Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
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Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I’m Malala
aap ke class main Malala naam ki koi laRki nahin? 
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
oye muqawee:
pay attention. There is no book need to be written. There is Muslim scholarship of 1400+
I can assure you no other religion on earth scrutinize its text the way Muslims do.
Frist person who recoded life of prophet(saw) was ibn ishaq, he put down all. With reference to who said it. Now there were people who lied and had opinion, those are recorded too.
Then through the science of hadees(a big tough... though discipline) things were scrutinised and made clear.
One Important part of science of hadees is , you DONT discard any thing. You mark them!!!!
You mark un verified events as weak.
But you leave them there, in case some other proof comes and weak get the status of strong.
So there are 3-5 things, which people like salman rushdi pick, There are recorded. But as far as I know, this story in not true. Non the less its recorded and KEPT BY MUSLIMS!!!!!
Our prophet(saw) was not figure of faith only, he had a real life with real events.
That woman Keren Armstrong says, "only founder of the religion who's life is recorded"
I take all the information, weak or strong, any day over a figure-of-faith (as jesus(pbuh) in bible)
so in short there is no book needed. There is muslim scholarship there who do its work honestly and with great care.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Are there any problems she pointed out in books that never existed in Pakistan? May be she has exaggerated certain matters, but I don't think that she put false balmes on Pakistani people and Pakistani society.
Another question that I wanted to ask from a person, who will not criticise her just for the sake of it. If this book has not been published, wouldn't there be same hatred against her? Hasn't this book provided an opportunity / reason to criticize the girl? We have seen certain groups on social media active against her, way before the book was published.
The problem with not only Pakistanis but the whole muslim world is that they would hate and label anyone who intellectually challenges them. Malala asks the typical questions that any non-muslim Westerner would ask but because she's a Pakistani and muslim she's seen as a traitor.
And to be honest, it's just not Malala, I see a lot of public figures receiving hatred on social media. I don't think she cares though. It adds to their publicity. But yeah, it's sad hating on a teenager for her views.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
No book needed, but before you get yourself informed about the existing material available with us. You tell me how many Mullas referred to material and discussed that Rushdie is wrong while writing so and so. How many Mullas in Jumma Khutba give proper dars to masses? They do tell about 'itne nafl paRho ge to itna sawab mile ga'. Majority doesn't talk about revolutionary aspect of Prophet's life.
So, a book or dars refuting such allegations is always needed.
You tell me who was the instigator behind burning of Banks and Cinemas in Karachi on yum e Ishq e Rasool? These Mullas who provoked people on streets. If these Mullas knew the power of book they have (Quran), couldn't they channelise the protest in a better way. Our generations have been destroyed and we are still dreaming that there is no importance of book or imparting knowledge form already existing books.
oye muqawee: pay attention. There is no book need to be written. There is Muslim scholarship 1400+ I can assure you no other religion on earth scrutinize its text they Muslims do.
Frist person who recoded life of prophet(saw) was ibn ishaq, he put down all. With reference. Now there were people who lied and had opinion, those are recorded too.
Then through the science of hadees(a big tough... though discipline) things were scrutinised and made clear. One Important part of science of hadees is , you discard any thing. You mark them!!!! You mark un verified events as weak. But you leave them there, in case some other proof comes and weak get the status of strong.
So there are 3-5 things people like salman rushdi pick, There are recorded. But as far as I know, this story in not true. Non the less its recorded and KEPT BY MUSLIMS!!!!!
Our prophet(saw) was not figure of faith only, he had a real life with real events. That woman Keren Armstrong says, "only founder of the religion who's life is recorded"
I take all the information, weak or strong, any day over a figure-of-faith (as jesus(pbuh) in bible)
so in short there is no book needed. There is muslim scholarship there who do its work honestly and with great care.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
The problem with not only Pakistanis but the whole muslim world is that they would hate and label anyone who intellectually challenges them. Malala asks the typical questions that any non-muslim Westerner would ask but because she's a Pakistani and muslim she's seen as a traitor.
And to be honest, it's just not Malala, I see a lot of public figures receiving hatred on social media. I don't think she cares though. It adds to their publicity. But yeah, it's sad hating on a teenager for her views.
ufff... I think u got me wrong. It is great if someone wants to challenge them intellectually, but my Problem is "freedom of speech" vala part, when she mentioned Satanic verses. Simple
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
The problem with not only Pakistanis but the whole muslim world is that they would hate and label anyone who intellectually challenges them. Malala asks the typical questions that any non-muslim Westerner would ask but because she's a Pakistani and muslim she's seen as a traitor.
And to be honest, it's just not Malala, I see a lot of public figures receiving hatred on social media. I don't think she cares though. It adds to their publicity. But yeah, it's sad hating on a teenager for her views.
Exactly. People hate historians like Mubarak Ali, Pervez Hood Bhai, because they provide you an alternate version to history. Its the belief 'I'm right and all others are wrong' which is the root problem in any society.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I’m Malala
I wasn’t talking about you. 
if I were Malala I wouldn’t even touch the Salman Rushdie issue but then we won’t be having this discussion right now, will we? 
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
No book needed, but before you get yourself informed about the existing material available with us. You tell me how many Mullas referred to material and discussed that Rushdie is wrong while writing so and so. How many Mullas in Jumma Khutba give proper dars to masses? They do tell about 'itne nafl paRho ge to itna sawab mile ga'. Majority doesn't talk about revolutionary aspect of Prophet's life.
So, a book or dars refuting such allegations is always needed.
You tell me who was the instigator behind burning of Banks and Cinemas in Karachi on yum e Ishq e Rasool? These Mullas who provoked people on streets. If these Mullas knew the power of book they have (Quran), couldn't they channelise the protest in a better way. Our generations have been destroyed and we are still dreaming that there is no importance of book or imparting knowledge form already existing books.
I understand.
Try to understand me, this Rushdi, mullah and all dance around it has nothing to do with life of rasool ullah(saw).
Please keep those two clear from each other.
Pay attention. Inform your self.
All you described is mismanagement or mall intention from/by some people.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I’m Malala
^Your are right… I do not want to discuss it anymore. Agy he bohat Pakk chuka hun. Bs Bs . I am out. You guys carry On..
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
yaaro, Malala has been 'USED' as a 'TOOL' by the WAST all along and she and her handlers went along with it. she is a child, let her enjoy her 15 minutes of fame and shame.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
That means, extremism is raging anaconda which is swallowing every thing on its path. Sunni muslims being majorities are most ones killed.
Now if some one try find pattern, deeper then this, in data available, he/she is working on some agenda. It can not be made crime against minorities, its crime against the whole country. According to number of casualties.
Monk, I was referring to ur claim before 1970. That majority killed were not Ahmedis. I was trying to state that is not surprising since they r minority. It is more meaningful to stay as a percent of their population who got adversely impacted the most.
we seem to have a translation barrier. Would it help if repost in Tamil?
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Why is killing minorities for the sake of killing minorities not a crime against minorities? When was the last time Sunnis were killed for being Sunnis in Pakistan? Being killed as a random bystander makes you a casualty of terrorism not the target.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Why is killing minorities for the sake of killing minorities not a crime against minorities? When was the last time Sunnis were killed for being Sunnis in Pakistan? Being killed as a random bystander makes you a casualty of terrorism not the target.
on 15th november 2013 more than 20 sunnies killed in Rawalpindi for being sunnies
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
on 15th november 2013 more than 20 sunnies killed in Rawalpindi for being sunnies
Yeah, throwing stones and shooting at a mourning procession was such a cute and friendly way to welcome Muslim brothers.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Yeah, throwing stones and shooting at a mourning procession was such a cute and friendly way to welcome Muslim brothers.
u asked about sunni Killing, i answered ur question. Simple
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
u asked about sunni Killing, i answered ur question. Simple
Bad example. Try again.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Bad example. Try again.
bad example proved u wrong.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
I understand. Try to understand me, this Rushdi, mullah and all dance around it has nothing to do with life of rasool ullah(saw).
Please keep those two clear from each other.
Pay attention. Inform your self. All you described is mismanagement or mall intention from/by some people.
Rusdie's book is about life of Rasool ullah. Violence initiated by Mullah was in the name of Ishq e Rasool. So, how come its irrelevant, when someone come up with different view to tackle the matter
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Mohammed (saww) was often insulted during his life time, but never did he allow the insulters to be killed. One famous example is someone who was even coming to kill him, then turned Muslim, if I remember well, that is. Instead of killing all who insulted him, Mohammed (saww) used arguments and logic to teach people his views and bring the message of Allah.
If even he himself didn't allow killing, then I don't see why we, his followers, should.