majority of people in a country make laws that you think are wrong should you obey them as a individual.

I dont think you should in my own country I breaklaws regarding smoking marjuana for example .

its illegal at the moment in the uk ,but I think that its less harmfull than tobacco.

and I dont think its the goverments business what I do with my body.

if the goverment told me tomorrow to eat a low fat diet because I was likly to get a heartattack .

and made it illegal to eat fatty food if I wanted to eat fatty food I would.

you get country like nazi germany where following the majority I feel would be morally wrong.

There are things that I think are wrong war murder rape stealing ect because they hurt other people.

forcing a women into prostitution would be wrong .

but if she wanted to do it either because see liked sex a lot or money a lot .

and the men who went to her were choosing to go there
I would think it was theyre business.

if we made it a law for muslims to eat pork and to walk around naked would you obey it .

I doubt that you would and I dont think that you should even if the majority of people told you to .

my main worry about Iran is that because of religous reasons aids will spread like crazy .

if you think about it 300,000 prostitutes but what are the number of men seeing them its going to be a much higher number than 300,000 .

and a lot of these men will be married and most likely they will give aids to theyre wives and children .

it could be a terrible situation .

condoms do prevent the spread of aids and sexually transmitted diseases .

and expecting that even in a muslim country everybody to not have out of marriage sex I think is unrealistic

I BET MY AST DOLLAR YOU WONT EVEN THINK OF BREAKING THE LAW IF THERE WAS A WAY TO ENFORCE IT & PUNISHMENT WAS FAST SWIFT & DEADLY

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I know ppl. break laws b/c u know you canm burn the cd without anybody knowing that you broke the fcc law .

Thee are many countries undeveloped as you say …they behave & take advantage of being underdevloped compared to your U.K. to act like theocratic or dictatorial or DEMOCKERY as in India & Sanghi Parivar

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Wohi Hota Hai Jo Munzoore Khuda Hota Hai … :nahnah:

well I thought in Iran the law was swift and deadly .
and yes I would break the law ,and all these iranians know what could happen to them but they still break the law .
very likely I would become a corrupt mullah or member of the religous police :0)to improve my chances of getting away with it