A confederation of Pakistan & India, would make it a Superpower.
Two countries, with open borders, combined armies. With no money being wasted fighting each other, all that money could be spent on uplifting the poor.
Do you think something like this is desireable ?
Or let SAARC one day open the borders in S E Asia - like Europe.
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IndoPak “confederation” lol!!! 
What have you been smoking??!
Why not a SinoIndian confederation where Hindi-Chini will live like bhai, bhai??!?
The reality is that India and Pakistan are two separate countries…I repeat, “united” India was forcibly united by monotheists: Muslims for 1,000 years or Christians for 200 years. The rest is all nonsensical.
From diet (note, Indian Court upheld ban of cow slaughter in Gujarat just a week ago!!), to political allegiances, to political outlook, to social and institutional structures, India and Pakistan are polar opposites.
And please none of that “there are 100 million Muslims living in India” argument. Indian Muslims from UP to Kerala are very different from Pakistani, Afghani, Iranian, Arab or Indonesian Muslims! The only Muslim majority territory “controlled” by India and it is where people die everyday at the hands of the secular democracy’s army, women raped, and 700,000 soldiers for over a decade!
Leave Pakistan alone - try to conjure up a Bangladesh-India or Sri Lanka -India confederation and you will also get a befitting reply from Sri Lankans and Bangladeshis.
Don’t you get it - no one except Indians are “impressed” by India. No one except Indians want to be Indians!!! And judging from the number of Indians who flee Inida everyday (note: Indian diaspora around the globe) looks like many Indians also don’t want to be Indians!
If you are really concerned about Pakistan, then thanks, but no thanks…there are other ways Pakistan can zoom ahead besides becoming a toothless colony living in the shadow of Hindustan!
Pakistan fought tooth and nail to win its liberation. It won’t forget what happened to pro-Pakistan men, women and children when they exercised their right of choice in British India.
Thread itself illogical and it exposes your hegemonic sentiments. Also Pakistanis here have seen your anti-Pak hate posts on this forum. So why change colours like this in the guise of “economics”???
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Absolutely agree!
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why pakistan even want to be memeber of southasia should join some other
org.
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Tangyanika & Zanzibar joined to form Tanzania.
Malaysia is a group of rulers who have combined together. At one stage even Singapore joined them.
Al F - you have mentioned that you are not a Pakistan.You cannot understand-Indians & Pakistanis have a special Hate Love relationship.
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Great words! Jinnah presented the idea back in 1921, Gandhi said the same back in 1923, and Nehru made similar speech back in 1946.
It will be truly fantastic if Bharat and Pakistan join hands and work together for the betterment of their people.
However the devil is in the details. We the people from subcontinent are the brainiest people in the world (some more than the others but overall pretty darn good). Still we haven’t been able to figure out an amicable approach of governing the people of the region.
When it comes to our ideals, none of us is willing to be tolerant. Gandhi the non-violent peacemaker threatened to break the teeth (See Cripps records), Jinnah used direct action, Patel the home minister allowed murder of innocent Dehli-ites, and Nehru brought the wrath of socialism.
Malhot you probably are familiar with your pesky leader Lallu Parsad. He won’t let Bihar get out of its trashy state. With the help of his wife Rubri this guy is sucking the blood of Bihar. You ought to do something about your states like Bihar otherwise there may not be any home of the proposed confederation. In fact rich states like Andhra or rich cities like Bangalore may opt to leave Bharat.
Anyway your love for Pakistan and Pakistanis is really appreciated. You truly want to improve our economic situation and confederation is one of many ways to achieve your noble objectives.
Best regards
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Why not.. If India mends its fences we should consider it... So long as it doesnt interfere with our own intrests...
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Main problem is religion and THANK GOD FOR THAT!!!
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This is by far the most important aspect.
**Throughout history monotheists and polytheists have NEVER been able to live as equals anywhere in the world - in India we have 88% Hindus. **
**Read the history of Europe where the Roman Christians slaughtered the barbarian tribes and also any other people who were not Christian. Malhot talks about EU but forgets that 80% of EU (in fact more) is Christian! **
**The point is that the only way for a confederation is: BY FORCE. **
**This is empirical evidence that has thousands of years of history behind it. **
Antiobl - I hope you were being sarcastic - read some of Malhot’s posts about Pakistan in other threads and you will realize what he is all about.
**Malhot: I don’t need to be Pakistani to appreciate the brave struggle the people of Pakistan put up to liberate themselves from the clutches of an alien culture/people who wanted to destroy them and then gloat about “1000 year revenge” like your elected Prime Minister did in 1971! **
Just like I have not seen the devil, I know he exists and I am able to recongnize the effects of the devil’s seduction on many humans on earth!
**Why do you think Pakistan is part of the OIC?, why do you think Arab nations supported the liberation of Pakistan? (read Jinnah’s logs), why do you think Port Qasim in Karachi is named after a Saudi from Taif??? **
**Pakistan does not stand for a culture or territory or political manoevering for economic gains!!!, …Pakistan stands for a brave struggle against scary odds to ensure that those who want to destroy you are kept under check!. **
**Pakistan and what it stands for is taught in every Arabic school and the works of people like Iqbal are taught in Egyptian and Sudanese universities and who knows how many other places where students admire the brave stand taken by Muslims when the enemy was approaching all guns blazing!. **
I don’t expect an Indian like you to understand what Pakistan stands for…you probably thought that the Muslims fighting for Pakistan were passive and just happened to get a homeland because of the “European” conspircay and now in your mind, you want to get back at the world and colonial powers using a “confederation”!!! Everyone knows why India wants a confederation with Pakistan…to engage in its hegemonic designs, to get a bunch a 140 million beautiful, brave, talented people who are able to keep an enemy 10 times in number firmly at bay. The only thing that has worked for India is the surprisingly passive attitude of Pakistanis in keeping the cancer of an alien culture at bay. But soon that will change.
Rvikz: good to see that you have stopped demanding things from Pakistan and are back to critcizing it openly instead of expecting things from it! Do you use a Hindu name like Dileep Kumar in your daily life or do you have a Muslim name IF you are in fact a Muslim!
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I don’t know why people like to go from extremem to extreme (either we are an arab nation with no indian roots or we have people like malhot coming along with this soft “atoot aang” concept of nullifying partition).
Trade, tourism, sports aside, but you just cannot join together especially now!
Do you think bangladesh would want to come “join” such India (I doubt that bangladesh, even with all the brotherhood and everything if it happens, will ever join Pakistan LET ALONE INDIA!!!).
Give it a rest, “people”! 
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Dear Mr. Faris, the idea of subcontinent federation is not bad at all. I am not sure about other regions, but subcontinent is different.
Subcontinent has been ruled for centuries by small minorities including Brahmins, Mogals, Afghans, and then British. Remember all these groups have been able to rule subcontinent because this region always appreciated new cultures and languages. Even now the strong desire of a federation by our Bharati friends is simply a recognition that Pakistan is worth a lot more than its size.
The people of Pakistan can certainly rule the rest of the subcontinent not with weapons, or Mullahtic terrorism, but with their sufi roots. Sufis like Data Gunj Bakhsh, Sai Baba, Khwaja sahib of Ajmer sharif all provided spiritual and worldly guidance to the non-Muslims. In return all these non-Muslims adored these noble personalities.
The same mysticism and the resulting adoration can drive the will of modern day Bharatis to live and prosper peacefully side-by-side with Muslims.
Best regards
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Unworkable for the forseeable future. Too much poverty and corruption in both countries to be superpower material, either working together or apart.
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Good observation too much dead weight to be a superpower
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That was different time anyone who occupied Dehli and its outskirts was hailed as the sultan but very few unified all of India under one banner without the use of brute force.
I agree with you regarding the roles of sufis in spreading the faith in India but in the 21st centuary their biggest opponents will be the “puritan” muslims to say nothing of the RSS.
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I don't the presentday subcontinent was ever ruled by one person (there was always a north-south divide until british time).
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open borders with some controls can be possible, but I cant see a combined army, you cant go back, but if all the countries agree to take this futher, a free trade area can be possible for SAARC or with india but a single or akhand bharat will not happen.
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Its not going to work. Who wants it. Only India?. India wants peace not Pakistan. They cannot sustain their existance without India. They will loose their identity.
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Haha buddy you realy make good joke today, you make my day haha thanks thanks,
just a qustion VINESHVK if you don,t mind, what are you smoking these days?:bash:
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Love hate relationship between Maulanas and Sufis is nothing new. Here is few verses from a Punjabi sufi’s poem.
Mullah! you just go through motions with religious books
without ever getting to the true meaning
As it is, O Mullah! you are like a donkey (jackass)
carrying around a load of books
Not just Punjbabi, even the sufi literature in Farsi (Pursian) is filled with anti-Mullah verses.
Moria and Kushans governments were not limited to Delhi only. Small families from their time onwards have ruled Indian subcontinent until very recent times.
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janam samjha karo.. 
Pakistan was born out of India because of the need to find a new muslim homeland. There is enought contradiction in side the state to cause it to split. (read 1971). In order to be united and sustain itself it needs to create a demon which unfortunately happen to be India. Now if pakistan and India join together to form a confideration pakistan will defeat its all purpose for which it has came into existance.