Interfaith Dialogue (Jesus PBUH and Muhammad PBUH) - Islam and Christianity

[USResident]

Re: Interfaith Dialogue (Jesus PBUH and Muhammad PBUH) - Islam and Christianity

@The Old Man

USResident, very well summarised. Makes it almost impossible to discuss further because you pointed out the different points of believe so good.

I deduced all this from this dicussion. Which was one of the reasons I opened these threads.

@The Old Man

You will have to elaborate a little more, USResident. Don't know what response you require.

I am refering the original sin and atonement. We believe Jesus PBUH came as a prophet to guide the people to the right path and help them get their act together. Thats what makes sense as it is what all other prophets have done. Whereas Christianity (you may even point this out from the scriptures) do not agree with this. They say Jesus PBUH came to get sacrificed and purge humanity from the original sin. His sacrifice was an atonement for everyones sins. This is also the point of corruption as far as muslims are concerned. This is what we say the scriptures have been changed to reflect this doctrine whereas it never was this way and to clarify and re-institute the correct path of monotheism is why Muhammad SAW came and the Quran was revealed.

@The Old Man

With respect to the prophet Muhammad, his teaching as per the Qur'an (and I am not even considering the ahadiths) is so far removed from what Christians are taught, as per Jesus teaching, that Christians can only accept the prophet Muhammad NOT to be a prophet of God and that the Qur'an is just a religious book written by someone creating his own religion as per new enlightenment.

Teachings about the Aqidah are far removed, I agree with that or Bible teachings are far removed from that of all prophets that came before Jesus PBUH is also a true statement. Moses PBUH and Muhammad SAW had more similarities than Jesus PBUH and Moses PBUH had, this is according to the Christian scriptures not hearsay.

@The Old Man

Islam, on the other hand, also seeing the differences, HAVE to claim that all New Testament teaching is suspect and corrupt as 90% differs with the Qur'an. (Incidentally, the Qur'an never mentions that the New Testament is wrong/corrupt. Whenever corruptness in scriptures are mentioned, it refers to the Old Testament of Judaism).

It doesn't matter how corrupt the NT may be or what has been changed in the OT. All of it is abrogated with the advent of Quran. The Jews were bound by the Torah in their time not Psalms. New revealed scriptures come to correct what may have been corrupted of scriptures before them and bring newly established laws for the people. So I would even, the Christian should not have been bound by the OT had Jesus come with something new.

@The Old Man

It leaves the two religions at loggerheads with almost NO agreements. While Christianity can relate to the Jewish faith and even use their scriptures as is, the same can't be said of the prophet Muhammad's teachings. That is why I believe that the prophet Muhammad, as per Surah 2:151, came with a complete NEW teaching and does not build on the other two Abrahamaic religions, even though the God all three worship is the same.

Differences in the laws do not matter because once a new scripture was revealed, the older one becomes defunct. However the prevailing Aqidah must be corrected if it has gone bad.

@The Old Man

It was very clear to me, as I read the Qur'an, that the prophet Muhammad NEVER had the New Testament either read or explained to him while he lived. He makes almost NO mention of any teaching or incidents from the New Testament scriptures other than Zachariah and the virgin birth of Jesus.

Precisely because his mission was not to follow a faith that had been corrupted but to re-establish what Allah SWT wanted.