Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
bad example proved u wrong.
Yes, Sunnis are dead because they were peaceful and randomly attacked for their religious beliefs for no reason, none whatsoever, Bas shugal shugal main violence started.. I am convinced by your logic. Lol!
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Mohammed (saww) was often insulted during his life time, but never did he allow the insulters to be killed. One famous example is someone who was even coming to kill him, then turned Muslim, if I remember well, that is. Instead of killing all who insulted him, Mohammed (saww) used arguments and logic to teach people his views and bring the message of Allah.
If even he himself didn't allow killing, then I don't see why we, his followers, should.
Seriously, I have yet to see anything more blasphemous then killing in the name of the Prophet (saw). It's such a clear message from Muslims that even though he taught them how to react in this situation they were going to reject his teachings because their gairat was more important.
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If these promoters of violence after publishing of rubbish material like Satanic Verses, cartoons, read out translation of passages from Quran which deals with the comments of Munifiqeen and Kuffar e Makka and then tell their audience what was the reaction of the Prophet and his companion at that time, they can’t ignite the fire which consume life of innocent people.
Take this ayah from Surah Muanfiqoon as an example:
Compared Translations of the meaning of the Quran - 63:8
Thw eord ‘azal’ was used for the prophets and his companions from Makka.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Mohammed (saww) was often insulted during his life time, but never did he allow the insulters to be killed. One famous example is someone who was even coming to kill him, then turned Muslim, if I remember well, that is. Instead of killing all who insulted him, Mohammed (saww) used arguments and logic to teach people his views and bring the message of Allah.
If even he himself didn't allow killing, then I don't see why we, his followers, should.
There are some issues ,in which, Common men like us can not act like Prophets. We have to see , how the close friends of Prophet (PBUH) reacted when they came across such cases. Yes, Prophet forgave many people, but he also fought wars and expelled jew tribes from Madina. We can not act like prophet in such specific cases, but we can act like the true followers , n Hazrat Umer (R.A) was true follower. Hazrat Umer (R.A) punished people due to non compliance of Judgment gven by Prophet (PBUH). And a verse of Quran was revealed exonerating Hazrat Umer (R.A). Now, imagen how Hazrat Umer (R.A) would have Responded to ths issue. When people throw garbage ön us, we should responed with argument , but when someone try to throw garbage on our Prophet, then it is a different story cz Prophet has more right on our lives than anything else, acording to Hadees . Its Just matter of conscience....
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
so there is the famous incident of Hazrat Abu Bakr, when he was not replying to rubbish of a non-believer and Prophet was smiling. When he replied smile disappeared from Prophet's face. When harat Abu Bakr (RA) asked about smile and then disappearance and changed expression on Prophet's face, what did Prophet replied? An angel was replying for you and when you replied angel disappeared.
The particular incident you mentioned where Hazrat Umar reacted so related to a person who claimed to be a Muslim, but was not satisfied with the decision of the prophet and went to Hazrat Umar (RA) saying prophet didn't do justice to him. Totally different issue from likes of Abu Jahl / Rushdie, who never claimed to be Muslims.
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
so there is the famous incident of Hazrat Abu Bakr, when he was not replying to rubbish of a non-believer and Prophet was smiling. When he replied smile disappeared from Prophet's face. When harat Abu Bakr (RA) asked about smile and then disappearance and changed expression on Prophet's face, what did Prophet replied? An angel was replying for you and when you replied angel disappeared.
The particular incident you mentioned where Hazrat Umar reacted so related to a person who claimed to be a Muslim, but was not satisfied with the decision of the prophet and went to Hazrat Umar (RA) saying prophet didn't do justice to him. Totally different issue from likes of Abu Jahl / Rushdie, who never claimed to be Muslims.
as far as Hazrat Abu bakar R.A) vala incident is concerned, that guy (whoever he was) was nt abusing, so there is no comparison betwee rushdi n him. And as far as Hazrat Umer R.A vala incident is concerned, its nt about muslim or non muslim. Its about respect. We all know, How Hazrat Umer n Abu bakr R.A would have responded to ths issue.. But u are nt ready to accept it with open heart. Anyhow, we both, will never agree
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Volume 9, Book 84, Number 61 :
Narrated by 'Aisha
A group of Jews asked permission to visit the Prophet (and when they were admitted) they said, "As-Samu 'Alaika (Death be upon you)." I said (to them), "But death and the curse of Allah be upon you!" The Prophet said, "O 'Aisha! Allah is kind and lenient and likes that one should be kind and lenient in all matters." I said, "Haven't you heard what they said?" He said, "I said (to them), 'Wa 'Alaikum (and upon you).
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
as far as Hazrat Abu bakar R.A) vala incident is concerned, that guy (whoever he was) was nt abusing, so there is no comparison betwee rushdi n him. And as far as Hazrat Umer R.A vala incident is concerned, its nt about muslim or non muslim. Its about respect. We all know, How Hazrat Umer n Abu bakr R.A would have responded to ths issue.. But u are nt ready to accept it with open heart. Anyhow, we both, will never agree
You should read some good tafsir e Quran to know the background
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Rusdie's book is about life of Rasool ullah. Violence initiated by Mullah was in the name of Ishq e Rasool. So, how come its irrelevant, when someone come up with different view to tackle the matter
dude. its not "different" view. Its same beat up dishonest narrative repeated by rushdi.
Only thing made it different was violent reaction of muslims.
As far as Rushdi, he wont mention things like.
1-mulims them self kept the record as oppose to erasing it.
2-muslims did not find it credible. etc...
Now please pay attention. When 1400s of scholarship don't find some thing credible.
Yet sheateen, like Rhusdi keep throwing it in our faces.
WHO IS IT ABOUT???
its either about Rushidi or us, or the facilitators.
Its not about Rasool ullah.....
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dude. its not "different" view. Its same beat up dishonest narrative repeated by rushdi. Only thing made it different was violent reaction of muslims.
As far as Rushdi, he wont mention things like. 1-mulims them self kept the record as oppose to erasing it. 2-muslims did not find it credible. etc...
Now please pay attention. When 1400s of scholarship don't find some thing credible. Yet sheateen, like Rhusdi keep throwing it in our faces. WHO IS IT ABOUT??? its either about Rushidi or us, or the facilitators. Its not about Rasool ullah.....
All I want to say, Muslim scholars (infamously known as Mullas) didn't educate people against the filth thrown by likes of Rushdie. They just believe in destruction, as is the resort for those who loose arguments.
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All I want to say, Muslim scholars (infamously known as Mullas) didn't educate people against the filth thrown by likes of Rushdie. They just believe in destruction, as is the resort for those who loose arguments.
There is no argument, there are lies there is drama there is dance around it.
Lie=salman
Drama=violance
dance= what goes on media/ social media.
People who dedicate all there life to for hadees, are any thing but your every day mullah.
I will send you a youtube, please watch it, it will explain how record is kept.
Also see if its any thing like *mullah *
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But majority people follow street Mulla than a real scholar.
I agree what Salman said was a lie, but did Ayatullah Khomeni or others who agitated tried to convey to masses why it was a lie and whats the truth?
There is no argument, there are lies there is drama there is dance around it. Lie=salman Drama=violance dance= what goes on media/ social media.
People who dedicate all there life to for hadees, are any thing but your every day mullah. I will send you a youtube, please watch it, it will explain how record is kept. Also see if its any thing like *mullah *
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But majority people follow street Mulla than a real scholar.
I agree what Salman said was a lie, but did Ayatullah Khomeni or others who agitated tried to convey to masses why it was a lie and whats the truth?
Thank you!
No idea who made it an issue.
Aur bhai video dekh leena, I had my jaw drop to the floor, when I found out what goes into recording the information.
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Thank you! No idea who made it an issue.
Aur bhai video dekh leena, I had my jaw drop to the floor, when I found out what goes into recording the information.
can you post the link here plz...I'm interested too.
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can you post the link here plz...I'm interested too.
I will copy you on PM
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Practical Introduction to the Science of Hadeeth - Tim Humble - YouTube
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All I want to say, Muslim scholars (infamously known as Mullas) didn't educate people against the filth thrown by likes of Rushdie. They just believe in destruction, as is the resort for those who loose arguments.
Not realising you can't gag/silence everyone and those who are neutral (or have half a brain) will question you more if you behave this way.. ("Why can't Muslims handle questions or answer criticism?", "Does that mean it's true?")
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Ahmed Deedat has some good books and lectures written on the Rushdie issue. You can not put the blame completely on Muslims either...Rushdie didn't exactly write a work of debate or discourse on Islam, it was fiction mocking at the prophet (pbuh). It was meant to be insulting to muslims.
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Yes, I remember watching an interesting lecture of Deedat on YouTube about this issue. Just searched for it and I’m not sure which one I watched, it has been a long time. So here is everything then:
How Rushdie fooled the west
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR7cOR3Z9TU
(I think this is the one I watched)
Satanic Verses Q&A
Should Rushdie die?
Deedat on Rushdie
Re: Interesting Extracts from the Book - I'm Malala
Ahmed Deedat has some good books and lectures written on the Rushdie issue. You can not put the blame completely on Muslims either...Rushdie didn't exactly write a work of debate or discourse on Islam, it was fiction mocking at the prophet (pbuh). It was meant to be insulting to muslims.
I agree and I have more respect for scholars like Deedat, Prof Rafeeq Zakariya, who tried to educate Muslims against the filth written by Rushdie. Even yesterday, I read a lecture (given by Dr Ghulam Murtaza Malik whose daughter was also subject to blasphemy charges) in respect of marriages of the Prophet, criticism made of orientalists on such marriages, background and after effects of these marriages in a comprehensive way. It was hardly on 15 pages and it took me half an hour to go through it, but I believe this half hour is worth if we Muslim educate ourselves on this matter which has been subject to criticism by non-Muslims and haters of Islam so frequently.
