Iran,Islam & Those Bashing Islam.

One of my colleagues at work is from Iran…He is in his late 30’s,he came to USA in 1997…Apparently he shows that he is a Muslim…But when it comes to Islam…i haven’t seen anyone who can defame islam more then him…he drinks,eat pork & has thousands of girl friends…whenever he talks to me ,he is sarcastic of i being a muslim & islam being terrible/terrorist…i have seen his sisters & mom…all of whom wear skirts with bare tops…He has offered me alcohol many times,even knowing that i m a muslim(sometimes not even telling me that it’s an alcoholic drink…which i hate)…

He says that Iran is a very open society & they used to do the similar things in iran…Alcohol is prevalent & sex is not a problem…I have decided to tell him for once that it’s not cool to talk islam with me ,as i wouldn’t be that cool if he tries to bash islam…it is unethical & unprofessional to defame my religion in front of my face…I don’t care if it may lead a big fight later on…

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Good on you, you dont have to put up with his childish behaviour....tell him to grow up.

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Agree with Miss Daisy here ... if he's disrespecting something you love and value, you have ever single right to ask him to back off with his rantings when he is with you.

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we have so many iranis here who r like him ..also some afghans ...

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Does he also brag about how white he is and that he is Aryan?

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What i don't like is that....if you are a muslim,but somehow you don't like islam...call muslims with all the bad names & do all those things that are against islam...Why don't you come out & declare yourself a "non muslim"....rather then back stabbing islam....

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Yes i guess most iranians in west like to brag about being aryans…& being persians rather then muslims…they love navrauz rather then ramzaan…

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The Turks are the same ... I had a Turkish friend who used to smoke while she was apparantly fasting. namaz - i dont think she'd even heard of it. Went to a Turkish mosque and the women were wearing knee-high skirts!

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Many moons ago I used to work with somebody who was Pakistani...she was alot older than me and had left home when she was young and never saw her family, she did things like spend all her free time supporting a football club ..Euuuurrgghh! and other equally stupid things

anyway she used to comment every now and again about how much better her life was to mine.. until a day when I calmly told her a few home truths

she realised that I was just as or more so..... free and strong as her...

anyway didnt hear a peep from her

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He’s an immature brat, tell him to grow up. Fair enough he doesn’t fancy Islam for himself but he should have respect for your beliefs, tell him to learn a bit of respect and courtesy, forcing alcohol and pork in your face is just damn immature and ignorant (I've had a white boy do that to me saying "go on ave a bacon butty", soon put him in his place).

It’s true the vast majority of Iranians couldn’t give a rats rear about religion, before the Revolution there was no strict rules in Iran so they were openly very unislamic, the Shi’ite revolution didn’t do much because there was no spiritual power in that ideology, nothing special which they didn’t have already from Zoroastrianism, minus the strict rules and regulations.

Talking from personal experience Islamic rules and regulations feel like a burden when you’re not spiritually in tune with the religion but once you are it becomes worth it and the rules and regulations just make you feel content and secure that you’re doing something right. Without the strong spiritual connection, people who are slaves to lust and evil can be a bit over faced with Islamic rules and they just rebel.

One thing which really irritates me about Iranians is they’ll look as DESI as anything yet they keep going on about this fake ARYAN pride, which is really irritating because they’ve had far too many different races mixed into them by now, the Europeans actually snigger at them for it. Some Afghans tend to look more Caucasoid than Iranians, and I’m one of them whose family was originally Afghan but it’s not something I’m proud of, I find brown skin, dark eyes and black hair much more attractive.

Even the extremely devout Iranians are not very moral by our standards, women are hussies because of Mut’ah (temporary marriage which deafeats the purpose of a marriage, may as well allow dating as long as the boy gives her a present and she waits a waiting period before slutting around with another), also sometimes their religion resembles Paganism more than Islam, they hang up pictures of the Imams and pray to them, may as well have been Zartosht, it is sometimes, a lot wear the Zartosht with wings sign and celebrate Nowroz with more fervour than Eid, my family use to but we made it was seem as an Islamic thing but now it's fazed out because we know it's nothing to do with Islam.

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But turks wouldn’t insult you like that (i heard turks considers pakistanis as their friends?).

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Even shia’ism I believe (not followed 100% or maybe indopak shias are more radical?) that was adopted by Persians I think comes in part to distinguish themselves from Sunni Arabs who defeated them in the eighth century!

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Usually it’s the Shi’ite Hazara Afghans and northern Uzbek and others who are like that.

Pashtuns are not usually like that, I must admit Tajiks can be a bit less conservative but no more than Punjabi or Karachi people.

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I’ve been to Ishmela and like Pakistanis they vary, you get the ones who drink and date and the good boys.

We met a few Kurdish lads and there was some who were very good Muslims but you had some who thought drinking in moderation is just fine.

I’ve never met a Turkish or Arab person who is a dog though, I’ve met plenty of ugly and stuck up Iranian and even Afghan dogs though who think they can look down on Pakistanis, they’ve spoke negatively about Pakistanis thinking I’m not one and I’ve gone psycho.

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and what exactly is the point of this thread ** "Iran,Islam & Those Bashing Islam."

few **ed up iranis don't represent Iran and Islam ok..grow up**
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It is more complicated than that the Ummayyad rulers treated even the converted iranian muslims as trash (same for all non-arabs)
The ShianeAli on the other hand included Prophet(PBUH) great comapnions like Salman(R.A) a persian and Muhammad bin abubakr(R.A) who was married to a iranian princess naturally the iranians were treated much better by this faction,following the commandment of Prophet(PBUH) that arab is not superior to non-arab.
True Shia converion came much later by the safavids

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My friend date a kandhari girl (heartland of pashtuns) so? :rolleyes:

Actually many communists were of pashtun stock (who also invited russia) than tajiks (actually close to none in governments preceding to soviet invasion).

Maybe you are trying to limit pathans to nwfp then you deobandi wahabi conservation theory might actually hold.

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I know about the conversion (some say many sunni iranis were killed? as iran was sunni before the safavid turks? = azeris? started ruling the country).

All I know now is that maybe over the years iranis use shiaism as a way to show their uniqueness from Arabs while secular / nonreligious ones use anciet pre-Islam persian traditions (like nouruz) to show their pride in their once great civilization (though defeated by arabs or even greeks).

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Blitz, i’m so prou dof you.. ur acutally smart and sound quite intelligent.. :teary1: :hug:

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^ Do I know you? :confused: