9 Nov … Iqbal Day..
What you think about today 9/11/2010.
My question is that Iqbal the philosopher and great poet of Pakistan, we are fellowing the Iqbal ideology or not and If we follow what will be do Say your comments
Iqbal is National poet of many countries . According to Iran citizens ," the revolution In Iran (Islami Inqlab) is due to Iqbal and today status of Iran is due to Iqbal"
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My question is that Iqbal the philosopher and great poet of Pakistan,
why do we claim the ownership on Iqbal when he probably never heard of the name Pakistan in his life.
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^^ yes, the person who have given the vision of Pakistan shouldn't be associated with Pakistan.. great going..great logic keep it up!!!
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^^ yes, the person who have given the vision of Pakistan shouldn't be associated with Pakistan.. great going..great logic keep it up!!!
I did not use the word 'association'. I said 'ownership'.
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Why are we still fighting on the issue of Allama Iqbal when we have successfully ditched the man's philosophy down the drain?
The first discussion post calls him "poet of Pakistan" and the socond post took those words alone from the post and started questioning the intent of the poster. Fair. But why was the bold part ignored?
To be politically correct, Allama Iqbal is not called the poet of Pakistan but he is considered poet of the east.
And to answer about if he was a Pakistani or Hindustani or whatever? He was born in Sialkot, lived in Lahore, died and buried in Lahore. These places were part of India during his life time but are now big cities of Pakistan. He saw a dream of a separate nation-state and worked for it. His descendents are Pakistanis.
He was born and died as hindustani. If he was alive, he would very well be a Pakistani. He did not live to see Pakistan but he definitely lived to bring Pakistan into reality.
Ironic that the only thing that kept him a hindustani and not a pakistani was death. What a powerful thing death truly is. It can make you one or the other. I think we should stop such controversial debates about his nationality and who 'owns' him and who does not. The better thing would be to give respect to who he was as a poet, as a philosopher, as a thinker and above all as a leader of Muslims of the sub-continent, and what he struggled for.
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I did not use the word 'association'. I said 'ownership'.
Come on, don't try to be Babar Awan...
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Why are we still fighting on the issue of Allama Iqbal when we have successfully ditched the man's philosophy down the drain?
The first discussion post calls him "poet of Pakistan" and the socond post took those words alone from the post and started questioning the intent of the poster. Fair. But why was the bold part ignored?
To be politically correct, Allama Iqbal is not called the poet of Pakistan but he is considered poet of the east.
And to answer about if he was a Pakistani or Hindustani or whatever? He was born in Sialkot, lived in Lahore, died and buried in Lahore. These places were part of India during his life time but are now big cities of Pakistan. He saw a dream of a separate nation-state and worked for it. His descendents are Pakistanis.
He was born and died as hindustani. If he was alive, he would very well be a Pakistani. He did not live to see Pakistan but he definitely lived to bring Pakistan into reality.
Ironic that the only thing that kept him a hindustani and not a pakistani was death. What a powerful thing death truly is. It can make you one or the other. I think we should stop such controversial debates about his nationality and who 'owns' him and who does not. The better thing would be to give respect to who he was as a poet, as a philosopher, as a thinker and above all as a leader of Muslims of the sub-continent, and what he struggled for.
you got it all right, Iqbal and his poetry ( message) is only used for speeches... nothing else... the nation has buried him and has forgotten about him...
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Come on, don't try to be Babar Awan...
excuse me!
Please dont twist my words and try to extract the meaning of your choice.
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excuse me!
Please dont twist my words and try to extract the meaning of your choice.
It is not me.. but you and your words creating ambiguity ... i just advised you to not to do what babar awan kind of people do...
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I think he is an idiot, babar awaan.
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I think he is an idiot, babar awaan.
I agree with you... :)
anyway.. i was just pulling your leg...
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I think he is an idiot, babar awaan.
The people from PPP looks you idiot only
Otherwise if you can see
It is idiotistan
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They have a right to be idiot as long as 'others' are idiot as well.
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Jaisi rooh waisay Farishtay
جیسی روح ویسے فرشتے
And every one will be angry if I said something about the man
Aah what a character
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lol...it amaze me to see how easily people go off-track...the thread was about Iqbal and ending up about idiots... :D
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lol...it amaze me to see how easily people go off-track...the thread was about Iqbal and ending up about idiots... :D
I tried to come back on topic idiotistan
Is it necessary to praise Iqbal on Iqbal day ?
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The people from PPP looks you idiot only Otherwise if you can see It is idiotistan
No Anwar, please dont take me wrong. Its not PPP or MQM or PML (N). I pretty much think the same way about all the politicians of Pakistan. I agree with your last line.
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No Anwar, please dont take me wrong. Its not PPP or MQM or PML (N). I pretty much think the same way about all the politicians of Pakistan. I agree with your last line.
Thank you
Now I will surprise you
Yesterday one of my friends a retired A officer told me abut a leader who claims to be the most honest person ( I hope no problem to understand and if you will see him now ,you will know the truth ) uses hashish and .......... that is normal .
Really Idiotistan
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I tried to come back on topic idiotistan Is it necessary to praise Iqbal on Iqbal day ?
Your reply to my post lead me to put you on ignore... :)
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I tried to come back on topic idiotistan Is it necessary to praise Iqbal on Iqbal day ?
No. It is absolutely not necessary to praise Iqbal on Iqbal day. It should not be a day to praise anyway. We praise Pakistan on Pakistan day, does it make any difference? :)
The politics of sub-continent, or of Pakistanis in the context of the current off-tangent discussion, is such that every one thinks of the other as idiot. Not that I disagree with the part of Babar Awan being idiot. But calling names is not a very bright idea on a discussion forum in my humble opinion.