Iran Announces Production of 'High Precision' Attack Drones

heat signature and stealth? wow! you think stealth is by low heat signature? my GOD! awright man....tell me when you've read something about stealth and we'll engage.

China and Russia have for years have been trying to hack US Systems to steal information but so far have not penetrated deep into the Pentagon.

Iran on the other hand has never hacked into the Pentagon to steal anything vital.

Its not so easy to steal something and quickly build it.

The Computers, Cameras, Radars, and other equipment requires complex processes to build.

As for the drones themselves, they are good for anti-terrorist operations like the Taliban but are pretty useless against Conventional Forces which can easily shoot them down.

Thats true if the relay station is on the ground. But when you have to minimize the whole system to fit into a drone which has fly thousands of feet into the air, then that's a completely different process.

Yeah ok buddy.....

Your entire defense of Iran's Nonsense is keep repeating that they are not dificult to build.

If that is the case, why is Turkey, Greece, UK, Pakistan and other countries want these UAV's?

If they are so easy to build, why don't they build it themselves.

Please acquire some military knowledge before you comment.

RCS-reduction is the most important factor in modern "stealth" designs. Reducing radio signature in UAV's (i.e. stealthy shapes) is pointless, because the trackers would not be able to differentiate the dopplers of a bird from a UAV.

Many of these methods do not even require ground stations; the mission is preprogrammed (i.e. using TERPROM & GPWS). Either way, none of these require satellites.

They do build it themselves! Turkey, Greece, UK, and Pakistan already have UAV's and have been producing/developing them for decades. If they can build cruise-missiles (considering the fact that CM's are advanced drones) and control stations for their ballistic missiles, whats the problem with building basic drones & their stations?
Obviously your knowledge of military applications is quite meager.

Quite an American utopian mentality; you really have no proof to backup those claims.

How easily? Which tracking method is used? How is the ammunition guided?

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^ you are simply wrong. It is all about radar signature, unless you’ll claim Lockheed knows less than whatever your source is!

“[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]For the first time, every aspect of the F-117 was designed around stealth. For the plane’s designers, reducing the radar signature was similar to the way that airplane designers of the 1920s had reduced drag: they identified the biggest causes of the problem and then eliminated them one by one. The cockpit, which is essentially a cavity that reflects radar in much the same way that an animal’s eyes reflect light from a flashlight at night, was sharply angled and coated with a reflective material that deflected the radar energy in different directions. The airplane had no radar and its sensors and antennas could be retracted into the fuselage. The bombs, a major source of radar reflection on most airplanes, were stored internally in a bomb bay so that they reflected no radar energy. The inlets for the jet engines were covered with fine screens to prevent radar energy from reaching the face of the engine turbines. The exhaust was channeled through long narrow ducts lined with heat-absorbing material so that it was cooler by the time it exited the plane and therefore did not show up as well on heat detectors.”

Stealth Aircraft

Your argument & knowledge is very vague and basic.
What kind of radar signature are you speaking of? Radiation-based radar or infrared? And instead of copy/pasting a wiki excerpt regarding an F-117 (a totally different platform) that is 10-20x larger in size, please explain (what I asked earlier) how will a tracker differentiate between the dopplers of a bird from a UAV?

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^ and that is exactly why I suggested you go do some reading before attempting this. WHat do you want, a free lecture?

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My knowledge is sufficient, yours isn't. That is why you keep returning without any answers.

If they are pre-programmed then they are utterly useless. The drones have to be piloted remotely and move and change course according to the ground commanders.

Turkey, Greece, UK and Pakistan have produced UAV which are leagues behind the American UAV proramme which is exactly why all of them have lined up in purchasing American Armed UAV's.

Because the R&D that goes into making an Armed UAV is very extensive and quite expensive.

Something which you fail utterly to understand.

Thats like saying that if Pakistan started making its own Rickshaws then it can produce a Ferrari.

And neither do you.

Have you ever heard of Anti-Radiation Missiles?

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Try this one to start with:

http://muslimmedianetwork.com/mmn/?p=5610

“The image suggested a drone with a radar-evading stealth-like design, resembling a smaller version of a B-2 bomber.”

Notice that none of these specs, articles mention heat signature?

no this is utter bull**** by you,not by iran
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iran has satellites in orbit,and the stuff u mentioned above.

Iran has Satellites.

What can those Satellites do exactly? Bounce signals back and forth.

That technology is from the 1950's when Sputnik was launched.

Please don't post such stupid comments in the future.

M2K,

There is no way one can move lefties from anti-American stance. Or we can call them Saddami-Pakistanis.

They supported Saddam in the hopes that he will be new saladin. Once he was pulled out of dirt hole, Saddamis have now become Nejatis.

Once Nejati would be pulled out of the dirt hole, these Saddamis will move and find some other despot from the middle East.

Such is the life of Saddamis in Pakistan.

Many years ago, I met this Irani dude in Karachi. He was all gung ho about Iranian NOOKLER TEKHNOLOGY.

When someone said, that if a country (Pakistan included) cannot even make a single cylinder engine, how could they ever claim that they are making cars let alone KOOKLER plants.

He got angry in a typically middle eastern style.

If Iranians had a true NOOKLER TEKHNOLOGY, they would have already fixed their oil refineries.

Because the nuclear plants use the very similar piping and monitoring systems like oil refineries except that the tolerance limits are much tighter in case of NOOKLER TEKHNOLOGY.

As we have seen in case of Pakistan, that you can make a nukie toy, but don't claim that you have NOOKLER TEKHNOLOGY.

Similarly drone technology has its basis in designing and flying the ordinary planes, only much more sophisticated.

And Iranians are no plane makers.

However these points are valid only for the unemotional, cool minded folks.

Our hot headed Middle Eastern tribals or their Pakistani lackies will never get it.

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to bounce signals from space, you don't even need satellites. just toss a piece of metal.

Question is - how to control it, what to do with it etc.

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Burqaposhz #33 is well articulated and should hopefully change some hardknocks. Hopefully.

Anyway, however complicated a device may be, the concept has to be clear and understandable. For a UAV drone, what is the intended mission? I'd think it is two-fold:
1) where the target theatre is known, to unobstrusively conduct surveilance
2) where the target theatre is unknown and too expensive to manuallly recke, provide a less expensive alternative

A 3rd can be added, which is arm it and shoot at targets remotely, but that is the lesses of the complicated missions, so we'll let that be.

Now, for #1, unobsrusive is important. This design violates all basic principles of stealth. they may as well tie a sony radio camcorder to a radioshack radio controlled toy plane.

For #2, they'll need quantity. Because if they send the UAV into populated areas, and it makes the propellor noise, I can shoot it down for under $10.

Most importantly, wth does Iran want a drone for? the only purpose I can think of is to send it into Pakistan to watch those Jundulla guys.

dude who are u some official spokesmen for the iranian govt?why would iran inform every tom,dick and harry like you of their achievements?and stop giving sweeping statements on stuff you are not an authority on.
peace

no offence but what do canadian satellites in orbit bounce back and forth?clowns like you?roflol.

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Iran showing fastest scientific growth of any country in the world

Iran showing fastest scientific growth of any country - science-in-society - 18 February 2010 - New Scientist

So you can make nuclear bombs without acquiring nuclear tech? hmmm

Also if Iran doesn't have the nuclear capability why is the west all over Iran?

Can you backup your claims that neither Pakistan nor Iran have nuclear capabilities?

:rotfl: "and the “stuff you mentioned above…”? do you have any idea what #3 in his list means, about the engine? You expect what altitude and noise level from this propellor?

:smack: as Vinny said, may be laws of physics don’t apply in Alabama, Iran and Pakistan