Interfaith Dialogue (Jesus PBUH and Muhammad PBUH) - Islam and Christianity

[The_Old_Man]

Re: Interfaith Dialogue (Jesus PBUH and Muhammad PBUH) - Islam and Christianity

@usmanshahid

‘Any person who has little bit sense can make out, ‘I and my father are one’ doesn’t mean one - as one person. It means one is purpose

Not correct and taken out of context. In verse 33 we can exactly see that the people who was there when Jesus spoke, CLEARLY understood to what Jesus meant. They wanted to stone Jesus because of blasphemy because Jesus with these words (which you wish to not understand and rather give a different meaning) “claimed to be God”. Jesus answered them that if human judges were called gods (Ps.82v6), then the Son of God who “is one with God” can certainly claim it with more surety.

Jesus previously explained that the power invested in him is as strong as the power the Father God has. No-one can snatch his followers from him because his power is as strong as the Father’s.

suppose If I say that my father is a doctor - and i am also a doctor. If I say, ‘I and my father are one’ - What does it mean?

If you say “I and my father is one”, I will have to ask you “One of what?” because it does not make sense that you can be in your father and that you and your father can be the same person. Has absolutely nothing to do with doing the same thing in life. You and your father is two disticnt separate persons. In Jesus case, he actually IS part of God Almighty with the Father and the Holy Spirit.

It is always good if one DOES really take scripture in context…

John No.17, Verse No.21 it says that, Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) said that… ‘Ye all of them are one - My father in me, and I in thee, we all are one’.

Now we jump 7 chapters further and let’s see what the context is so that you may understand:

Jesus started off earlier by praying the following in verse 11: …I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name - the name you gave to me - so that they may be one as we are one.

Jesus have the Father’s name! Can ANY human claim that?

Jesus want his disciples to be of one mind and purpose as he and his Father God is one in mind and purpose.

Let’s look at your quotation of John.17v21:

Firstly you quoted it wrong (maybe not your fault but those you think know the Bible so well ). Jesus did not talk in the present tense but future, let me quote the scripture which you intentionaly/unintentionaly quoted wrong:

“My prayer is not for them alone. I also pray for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.”

Here it is CLEARLY mentioned that his future believers should be united in faith and meaning and purpose as Jesus and his Father God are. How can Christians be “in God”? In chapter 16 (not 7 chapters away ) Jesus explained that the Holy Spirit will be sent to his followers. The Holy Spirit will live inside of his followers and guide them further. Jesus’ followers should then be in unity (if they form their lives as per the Holy Spirit’s guidance) similarr as how Jesus and his Father God is in unity in God Almighty.