Re: Inzamam a cricketing ‘dictator’ - Wasim Akram
^ or like many others put it…
They (PCB) needed a 
to load with the burden and it became a “debacle” when it “kicked” (dollati) at the wrong time.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
You make a very valid and pertinent point here, a very intelligent observation. Yes Inzi was meddling too much in the affairs of the PCB but then it also does n't say much about our bungling administrators at PCB in particular Saleem Altaf (chamcha or doyee call him what you will), the most beghairat and shameless PCB official in living memory. He was an average medium pacer who got a few chances to play for Pakistan when Imran was injured between 1982 and 1985 but saala hilne ka naam hee nahin lay raha, lota giri main Sheikh Rasheed ka bhi maaman lagta hai
yes you are so right...................
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
koi nai baat batoa akram bhai.
As far as those feeling bad for poor inzi, they should have watched Geo Super exclusive interview this morning featuring Inzi and Journalist Majid Bhatti. Fakher asked inzi the reasons behind Irish defeat in Inzi view. For the very first time Inzi admitted on TV that yes we were pathetic in batting but at the same time it was ICC who gave us a green wicket and when that happens it doesn't really matter who is your opponent. In response Fakher said that inzi is it really that difficuly not to play deliveries going out of the off stump when Irish minnows where able to do that.
Again I would repeat, as long as he keeps on giving these bull **** statements, people will show no sympathy which he is asking from them.
Why only him fkhan2? What about explanations from Wasim for missing the '96 Quaterfinal? Loosing against Bangladesh and final of '99? Admit it, it is a witch hunt and that is what people want. Anyway possible to get his head on platter while PCB gets a free pass from people. Good Luck winning the next world cup and restoring morality in the team.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
^ Its pakistani culture dude....jiskee lathee us kee bhense...
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
Why only him fkhan2? What about explanations from Wasim for missing the '96 Quaterfinal? Loosing against Bangladesh and final of '99? Admit it, it is a witch hunt and that is what people want. Anyway possible to get his head on platter while PCB gets a free pass from people. Good Luck winning the next world cup and restoring morality in the team.
Just because Akram missed the the QF in 1996 gives Inzi the life time membership of Yes, I am stupid club?
MWAP, again you are mssing my point. I am not supporting PCB or akram here. I am just pissed off at Inzi because of the way he has dealt with the media in the last 3 weeks. I have seen his several interviews/press conferences in Pakistan during the last month 3 weeks and he failed to admit in any one of those interviews that it was the batting failure which led to the humiliation. I have no problem in seeing my team losing but definitely have issues when they make lame excuses.
If you see the latest interview with Fakher posted by teaser, you would notice Fakher saying to him that, so INzi you are admitting that it was the batting failure which resulted in our defeat against Irish team, as if Fakher was finally relieved to hear that.
I met Fakher at a party in Karachi and that was the point of discussion that why the hell he is not admitting and instead whinning about the pitch constantly, because Inzi was not realizing that this was making people even more mad.
Even in this latest interview, you would notice that right after admitting the batting failure, he again started whinning about the pitch.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing ‘dictator’ - Wasim Akram
Now you show me a statement where PCB said that they let the team down. They did a horrible preparation to World Cup. They sent an unfit player to South African tour.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing ‘dictator’ - Wasim Akram
Bhaijan I have told you zillion times that I am not supporting PCB here. I know that they all are a bunch of dopehead doing nothing. I don’t care what they have said about the team’s performance or not. All I am doing here is discussing Inzi’s careless attitude after the defeat. I don’t how much access you have to Pakistan TV media here in USA but I was in Pakistan and was watching 20 different channels showing Inzi’s interviews where he was repeating the same thing again and again. Let me paste something for you from cricinfo since It is not possible for me to quote anything what was said on those channels.
This was said by Inzi in his press conference. He was responding to the first question regarding the reasons behind the defeat.
He went on to question the quality of the Sabina Park pitch for the Irish game. “The wicket was very difficult for batting. It was a green-top pitch. I had never seen such a wicket in the World Cup. The match became dependent on the toss. Unfortunately we lost the toss and Ireland used it to their full benefit.”
**And we apologise to you for our captain Inzamam-ul-Haq’s disgraceful yet revealing post-match comment that kismet was not with Pakistan; kismet or fate, Inzamam, had nothing to do with it and to say it did degrades a mighty performance. **
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
Offcourse wicket had it say everyone admit to that. You can not neglect the fact that wicket was way green for any occassion. Just let me know during this world cup, we will see any wicket like that against Ireland.
Now, he said in the interview with Fakhar-e-alam that yes it is my responsiblity that we lost the world cup, but whose responsiblity is it to groom reliable openers? It is wrong to ask? Does it make him finding excuses or putting the blame on other people?
The same people, media and ex-players have given the free pass to PCB. Why? Do we want accountability or someone's head on platter to statisfy our anger?
You are buying into every crap that PCB puts out. Just watch the interview again, it has been disputed that players prayed during flight and it distracted their performance. Pakistani people, being passionate are buying every crap that PCB puts out, which eliminates them from any responsibility.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
Offcourse wicket had it say everyone admit to that. You can not neglect the fact that wicket was way green for any occassion. Just let me know during this world cup, we will see any wicket like that against Ireland.
Now, he said in the interview with Fakhar-e-alam that yes it is my responsiblity that we lost the world cup, but whose responsiblity is it to groom reliable openers? It is wrong to ask? Does it make him finding excuses or putting the blame on other people?
The same people, media and ex-players have given the free pass to PCB. Why? Do we want accountability or someone's head on platter to statisfy our anger?
You are buying into every crap that PCB puts out. Just watch the interview again, it has been disputed that players prayed during flight and it distracted their performance. Pakistani people, being passionate are buying every crap that PCB puts out, which eliminates them from any responsibility.
and once again you are doing the same thing, talking about PCB when we are just talkng about Inzi. Is it that difficult for you to defend Inzi and his attitude? If yes, than probably there is hint for you.
And BTW, You are most welcome to open 1 million threads about PCB and bash them. Believe me I will join you there but here we are discussing Inzi's attitude.If we cant do it than there is no point in wasting each others time :)
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
when u r down ,u need support from ur own people.It is easy to join in the ''band wagon'' .I mean leave Inzi alone .He had enough of it.He already admitted his responsibility on the defeats and retired .What else people want now .Regarding "dictator''.Wasim tried his level best to become a dictator and the thing was "abusing team mates".Inzi was far from that.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
fkhan2, you are missing the point. If you blame or ask Inzi for explanation for World Cup disater that is right, but only him is a wrong way to approach the situation. Here is the whole picture, you are drilling and dwelling on what Inzi said and what I am trying to show you is perspective.
-Akhtar and Asif taking drugs, Inzi fault or PCB's problem?
-No reliable openers for four years, Inzi fault or PCB's responsibility?
-Annoucing at the last moment that Akhtar and Asif can not play in World Cup, Inzi's fault of PCB's mismangement?
-Appointing Mushtaq Ahmed as assistant bowling coach, Inzi job or PCB's responsibility?
If you can answer those question, you can understand how I look at the situation.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
fkhan2, you are missing the point. If you blame or ask Inzi for explanation for World Cup disater that is right, but only him is a wrong way to approach the situation. Here is the whole picture, you are drilling and dwelling on what Inzi said and what I am trying to show you is perspective.
-Akhtar and Asif taking drugs, Inzi fault or PCB's problem? -No reliable openers for four years, Inzi fault or PCB's responsibility? -Annoucing at the last moment that Akhtar and Asif can not play in World Cup, Inzi's fault of PCB's mismangement? -Appointing Mushtaq Ahmed as assistant bowling coach, Inzi job or PCB's responsibility?
If you can answer those question, you can understand how I look at the situation.
Agreed Inzi can't be blamed for the first three but Mushtaq's appointment had everything to do with Inzi's stubbornness and favouritism, but one could equally blame PCB's incompetence and mismanagement for that.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
fkhan2, you are missing the point. If you blame or ask Inzi for explanation for World Cup disater that is right, but only him is a wrong way to approach the situation. Here is the whole picture, you are drilling and dwelling on what Inzi said and what I am trying to show you is perspective.
-Akhtar and Asif taking drugs, Inzi fault or PCB's problem? -No reliable openers for four years, Inzi fault or PCB's responsibility? -Annoucing at the last moment that Akhtar and Asif can not play in World Cup, Inzi's fault of PCB's mismangement? -Appointing Mushtaq Ahmed as assistant bowling coach, Inzi job or PCB's responsibility?
If you can answer those question, you can understand how I look at the situation.
Nahin jeee Inzi ideally has got nothing to do with these issues, but when he tries to become over smart and pokes his nose into these issues and give stupid statements, thats where he gets into trouble.
On the other hand, according to several reports from different sources, Inzi could have played a useful role in recommending Mushtaq as our bowling coach or not getting Waqar removed, or not getting Imran Nazir out of the wilderness.
But again I don't want to discuss these issues. The main issue I had with Inzi after the WC was the way he talked to media and gave stupid reasons for the defeat.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
Stupid reasons for World Cup defeats. He is not the ideal guy to ask for reasons. He has his own way to interpret the situation, but we as a people who watch and analyze everything Pakistan Cricket can not buy the fact that it is only Inzi that lost us the World Cup. The only thing you can blame him for is for his batting against West Indies and Ireland, which comes down to individual performances.
Injuries to our key players and the way PCB handled the three scandals in past 8 months is pathetic. Topic is Inzamam was a cricketing dictator, well if people around him are all "yes sir" than it makes anyone a dictator.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
I just want to add one small thing here. Most of the Pakistani Cricket players were poor and illiterate when they join Cricket. I do not think we had or will have many players with Imran Khan's background, education and professional wise. Most of the players stay and play county cricket thus learn English and how to speak with media. If you look at past Cricketers, most of them had problems. It is our culture where most of the poor people find Cricket as their source of income.
Just look at Yousuf and Younis background. How they made to Cricket and stayed? Even though they are talented, they do not have the skill to talk to media.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
Stupid reasons for World Cup defeats. He is not the ideal guy to ask for reasons. He has his own way to interpret the situation
Exactly my sentiments, thank you very much for acknowledging it. Hopefully we don't have to go through the trauma of him dealing with media any more except for Man of the Match interviews. From now on he should just concentrate on letting his bat do the talking.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
All that time you wanted me to say that Inzamam lacks media skills? Just ask and I would be the first one to admit it. I do not think media should ask him for perspective on victory or loss, on how to groom players and step up domestic cricket. He is one of the most naturally gifted batsmen in Cricket history, which is the reason of his career. I do not think he can teach or train any batsman and this is known from the day he came to crease.
I thought media and people already knew that...
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
All that time you wanted me to say that Inzamam lacks media skills? Just ask and I would be the first one to admit it. I do not think media should ask him for perspective on victory or loss, on how to groom players and step up domestic cricket. He is one of the most naturally gifted batsmen in Cricket history, which is the reason of his career. I do not think he can teach or train any batsman and this is known from the day he came to crease.
I thought media and people already knew that...
You wont believe but there are people even on this forum who will just flare up after listening to Inzi's bashing without even realizing that critics are not commenting on his batting skills but on his skills other than batting.
For some reason it is hard to understand that after spending 16 years in cricket, the guy is still an idiot, has so little cricket knowledge considering that he is the captain of an international team for more than 3 years and has absolutely no idea how to answer a question which by the way has got not much to do with the level of education.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
It has alot to do with level of education; examples Miandad, Aamir Sohail, Sarfarz, Moin Khan and now Younis Khan. Having media skills is not a talent or learning behavior, you need education and professional environment to help deal with media. That is why we see Pakistani players making stupid comments. Media should act intelligently and do not create hysteria when they know someone is illitrate or do not have the skill of having a perspective.
Re: Inzamam a cricketing 'dictator' - Wasim Akram
Who wasn't a dictator ? The most successful captain ever in the history of Pak cricket was the "biggest '' dictator of all time.The person who called Inzi a dictator was happy playing under him and even tried to copy the same style(unsuccessfully).