Re: Iran accuses pakistan of suicide attack
I guess Iran will retaliate by increasing its activities in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan. It could mean increased attacks on each other by pro-Iran and Pro Saudi groups in Pakistan.
^^ and do you have any proof of these allegations?
What do you mean by "Do YOU have any proof of these allegations"?
Do YOU as a person have proof of any allegations that are to be found in many of your posts? Does ANY of the member on this forum has ANY proof of any allegations they make about other party- regardless of which side they are on?
Stop acting like a kid.
There are plausible reasons to believe USA and its cronies are involved in terrorism and other sabotage activities around the world.
Hundreds of respectable people from USA, UK and other western countries (including former CIA spies) have written on the topic. This also includes the Pulitzer award winner Seymour Hersh, who has written about how much money USA is paying to Jandullah terrorists and other terrorist groups.
Go search for it and don't be paranoid, they won't cancel your nationality or raid your house for reading that material.
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^^ in other words NO
^^ Learn to read.
I guess Iran will retaliate by increasing its activities in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan. It could mean increased attacks on each other by pro-Iran and Pro Saudi groups in Pakistan.
How about Iran retaliating by speeding up the transition from Dollar to Euro (or other currencies) to sell oil/gas?
Not bad, eh? :)
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Baluchistan is the largest part of Pakistan area wise & most definitely the most underdeveloped region. There is hardly any infrastructure and the is no law present except for whats dictated and brutally enforced by the local lords or tribal leaders........Govt does give a damn abt them and if any non government org tries to make any effort to either educate or empower the locals then they get harassed off by the local lords who wud rather have the locals jahil for the rest of their lives so they cud keep on serving them...........what has Pakistani government (this one and the previous ones) done to stop this?.............ZILCH
I love my country like my fellow countrymen BUT we must ask ourselves that why are we as a nation home to all these outfits who r hellbent on destruction at a large scale? One lashkar publicly aims for a "humiliating defeat" to the Hindus next door in India.......another wants to "free Afghanistan" and beat the super-power of the day.......another one wants to throw off the "kaafir Shia" Iranian govt!!!............man, are we caught up in a deep mess or what!.......I am so sorry to say this but if we r unwilling to acknowledge and clear this mess that we have created due to our own ignorance and negligence, then we have very little ground to be upset if the other nations do.......
How about Iran retaliating by speeding up the transition from Dollar to Euro (or other currencies) to sell oil/gas?
Not bad, eh? :)
Iran could do that, I suppose but there may be difficulties with that. Iran does want to sell its oil in world markets and such a move might make it difficult. I don't know the mechanics of oil sale in world market but if it was easy Iran would have done that by now. No?
Increasing activities of pro Irani terrorists in neighboring countries is probably much easier and most effective (from Iran's POV). The war between Iran and Saudi related groups in Afghanistan and Pakistan has been going on for last 30 years, increasing the temperature there seems more likely.
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^could you plz name a few "pro Irani terrorists" as you put them?
About the proxy war in Afghanistan and Pakistan- Iran, India, Russia, all supported the Northern Alliance against the Wahabhi Talibans in Afghanistan (understandably so) but what proxy war are you talking about taking place in Pakistan?
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This attack is due to Iran's own internal policy failures. they have discriminated aginast the Balochi Sunni minority and tehy are paying the price for it....
Re: Iran accuses pakistan of suicide attack
^how wud u responsed if a Jihadi said to u that a suicide attack in Spain, UK, or USA is due to their own foreign policy failure?
btw, I have been to Pakistani Balochistan and crossed over to Iranian side and there is a marked difference b/w the two sides. I saw on the Iranian side atleast one very good university (University of Balochistan), colleges, schools, and beautiful mosques......YES, Iranian Balochistan is one of the least developed areas of Iran, reason for which I dont know, but its definitely not as bad as painted by the the propagandists....
hanibal,
How do you about what exactly happenend in the past?
There were reports that one of the Rigi brothers was arrested in Pakistan sometime back and that news went silent. Given that jihadi elements are operating in that broad area and our own sectarian tanzeems are partnered with the Taliban, it is possible that Jundullah people are in Baloch border areas. Have you forgotten that Iran almost declared war on us after Sipah-e-Sahaba goons went alongside Taliban and massacred Iranian diplomats in Mazar-e-Sharif. They were sent there by our brilliant GHQ as "dedicated fighters" without realizing their real sectarian goals.
We must make it clear to Tehran that public accusations will be met with strong counters, but remember that our government promised to work with Iran after the previous attack, but nothing happened.
We have to get real about the "tiger by the tail" problem as Jalaluddin notes above, because jihadi and Takfiri elements have no limits on what causes they support.
Yes, counter Iran's statement strongly but we must take action and take control of our land. Too many jihadi/Takfiri elements from all over the world are using us for their evil causes.
We are taking action, what else do you want, nuke the whole Pakistani population?
Iran if have some evidence of showing involvement of someone from Pakistan side the attack, then yes they need to share it with Pakistan, pointing fingers and playing blame games is not suitable, and like is said, it would not help Iran in any way.
On the different note, Why Iran is so frustrated? in their country, where freedom of speech and protest against "democratically elected govt" is taken as rebellion against govt? where every protest and bad doing is blamed on USA/UK earlier Iraq now Pakistan??
How about Iran retaliating by speeding up the transition from Dollar to Euro (or other currencies) to sell oil/gas?
Not bad, eh? :)
Yhe aaj tak eak dhang key refinery nahi bana sakay! oil trade maiN kiya influence dekhayaiN gay???
^how wud u responsed if a Jihadi said to u that a suicide attack in Spain, UK, or USA is due to their own foreign policy failure?
I would agree that he has a right to be angry but totally disagree if he threatened to use terrorism to seek revenge
btw, I have been to Pakistani Balochistan and crossed over to Iranian side and there is a marked difference b/w the two sides. I saw on the Iranian side atleast one very good university (University of Balochistan), colleges, schools, and beautiful mosques......YES, Iranian Balochistan is one of the least developed areas of Iran, reason for which I dont know, but its definitely not as bad as painted by the the propagandists....
I haven't been to Sistan Balochistan. But I do know that Iran has several low level insurgencies such as the one in Balochistan and in their north with the Azeri province and near the border with Iraq where the Mujahadeen al Haq are based.
The Balochi area may be developed but that doesnt mean there isnt discrimination.
In 1970's Pakistan and Iran jointly put down an insurgency by Balochis
We are taking action, what else do you want, nuke the whole Pakistani population?
What action are we taking, really?
We tolerate jihadi tanzeems, but act only when they bite the hand they feed.
We allow jihadi madaris to proliferate and collect chanda and qurbani kay khaal with no pressure
We waited till 9/11 and US "danda" before we realized that Taliban and Al Qaeda are "bad" people
Go to Binori town in Karachi you will find the mother of all groups like Jundullah, Sipah-e-Sahaba etc. operating openly. Why? Even today listen to Khutbas at Lal Masjid and youl will find jihadi group support out in the open and this is in our capital!
We denied that any of the Rigi brothers were in Pakistan but when Iran threatened last time we quietly handed over the younger brother to them
We wait until jihadi groups and hteir supporters in Pakistan attack other countries before we act.
Can you blame others if they think that only threats will force Pakistan to act?
Who gives a hoot to what this international pariah aka mini-hitler Nejat has to say about Pak.
If he was a mature leader, he would have waited a few days before contacting Pak authorities and given proof and worked with us to find the culprits.
The way he talked or more precisely barked, Pakistanis see no difference between Indian leadership and Iranian leadership. Both of these guys are just happy to shoot hot air at Pakistan.
Who can forget their Imam Khomeni started funding Shia-Jihadis in Pak, and it was done long before Sunni Jihadi showed up on the scene.
Right now, Iranians hang Balochi Sunnis with cranes and in return Balochi Sunnis blow up Iranians.
Global Arab Network | Iran will hang 14 Baloch in a public show | World Politics
This is clearly their internal mess, and yet they love to blame US, UK, Israel, Pakistan, Tom, Dick, Harry, Abdullah, and Anwar.
Shameful no doubt!
One of the pro-Iranian terrorist groups is the Sipah-e-Muhammad. Before 9/11 pro Saudi groups like Sipah-e-Sahaba, Lashkar-e-jhangvi, etc. and Sipah-e-Muhammad were quite active in Pakistan launching terrorist attacks again each other groups/sects.
Iran could do that, I suppose but there may be difficulties with that. Iran does want to sell its oil in world markets and such a move might make it difficult. I don't know the mechanics of oil sale in world market but if it was easy Iran would have done that by now. No?
Actually Iran has already started to sell oil in Euros for some time now.
And I guess it is going to speed up the process.
Russia, China, Japan, Brazil and some other Middle Eastern countries are looking forward to join within few years time.
Sipha e Mohammad was formed as a reactionary force by the Shias to counter the crimes that were being committed by the Wahabhis against both Shias and the Sunnis…the objective was to protect the mosques/high targets from the attacks…could you plz show me any suicide bombing or a mosque bombing carried out by Sipha e Mohammad?
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^^ Nussairee, actually I have to agree with Ajju. There was a time when some groups were being funded by Iran to counter Saudi influence in Pakistan.
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^Saudi influence???
And i dont disagree that Iran supported groups…good on them for aiding innocent ppl under attack…they supported both Shias and the Sunnis against the Wahabhis…
a good read: Asia Times