Why we are after all sects of islam and other religions?
why can not we believe live and let other live.?
Why can not we believe GOD is the ultimate judge?
Why can not we believe with inner core of our hearts that none of us- who so ever criticises :
ahmadis, christians, JEWS, Darouzi, Huri, Shias, iraqis, agha khanis, bohries, barailwis, wahabies , hanafees ,Labnanies etc etc not being on correct path is not at all KHUDA , NO ONE CAN BE ON JUDGEMENT SEAT OF GOD.
Let every one believe in GOD the want to believe. Let them be free for their methods or religious REWAJ and believes. AM I WRONG.?
**IF we all think we are not GOD, we are not judge, **
“GAL HE MUK GAEY SEE”
There would be peace in this beautiful world then.
well the only answer i can come up for your questions si that if there was to be peace and harmony and a same belief of religiona and God then i think there wouldnt be any reason of this world then. Whats the point of creating us and thi world. Its all started when shaytaan didn't do wat he was asked to do and now the kind a life u see is all due to him ..b/c he challenged Allah (s.w.t) that he would corrupt HIS people.
So, my fren if we were all to be the same ...this place would be heaven, which it can't be b/c our heaven and jannat is beyond that :)
now the last thing u said that why wouldnt we just let everyone believe on what they belive...it is possible and it should be that way but keep in mind that as a muslim u r obliged to spread the word of Allah, Quran and His Rasool. U have to give it a try once and more with the person of some other belief. Islam is a religion that gives solution and answer to every problem and question, so there shouldnt be any doubt of approachin to some other faith person and talkin to him/her about Islam. Once u have done this part of ur job then leave it upto Allah (sw.t) to bring that person on the right path or faith!
I hope i answered ur question !
everyone has a right to his own belief, but everyone also does have the right to know what the Truth is, and it is obligatory for all muslims to pass on the True Message of Allah to everyone....
and if someone does not even wish to dare to express his religion as true, i dont think he/she wud go very far in fulfilling the obligation....
How can you be so sure that the Prophet wouldn’t have allowed them into the masjid? I don’t know much about the other sects, but Shia started out as nothing more than a political difference. There are still shias out there who see this as nothing more than a political difference and their methods of praying, their beliefs are not that different from Sunnis. And, even if they are different, how can you be so sure they are against Islam?
There are a million different issues, even within Sunni Islam, that have no concrete answers. These controversial issues range from hijab to music to oral sex to hadiths. And, no matter how much we argue amongst each other, we don’t really know the concrete answer and I doubt we’ll know until the end of time when God himself tells us. Until then, I think we should all hope that we’re doing the right things with good intentions and respect those who do things a bit differently.
Hmmmn. That's no true in Florida then. In fact, I know of at least three masjid's down here with Sunni Imams that have no problem with music. Yet, according to you, music is haraam. How would you explain that? ? ?
Originally Posted by nikaabwaali
agreed evryone has a right to there own belief and should be respected
Even in the old times the Holy Phrophet PBUH let others come and pray in the mosque
In his time there weren't any ahmedis, shias, agha khanis
Your reply indicated that you believed that the Prophet PBUH would not have let others (shias, agha khanis, etc) come into his masjid to pray. You're right, Shias came after the prophet so we will never know if he would have or not. That's all I meant by that.
Simple, Ask them if they are of Isnad, and if they have Ijaza. I know PLENTY Imams of masjids that have very crooked views. They admit they do not have isnad of the Prophet pbuh. Scholars do have it. Majority of them prohibit Music.
The main imams in Saudi disapprove of it. You must know which SCHOLAR you refer to. ANd you have to know if he is reliable or not.
Imams are Imams..they aren’t necessarily scholars.
btw. Isnad = Lineage to the Prophet in tradition of knowledge.
Ijaza = permission from a greater Ullema.
Shias, Agha Khanis, Ahmedis, etc all came after. You can debate Sunnis came after too, but thats a weak debate because Shias themselves can concur their political movement occured at the time of the Caliphate decision.
And Ahmedis believe in a prophet today…
And my post had nothing to do with whether he let “them” pray in his mosque.
The jews had access to the masjid. So I don’t know what you meant.
Simple, Ask them if they are of Isnad, and if they have Ijaza. I know PLENTY Imams of masjids that have very crooked views. They admit they do not have isnad of the Prophet pbuh. Scholars do have it. *Majority of them prohibit Music. *
Majority but not all. There have been many a time that majority has been wrong in history.
In any case, I think this discussion is going to lead to how accurate hadiths are etc. and I think that issue has been beaten to death on gupshup and it's another thread inandofitself. . .
But, getting back to the topic at hand, I'd like to say that this: "IF we all think we are not GOD, we are not judge" is a good way to live.
In the Quran, God says: [3:7] He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord."
So yes, while most of the Quran is clear, there are those allegorical verses that God says only He knows what they mean. So on these verses, neither you nor I nor any scholar can say with absolute certainty what God intends except God Himself.
The problem is that though we all know that prophet Mohammed never preached Islam to anyone with sword. So much so that his closest friend--the one who was with him side by side all the time and the one who had made trenches with him in the war of KHANTAQ was not muslim till that date of digging the trenches with prophet Mohammed-- He Was Salmane Farssi.
He accepted Islam very very late and even for all those days he was non muslim was very close friend of prophet Mohammed.
Quran Kalame Elahe--indicates that GOD SAYS jIS KOU CHAHTA HOUN HEDAYAT DAYTA HOUN JIS KOU CHAHTA HOUN HEDAYAT NAHE DAYTA.
BANDA MOUHTAJ HAI UOS KEY MERZI KA AAGAY.
So RANN DA RANN DA who so ever wants to be shia, who so ever wants to be wahabi, and who so ever wants to be ahmadis etc etc
