Indopak or SAARC - with open borders

[antiobl]

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@vineshvk

janam samjha karo.. : p
Pakistan was born out of India because of the need to find a new muslim homeland. There is enought contradiction in side the state to cause it to split. (read 1971). In order to be united and sustain itself it needs to create a demon which unfortunately happen to be India. Now if pakistan and India join together to form a confideration pakistan will defeat its all purpose for which it has came into existance.

Bring some fresh material man!

This stuff has been said and rejected for the last 60 years. We may have to blame the “rote learning” style in the subcontinent. Every young puppy starts repeating the argument just like a parrot. 60 years have gone by and we are still stuck in the same stuff about our made up histories.

[janam]

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@vineshvk

janam samjha karo..
Pakistan was born out of India because of the need to find a new muslim homeland. There is enought contradiction in side the state to cause it to split. (read 1971). In order to be united and sustain itself it needs to create a demon which unfortunately happen to be India.** Now if pakistan and India join together to form a confideration pakistan will defeat its all purpose for which it has came into existance**.

lol you are funny man why should pakistan want to join confideration at the first place and woh bhi india kay saath, haha yea munh aur malika masoor ki daal,
abhey chal side pay ho.

[mAd_ScIeNtIsT]

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@vineshvk

Its not going to work. Who wants it. Only India?. India wants peace not Pakistan. They cannot sustain their existance without India. They will loose their identity.

If Pakistan is the one that is preventing peace, why is India the country that rejects outside mediation? Pakistan has always been open to anyone neutral party’s help, such as the UN, in settling the issue, but India is the one which refuses to allow the kind of third-party mediation that has settled countless other disputes.

[rvikz]

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@mAd_ScIeNtIsT

If Pakistan is the one that is preventing peace, why is India the country that rejects outside mediation? Pakistan has always been open to anyone neutral party’s help, such as the UN, in settling the issue, but India is the one which refuses to allow the kind of third-party mediation that has settled countless other disputes.

did third party solve palestinian problem ?

[mAd_ScIeNtIsT]

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@rvikz

did third party solve palestinian problem ?

Third party mediation got Israel to withdraw from Sinai. Third party mediation got Israel to recognise the PLO as the PA.

Third party mediation has produced some results towards solving the problems of the Palestinian problem.

On the other hand, in the Indian subcontinent India has no interest in peace and is therefore stubbornly refusing third party mediation, instead prolonging the conflict through insistence on bilateral talks only despite the proven track record of third party mediation.

[rvikz]

Re: Indopak or SAARC - with open borders

@mAd_ScIeNtIsT

Third party mediation got Israel to withdraw from Sinai. Third party mediation got Israel to recognise the PLO as the PA.

Third party mediation has produced some results towards solving the problems of the Palestinian problem.

On the other hand, in the Indian subcontinent India has no interest in peace and is therefore stubbornly refusing third party mediation, instead prolonging the conflict through insistence on bilateral talks only despite the proven track record of third party mediation.

finally both have to solve thier problem not some third party .

[antiobl]

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@rvikz

finally both have to solve thier problem not some third party .

Well that is true at the final stages of the conflict resolution in this case. There is no doubt Pakistan and Bharat have to solve and respect mutual issues.

However Maddies points are valid as well. If two parties have not been able to resolve some issues for 60 odd years, then we ought to have third party.

BTW Bharat is not totally against the third party idea. Bharat agreed to Ruskie mediation in post 65 war. UN was involved as third party in water treaty as well. So third party can certainly help to chart out a general course and then the two cousins can get to specifics.

I am hopeful about the future though. Now that US wields tremendous clout in Bharati politics, we may have Uncle Sam as the mediator. Recent actions like pulling forces back from the border clearly depicted the force behind Uncle Sam’s muscles.

Peace on Earth.

Best regards.

[parissenoor]

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@antiobl

Peace on Earth.

:biggthumb

[mo293]

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As long as you make me your PM, President, Khilafa I am all for it.

[Ahsan911]

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@mo293

As long as you make me your PM, President, Khilafa I am all for it.

And your from?

Ahsan F

[Prince_of_Persia]

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I am glad Pakistan is separate from India.

Indians should stop acting like the big brother and let go of this dream of Akhand Bharat because it will never come true.

India is not a nation and it never will be, in fact the name India/Hind/Hindi was given to you by Muslims and the British. Bharat is a joke.

As much as secularists may disagree a Muslim cannot live amongst non-Muslims and keep them happy yet not compromise any tenant of Islam, if it’s Christians or Jews it makes a bit easier but Muslims and Pagans are two complete opposites, good political relations and peace are one thing but unity, never, sacred Muslim blood was shed for Pakistan and it isn’t going to go to waste.

[Blitzkrieg]

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@parissenoor

:biggthumb

Kein Frieden** ! :o **

[rvikz]

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@Prince of Persia

I am glad Pakistan is separate from India.

Indians should stop acting like the big brother and let go of this dream of Akhand Bharat because it will never come true.

India is not a nation and it never will be, in fact the name India/Hind/Hindi was given to you by Muslims and the British. Bharat is a joke.

As much as secularists may disagree a Muslim cannot live amongst non-Muslims and keep them happy yet not compromise any tenant of Islam, if it’s Christians or Jews it makes a bit easier but Muslims and Pagans are two complete opposites, good political relations and peace are one thing but unity, never, sacred Muslim blood was shed for Pakistan and it isn’t going to go to waste.

do you know the difference between both punjabs in terms of education,agricluture and soicial justice ? why indian punjab want to join west
punjab?

[BalleBalle]

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@mAd_ScIeNtIsT

If Pakistan is the one that is preventing peace, why is India the country that rejects outside mediation? Pakistan has always been open to anyone neutral party’s help, such as the UN, in settling the issue, but India is the one which refuses to allow the kind of third-party mediation that has settled countless other disputes.

If Baluchistan wants to split from Pakistan, would you invite UN help ?

[sTaLkEr]

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^^ Talk about that when Indians award independence to Assam, Manipur, Kashmir, Bodoland etc etc

[BalleBalle]

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@sTaLkEr

^^ Talk about that when Indians award independence to Assam, Manipur, Kashmir, Bodoland etc etc

I think Indian stance has been very clear - we will not let any part of India separate.Once Pakistan understands that, maybe we can resolve the stalemate & move forward with cordial relations.Otherwise you will keep making mistakes like you did in 1999 & get your a$$ kicked

[Prince_Abbas]

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@BalleBalle

we will not let any part of India separate.

But Kashmir is not a part of Bharat.

[BalleBalle]

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@Prince Abbas

But Kashmir is not a part of Bharat.

Sure, thats what they teach you in the madrassas…you can cry yourself hoarse about it, send as many soldiers (freedom fighters ) but that aint gonna change a thing.

Kashmir is & will remain an integral part of India.

[Prince_Abbas]

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haha. What madressah, stupid? Is this what is preached on your Jee TV?

Kashmir IS a disputed territory. If not then what is Bharat-mata discussing in those dialogs with Pakistan? Bhindi ka bhaao? :D

[BalleBalle]

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@Prince Abbas

If not then what is Bharat-mata discussing in those dialogs with Pakistan? Bhindi ka bhaao?

Obviously vegetable sellers like you are not educated enough to understand what Indo-Pak dialog is all about, all you care about is bhindi ka bhaav.

India has alway maintained that Pak stop cross border terrorism, only then can dialog take place.

But then again, you would know this only if you took a break from selling vegetables.