Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India
Does his political leanings have anything to do with his great poetry....
his poetry is so common in our day to day language that we even do not know that we are quoting from iqbal's poetry.....
lot of time we quote his poetry out of original context though....
correct me if i am wrong but i think "uff kaun na mar jaye aisi saadgi per ke LaRte hain aur hath me talwar bhi nahi" is from ashar of Iqbal...about sahaba at jang-e-badr...commonly used in bollywood movies....
"Saare jahanse achha is commonly used at national festivals....
Philosophical quotes can be used in different situations differently. Out of context term is out of context here.
Saare jahan se accha is commonly used in national festivals indeed, and thats not out of context either.
Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India
what about treating Iqbal as just a Pan-Islamic poet?
I've read that Iqbal is more popular in India than Pakistan. In Kashmir University, they did a lot of work and distributed stickers carrying Iqbal's poetry in homes.
Even kobiguru, Rabindra Nath Tagore is equally popular in West Bengal and Bangladesh.
Kashmiris are jokers, they love urdu or sanskrit poetry more than Kashmiri :D
we punjabis are better than them in this regard :)
Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India
Philosophical quotes can be used in different situations differently. Out of context term is out of context here.
Saare jahan se accha is commonly used in national festivals indeed, and thats not out of context either.
where i said saare jahanse achha is used out of context......:D
Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India
what about treating Iqbal as just a Pan-Islamic poet?
I've read that Iqbal is more popular in India than Pakistan. In Kashmir University, they did a lot of work and distributed stickers carrying Iqbal's poetry in homes.
Whats wrong in treating him as a pan islamic poet? he was that, wasnt he?
And I dont think that even Indian muslims remember him now according to his stature.
Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India
where i said saare jahanse achha is used out of context......:D
Even I did not say that, I just said that it isnt our of context, sorry if U misunderstood me.
Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India
The langauge that Indians use, they don't know what it is. if it is Urdu or Hindi. I don't know what I speak, but mostly Hindustani :)
First she start singing Ragas followed by 'Ghar se nikalte hi kuch door chalte hi, raste mein hai uska ghar". Now tell me if this line is urdu or hindi :D
Bengalis love music like Southies love classical dance, but with only tabla, sitar and harmonium :)
'Ghar se nikalte hi kuch door chalte hi, raste mein hai uska ghar" is aasan Urdu without any Persian / Arabic viruses :p (j/k)
Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India
The langauge that Indians use, they don't know what it is. if it is Urdu or Hindi. I don't know what I speak, but mostly Hindustani :)
U need not know what U are speaking when U are speaking hindustani, and the fact is that U cant separate hindustani from urdu.
Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India
Even kobiguru, Rabindra Nath Tagore is equally popular in West Bengal and Bangladesh.
Kashmiris are jokers, they love urdu or sanskrit poetry more than Kashmiri :D
we punjabis are better than them in this regard :)
The situation in Pakistani Punjab is different, where Iqbal is more followed (or portrayed as being followed) than Punjabi poets
Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India
urdu zuban me bohat wusat hy ye apny andar or bohat se zubanun k alfaz samony ki ahliat rakhti hy, kuch nasar nigarun ka kehna hy k kuch alfaz aisy hain jin ka urdu mutabadil ni is wajah sy angreezi alfaz istimal krny party hain.
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Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India
'Ghar se nikalte hi kuch door chalte hi, raste mein hai uska ghar" is aasan Urdu without any Persian / Arabic viruses :p (j/k)
It is equally Hindi
U need not know what U are speaking when U are speaking hindustani, and the fact is that U cant separate hindustani from urdu.
Neither Hindustani can be seprated from Hindi, and all the words of Hindi and Urdu can be written in both Devnagri and Persian script :)
The situation in Pakistani Punjab is different, where Iqbal is more followed (or portrayed as being followed) than Punjabi poets
Then they will get confused with their identity in some time :D
Re: Iqbal and Urdu day in India
I think to certain extent thse are excuses for allowing impurity in the language. We got word ‘uktahat’ but we all use ‘bore hona’ due to such excuses.
