Interesting Social Experiment Conducted After Ottawa, Canada Shooting

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At least a couple of major flaws in this post.

What you ignored are that:

A- “STATS” you referred to still are based on racism. Hence if Police is reacting to stats, then police is reacting to racism spread like the mosaic pattern in to the society.

This means that using Stats in this matter is wrong.

Please go to basics and define where stats came from.

B- You said crimes are more committed by blacks. OK. What is the source of it? If Non-Black or White is not caught or released without being charged, then will that affect the statement you made?

C- No idea what color skin are you, but the white girl you mentioned is a RACIST. Please do not try to be politically correct.

Had you not been seen with a white person giving ride, she would have continued to dislike you.

She disliked you for something she did not share with you like “your looks”.

Again no idea what your look is like, according to you she stopped disliking you when she saw you with someone who is white.

This means your look is not white.

This means she is a racist.

Try not to sugarcoat it by saying people need to give others opportunity to see deeper than skin.

No. You did not by any means show her the opportunity to see deeper than skin, Nor she saw anything deeper than skin.

She remained a racist.

All you did was to pacify her racism inadvertently.

C: What you are asking people to do is to appease racism and hatred based on look in the end.

**Bark and walk like a dog too, so other dog will feel ‘comfortable’. That is what you said.
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A lot of desis/foreigners do that and they call this “ASSIMILATION”. :slight_smile:

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Peace diwana

I saw the above and I don’t want to respond to it … but I shall … I did indeed say the stats approach is wrong … It is wrong because it forces the view of people ‘to be profiled’ by race … So I agree with you … I said it is not racist in the sense that it is done by them in the hope of preventing crime by predicting patterns … It is just a flawed mechanism in that respect and creates racism.

I’m a medium brown colour …

Yes that white girl is probably still racist, my point is not that I set out to do something to change her mind … I didn’t, I just continued to be nice to her … My statement of her seeing me with a white dude was probably only one big factor. I have been through a lot in my time. I could tell you but I will not bother … Because this is just an Internet forum … Any way, my point is her familiarity with me gave her a way to see me and judge me as an individual … I am not afraid of racist behaviour … I am not assimilating, I do not dress like them, act like them, I’m not a coconut … Brown on the outside and white on the inside … I have a beard and I go to the masjid. The person I pick up works around my prayer schedule … I don’t take petrol money off him, but he feels obliged to do things and treats me to a meal or a gift cards for supermarket. Even he is racist … If you speak to him you will see it, but he respects me. Racism is baggage … It is their ignorance … It used to scare me … But not now, Alhumdulillah.

I am asking people not to succumb to racism by behaving back in a racist way. I used to care about monetary disparity … But not anymore … This is very different to those desis who think of whites as superior and feel they are like slaves to them … I’m not like that … I tell them how it is … I try to take good from all societies and leave the bad … And I regularly tell them that racism has never been removed except in Islam.

I think different people have different levels of it … My white friends who are not racist at all are the Muslim ones … Converts. That is not to say all converts are not racist. By those who I choose as my close friends are not racist at all … Because our whole outlook in life is based on another world-view.

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Peace right back at you Psyah.

Your post to me yesterday was based on the premise racism breeds racism which breeds racism. So a black who has been subjected to racism views all whites with suspicion. Who then view all blacks with suspicion. And the cycle continues. That is an oversimplification. Which some others have done before you. One of them having made a fine point earlier.

You seem to ignore institutionalized racism.

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Got it. Thanks.

Glad that you acknowledge the racism was still there even though the girl felt somewhat comfortable with you. She most likely did since you were seen close to and doing something good to a white person.

The fact is that there is a lot MORE a desi/non-white has to do to get his/her work or simply the social existence acknowledged and be respected outside in a NON-desi and majority white-land.

And that is called racism, based on skin color only.

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@Southie
if you did not see a white light… and angels did not sing around you.. after reading post #58](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=58)
Its never going to happen for you my friend :nahi:

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I will see whatever light you want me to see, of any color.

Just pass me the jount.

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Well, beyond doubt, with good real world exmple, psyah showed the point.
Yet you are arguing. Wonderful.

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It’s as if you guys aren’t even human.
Do you live on this planet?

I don’t even know why @Southie even bothers.

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That’s is a compliment.
True our guidance don’t come from this planet.
In this simple case, we have all experience benefit of the practice in post #58](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=58) .
Yet you and southie are not even willing to give it a second thought even as intellectual exercise.

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because it’s stupid. lol
I’m not even going to bother reading psyah’s comments after he implied that African American’s deserved being in jails because they supposedly commit enough crimes to fit the “profile”

You can be blissfully ignorant and racist. Please next you’ll tell me if I just ignore all the racism and sexism will go away. My income will suddenly increase, and my children will be hired solely on their skills and not because they have a white name.

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so you are going to pass ,all you said in this thread, to your children ?

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My children won’t be as ignorant or prejudicial like the people here :stuck_out_tongue:

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Well, there are people in the thread telling you their personal experience, my self psyah and more.
We are not presenting theory only, we are presenting results as well.

Yet you are so arrogant not to pay attention.

You know some revolutionary idea could come from non Darwinian source too.
Got to keep your heart open. :slight_smile:

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God, you are so offensive. It’s unbelievable. Just because you don’t face racism and don’t believe in it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen. Why are you erasing other peoples experiences? Why are you ignoring hundreds and thousands of evidence that racism indeed exists.

Why are you ignoring the fact that life just isn’t as peachy for other people. That institutionalised racism does exist not just because I said so, but because there are dozens of journal articles and reports and all that evidence.

You’re just sticking your head into the sand. It’s offensive.

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ok don’t do that.
I am not engreez. Don’t flip the switch and made me into the group you suspect of racism.

I have worked on store for long time. I have dealt with people.
I have seen people their behaviour, changing. Only thing is I didn’t consider such behaviour as my problem.
Perhaps person acting in that way had issue, which were resolved. Perhaps with my interaction.

Now if believed in what you saying, I would not be open to them on human level.
That is like closing all the door with a person. You can not do that!!

Also I don’t think its only one race who do it. Once I had south indian roomate.
To this date he is the ones who said worst stuff about pak/islam on my face.

How ever by the time he moved back you amreeka, he was defending islam to his friends :snooty:
Once I told him a pakistani designed some most famous building in new york, that dude spend half a day, and finally told me it was “east” pakistani. He was telling me west pakistani could not be smart :smiley:

People are like analogue circuit with feed back, for other people.
You got to control what feed back you give.

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Of course, sweetie.

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:smiley:

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Your room mate was prejudiced not racist lol. You don’t seem to understand what institutionalised racism means. Please read up on it.

Your personal experience or @hareem01’s husbands doesn’t really matter. Do you think it’s such a coincidence that the countries who have darker complexions are often labelled as “high risk”? Do you think it’s justifiable that it takes forever to process visas for Pakistani passport holders compared to other countries?

How about you guys read this?
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/news/2012/03/13/11351/the-top-10-most-startling-facts-about-people-of-color-and-criminal-justice-in-the-united-states/

I don’t believe in this fantasy world you live in. You want to talk about just your own personal experiences. I can give you a billion other peoples personal experiences of how racism and sexism does exist, but I don’t.

I don’t know why I should keep giving you links when you can look it up yourself.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/10/09/high-tech-pay-gap-hispanics-asians-african-americans/16606121/
http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/documents/research/14_pay_gaps_across_equalities_review.pdf
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0882775.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/catherine-hill/how-does-race-affect-the-gender-wage-gap_b_5087132.html

More evidence that hey… racism does exist
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/09/-sp-north-carolina-teenager-suspicious-death-lennon-lacy
http://blog.angryasianman.com/2014/10/the-most-racist-reason-to-send-back.html

“I am a black woman in a college town that is 93% white and has the other distinction of being the “rape capital” of America. At my job, I am paid minimum wage to deal with over 150 needy white locals and tourists a day. I could submit to this blog with every shift, but this particular interaction got to me. I was doing the usual customer interaction with an older white lady and ready to send her on her way when she out of the blue asks me “where were you raised?” I replied, “excuse me?” because I’m used to getting the ‘you don’t belong here’ statements as the more benign, “where are you from” questions. She again asked, “where were you born and raised?”For whatever reason, I told her, then asked why she asked me that and she said “well, I have an African-American granddaughter so when I meet African-American people around here, I like to know where they grew up.” I will probably get fired when she sheds her white tears complaining to my boss, because I then went off on her.
I said, “are you telling me that when you see a black face you ask them where they’re they’re from? You need to stop doing that. It’s rude and you can’t do that to people. I get that all the time here, ‘what are you doing here, where are you from’ —always reminding me that I don’t belong here because I’m not white.” She pulled from the White Excuses List and said that she didn’t intend to cause any offense and that’s not what she meant. Even though what I really wanted to say was that I feel sorry for your black granddaughter who is going to have a grandmother always reminding her that she doesn’t really belong to the family, all I could do was to hand her her paperwork and put back on the hospitality smile and tell her that if she needs anything to let me know”

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Well, beyond doubt, with good real word exmple, I showed the (fine) point in my response to “psyah”. Yet you are arguing. Wonderful.