My wife agrees to the fact that all the people in her family and in my huge family, who used to do "Parda" in their young age developed relatively very less diseases / health problems and still look very young even above the age of 55, with noor on their fresh faces.
Fresh faces and the Noor you are talking bout depends on how good and pure a persons inner thoughts are NOT how many idiots they get stared from.
The good thing now is the digital cameras so now people do not have to get the pics develpoed from photographers.
Right brother, I think we should also stop requesting professional video cameramen for their services in marriages. It is amazing that some people don't consider them "Stranger humans" and start dancing infront of them without caring about......
Fresh faces and the Noor you are talking bout depends on how good and pure a persons inner thoughts are NOT how many idiots they get stared from.
You cannot stop losers from being losers.
Take the losers of Gupshup as example.
True sister. I understand that inner purity is more important. Also if we take care of our outer appearance, it would help us in not becoming a source of an illiterate person's satisfaction of impure desires. After all people do get affected by what they are shown. Not all men would like to get hit by a lamp post while trying to avoid looking up while walking on a road. But they should try to avoid as much as possible.
I personally don't care about the harms or benefits of doing hijab, I do it because its the order given by Allah and His Prophet (SAW).
MashaAllah sister. I wish everyone could develop such a level of "Imaan" by the grace and mercy of Allah (swt). Below ordinary muslims like me do need some worldly incentives to keep them going till they are able to achieve an Imaan so high that they are ready to do everything for Allah (swt) without any worldly benefit of health, luck...etc.
MAy Allah (swt) bless all muslims of present age to develop an Imaan like the Suhabas (r.a) and the Prophets. Ameen
^ There is a saying in Pashto which means " Don't put your hands in coal and they won't get black "
Such incidents are actually results of the wrong steps which were taken earlier.
With no offense to women, but I think I should mention this here as I also have mentioned this problem to my mother, sister and also to my wife regarding incident 1. Why do some woman have to keep a very low neck and then cover it with dupatta only to keep correcting dupatta again and again very conciously in all public places. IT sounds similar to a boy who is walking around wearing a pant with opened zip and trying to cover it with his sweater. WHY on earth can't he just close the zip and make things easier for himself.
Though I do understand that at times it is the mistake of the tailer, may be tailers have made such mistakes very frequently.
I think the entire point is lost somewhere in low necklines, tailors, mistakes of tailors, men staring, damaging skin hair and god knows what, pashto proverbs, etc etc etc.
Once I was in a mall going up on escalators. It was summer. A girl on the upper floor passing close to glass wall of escalator.
She was wearing a skirt no more the n 8 or 10 inches long, with NO undergarments. It wasn't pretty.
I don't know how you categorize that incident, but wouldn't that be nice if girls try to dress appropriately.
Kindly forgive me if I sound offensive to anyone. I speak to my sister in the same manner, and I don't mind positive criticism which is directed towards me with "logical reasoning".
Coming back to the point of this thread. Well, it is very easy for anyone to pick up incomplete statements / words from each paragraph / post of any thread and then make a person feel that s/he has not made any point, without considering the context of his / her reply and the relation of any example to any particular reply.
Let me summerize it. The point of this thread was that due to ignorance / innocence of "some" women, they are not able to avoid becoming a victom of satanic ways which rise in the minds of men with immoral intentions. At times one doesn't understand the intentions behind a person's ways which easily give a chance to others to immorally use them.
*For Example. *
Why does a teacher has to wear a very short tight shirt everytime she comes in the class and then in the middle of the lecture again and again pulling her shirt down to cover the uncovered areas and distract student's attention. Are loose and long shirts very expensive ?!
You are very sensitive my brother. I didn't mean to find fault with you post.
I still Think in your post first person was a complete A$$.
Second I am not too sure.
Thread is very very thought provoking.
I know tons of such incidents where guys share visuals or secrets about their GFs ,with their buddies.
It make me sick in the stomach. I know people carry pictures of body parts in cell phones.
What make me sick about it is: In pakistan few years ago 2 or more girls commit suicide after those kinds of pictures leaked out. (intentional or unintentionally).
I wish the guys who do that burn in hell for ever. I also hope girls smarten up a little not let that happen to them at first place.
Brother knockout_artist. My post was not at all directed towards you. I was just clarifying the point of this thread to people who didn't understand the point of this thread.
I am really sorry if you felt that my post was directed towards you. You have a right to share your views and I respect your perspective because I feel that you are sincere and honest in your positive criticizm towards general people who make mistakes in dressing or dealing with such matters.
Thanks for the kind clarification of your intentions :)
yeah I guess I can't put it so well. But I guess I am trying to say is
girls shouldn't trust any one with some certain stuff. I mean any one, no matter how much they think they love that person.
I think the entire point is lost somewhere in low necklines, tailors, mistakes of tailors, men staring, damaging skin hair and god knows what, pashto proverbs, etc etc etc.
This thread was going well, til the "mens views damage womens skin and hair."!!!!
This thread was going well, til the "mens views damage womens skin (and hair)."!!!!
The reason why I was double minded before sharing this concept was that I knew a lot of people would find it hard to digest. It was a research of a russion team on the effects of the waves emitting from a person's eyes due to a gaze which involves emotions. If I am not wrong they linked it with "Nazar lagna" in Islamic perspective.
Anyways, the reason why I usually don't post often within a thread of this section is that I end up hurting feelings of people, though my intentions are only to sincerely share what I have learned through different sources.
I would be inshaAllah careful in future. May Allah (swt) forgive me if I said anything wrong. Kindly forgive me if anyone got hurt by my words.
Very true, but sickos like that can undress a lady in burqa with naked eyes....
exactly!!! I have noticed when i go to pakistan no matter how much u cover up sum men will always find sumthing to look at, even at woman wearing burqay, so woman cannot be blamed if sum men are intent on being ouright pervs
As for the 1st incident, I've heard something similar for wedding videos. Some video guys one normally hires, sell the dance parts from wedding videos plus candid shots of ladies ...you know what i mean..
i also read about videos being made in beauty parlors.
ps. i personally believe rather than calling the world sick, we should also see where are we wrong.
I agree that wmen also need to take control of themselves to make sure certain things dont happen. But at what point? Men also need to take responsibility. Funny how everyone likes to ignore that.
The example KA gave, about a girl wearing a short skirt with no underwaer....its easy for someone to wonder what the hell shes thinking.. But then when a womans duputta slips, does that give the fotographer the right to zoom in on her pictures and pass them to his friends? A girl is dating a guy, but does that give him the right to "share" her with his friends?
this discussion has happened mnay times on GS and i can bet you thousands of women whov'e posted here have said the same thing...that even if u wear full burka/niqab in Pakistan, men will undress u with their eyes, no matter how much u cover up.
I agree that women have a responsibility to protect themselves but that doesn't give a man a right to videotape her or pass her around as if shes a toy. Two wrongs don't make a right, just b/c a woman is doing the "wrong" thing (wearing a revealing dress, dating, whatever), doesnt give him a pass to do whatever. So wat can the solution bE? do women stop dancing at weddings? Stop going to salons so noone makes videos? stop living?
My wife agrees to the fact that all the people in her family and in my huge family, who used to do "Parda" in their young age developed relatively very less diseases / health problems and still look very young even above the age of 55, with noor on their fresh faces.
:biggthumbYes Alhamdulillah i also agree with your wife ,and why should i not?..In following the commandments of Allah swt and the ways of Rasoolullah saw..there is 100%success in this world and in akhirah , there is 100% failure in following any other way be it in this world or akhirah.
First of all on the girl in the thressome being the guys sister...i notice no-one here has blamed the girlfriend or even the sister...its just this peverted guy who wants a threesome...the girls are both equally at fault so it doesnt relate to the topic which was brought up...
Also im sick of these hijab arguments...guys will stare whatever...i know a guy who loves girls in hijab and goes out with them aswell...he likes the appeal of being able to unveil them...people stare at what they like...no harm in that at all...what is wrong is what you brought up which was a guy distributing a photograph...if your wearing thin clothes and you suddenly get sprayed with water or something and it ends up being see through a natural reaction will be for a man to take a glance...no biggie...a looks a look...
