Iqbal and Urdu day in India

So Iqbal was only a Pan-Islamic poet even after giving poems like ‘Sare jahan se acha Hindustan hamara’?

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Urdu Day has traditionally been celebrated on November 9, the birth anniversary of poet Allama Iqbal. However, there’s a small revolt of sorts in the offing.

Piqued by the growing misconception that Urdu is the language of Muslims alone (a canard that, apart from being historically untrue, also does disservice to the legions of non-Muslim writers and Urdu lovers who enriched the language and championed its cause), a group of university professors is attempting to restore to Urdu its secular character. Banding under the banner of the Jawaharlal Nehru University’s Centre of Indian Languages and the All India Association of Urdu Teachers of Colleges and Universities, their goal is to celebrate March 31 as Urdu Day. Reason: it was on this day that Pandit Deo Narayan Pandey and Jai Bahadur Singh died fighting for its rights.

Unlike Iqbal, Pandey and Singh were no Urdu poets. Supporters of the Urdu Muhafiz Dasta (Urdu Protection Squad), they were members of the group that staged a hunger strike to get Urdu the status of second official language in states like UP. “Pandey sat on the hunger strike on March 20, 1967, outside the collector’s office in Kanpur while Singh was part of the group which sat outside the UP assembly in Lucknow. Pandey died on March 31 while Singh died a few days later. We want to dedicate Urdu Day to the duo’s memory,” says Anwar Alam Pasha, an Urdu professor at JNU, who is spearheading the movement. Incidentally, the idea was first mooted by late Mohammed Hassan, a retired professor of Urdu at JNU, in the 1990s.

As a mark of respect to the sacrifice of Pandey and Singh, a movement to bring back Urdu into the mainstream education system will also be launched on March 31. “Teaching of Urdu must be facilitated in schools and colleges,” says Pasha.

Senior Urdu writers and journalists maintain that Pandey and Singh are more deserving of being remembered as champions of Urdu than Iqbal—and dedicating Urdu Day to them will help remove the misconception that the language belongs to Muslims alone. “Urdu symbolises our composite character. It is inherently secular. There cannot be a better example to prove it than the martyrdom of Pandey and Singh,” maintains Professor Ali Jawed of Delhi University. Adds senior Urdu columnist Hasan Kamaal, who had participated in Urdu Muhaffiz Dasta’s march in Mumbai in the late 1960s, “By participating in a hunger strike for the cause of Urdu and dying for it, they proved that a language has no religion.”

Many argue that one single poet or writer should not be remembered on an entire language’s behalf. “Ghalib was a bigger poet than Iqbal. Many say Meer was bigger than Ghalib. So why should we dedicate a day to Iqbal’s memory?” asks Professor Mohammed Kazim of Delhi University. **Iqbal’s controversial ideological moorings are another active discouragement. “Iqbal was a pan-Islamist. Pakistan regards him as its ideological founding father and celebrates November 9 as Iqbal Day. We should not celebrate his birthday as Urdu Day, and it is good that there is an effort to dedicate Urdu Day to two obscure champions of Urdu,” says Ather Farouqi, general secretary of Anjuman Taraqqi Urdu, an over-century-old organisation dedicated to propagation of the language.

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At a time when non-Muslim readers of Urdu are few and far between and the language is being increasingly banished to the madrassas, Urdu lovers feel that urgent steps are needed to preserve its secular character. And one of the steps, they say, is to find new heroes. “Urdu newspapers are developing a religious tone, and an impression is being created that Urdu has become Musalman,” says senior Urdu-Hindi columnist Feroz Ashraf. “This must be changed. And one way to change is to accord respect to selfless non-Muslim workers of Urdu like Pandey and Singh.”

Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India

Urdu is most unfortunate language in India, it is honored by writing on sign board, though 95% of Indians cannot read it :D

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**Nahin Khel E "Daagh" Logo Se Kah Do
Ke Aati Hai Urdu Zubaan Aate Aate.

**Oh the irony!!! even the best can be unfortunate. :( , but in my views unfortunate are those who have abandoned such sweet language and not urdu itself.

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The situation in Pakistan is also going to be worse day by day with the roman Urdu used in text messages and chatting coupled with popular fiction writers using / writing English sentences in their works

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problem with urdu is that its attached to a religion.....

and that religion is now in minority.....

few days back i read a news a hindu girl who was living near a urdu school...complete her education in urdu....

After that she completed her teacher training..and now she is working as a teacher in a urdu medium school....

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Who is responsible to attach urdu to a religion?

I remember as a teenager whenever I would use wrong urdu pronunciation while trying to speak urdu, my friends would discourage me telling me that U cant speak proper urdu coz U are not a muslim. And why the hell U try to speak urdu and become a laughing stock? They would mock how hindi is an inferior language as compared to urdu. What else can U expect when these kind of mentality is at work?

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lot of muslims also mis pronounce urdu....it depends on once own interest and opportunity to learn the language....

BTW in old days Dharmendra and Rajendra kumar were capable of writing in urdu script....

and it was important for singers to learn urdu in old days...and now i see pakistani singers mis pronouncing urdu words.....

khair Jindagi me aisi bate hoti rehti hai....ab jyada udaas na ho...:D

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^^ Honestly, being a punjabi decent, I couldn't differentiate between Hindi and Urdu, the persianized hindustani means Urdu and sanskritized Hindustani means Hindi :D

and the region of from where Urdu originated is mostly inhabited by Braj and Awadhi speaking people :D

Bass har bollywood movie mein aur delhi ke her sign board mein likhi dikhayi deti hai, padhni 95% delhi waalon ko nahi aati :D

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Chalo, aap kahte hain to khush ho jate hain, waise bhi ziadah udaas nahin the, bas ek kasak thi jo share kar li thi. :)

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95% kuch ziadah nahin hai? kuch kam kare len to meharbani hogi, nahin bhi karen to masla nahin.

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sahi baat hai ustaad, delhi ki literacy hi 83% hai :D
usme 95 % ko nahi aati hogi urdu, itna mein sure hoon.

DU mein haal bura hai, JNU mein bhi bura hi hoga :)

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I think that inferior language concept was also prevalent during Independence Movement on both sides, as everyone wanted to make his language to be accepted as national language. There is scene in movie 'Gadar-Ek Prem Katha' where a Muslim character is giving comments like 'jo maza ghazal aur thumri ka Urdu main hai, wo Hindi main kahan'

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I think its been connected with religion, though the language produced many good writers who were not Muslims.

How do you see changing Urdu day just because of Iqbal considering him as pan-Islamic?

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whenever this movie is mentioned, I start missing Amrish Puri, kya actor theyy zabardast :D

Sunny Paji toh chaa gaye theyy iss movie mein

All ragas as far as I know are in Braj, One bengali aunty living near my home during my school days used to bore us with that :D

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Language like urdu which is so commonly spoken in India must not be attached to any religion. Mu views only.

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lols. Bengali Saraswati :D

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Wrong concepts must fade away with times. That was time when there was no proper literacy, now time has changed.

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what about treating Iqbal as just a Pan-Islamic poet?

I've read that Iqbal is more popular in India than Pakistan. In Kashmir University, they did a lot of work and distributed stickers carrying Iqbal's poetry in homes.

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Does his political leanings have anything to do with his great poetry....

his poetry is so common in our day to day language that we even do not know that we are quoting from iqbal's poetry.....

lot of time we quote his poetry out of original context though....

correct me if i am wrong but i think "uff kaun na mar jaye aisi saadgi per ke LaRte hain aur hath me talwar bhi nahi" is from ashar of Iqbal...about sahaba at jang-e-badr...commonly used in bollywood movies....

"Saare jahanse achha is commonly used at national festivals....

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The langauge that Indians use, they don't know what it is. if it is Urdu or Hindi. I don't know what I speak, but mostly Hindustani :)

First she start singing Ragas followed by 'Ghar se nikalte hi kuch door chalte hi, raste mein hai uska ghar". Now tell me if this line is urdu or hindi :D

Bengalis love music like Southies love classical dance, but with only tabla, sitar and harmonium :)